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wityblack

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Do they? I think you're giving the general audience too much credit.

If you showed members of the general audience pictures of Bespin and ask them if it was Jupiter most would say yes. And vice-verse if you showed a picture of Jupiter and ask if it was a planet in Star Wars most would also probably say yes but couldn't name it.

Never discount the stupidity of the general audience.
Put some AT-ATs on Hoth and you got a super recognizable place. The Death Star is recognizable too. I hope we go to Yavin one of these days.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Put some AT-ATs on Hoth and you got a super recognizable place. The Death Star is recognizable too. I hope we go to Yavin one of these days.
I think you’re still giving too much credit to the general public and confusing them with casual fans.

The places you’ve mentioned are ones fans know and care about. The general public doesn’t know these places much less cares about them outside the greater context of “hey that looks like a place from Star Wars”.

Now to your point many will know the Death Star, so that is recognizable. But since the DS is gone in the era the updates will be set in I doubt we’ll see it. Same with Yavin, I doubt we’ll see it as it was evacuated by that time. Remember the updates are set during the Mando series, 5 years after the end of Return of the Jedi.
 

SaltyP

Member
I think you’re still giving too much credit to the general public and confusing them with casual fans.

The places you’ve mentioned are ones fans know and care about. The general public doesn’t know these places much less cares about them outside the greater context of “hey that looks like a place from Star Wars”.

Now to your point many will know the Death Star, so that is recognizable. But since the DS is gone in the era the updates will be set in I doubt we’ll see it. Same with Yavin, I doubt we’ll see it as it was evacuated by that time. Remember the updates are set during the Mando series, 5 years after the end of Return of the Jedi.
I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to recognise famous locations from some of the most famous and watched movies of all time? It's nothing to do with timelines or lore, when people go to Star Wars land they hope to see things they recognise from Star Wars. With this logic you could slap Peter Pan or Belle and the Beast in a random location with no connections to those movies and everyone would be perfectly happy.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to recognise famous locations from some of the most famous and watched movies of all time? It's nothing to do with timelines or lore, when people go to Star Wars land they hope to see things they recognise from Star Wars. With this logic you could slap Peter Pan or Belle and the Beast in a random location with no connections to those movies and everyone would be perfectly happy.
And yet when people go to the Parks they don’t expect to go to London or France to see either of those characters. So your example here doesn’t work.

As I mentioned there is specific locations that most people will know such as the Death Star. But once you start getting away from the specific location and start talking about planets most won’t know what you’re talking about or be able to tell the difference. This was the point of this whole discussion, not about specific locations within the universe.
 

wityblack

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And yet when people go to the Parks they don’t expect to go to London or France to see either of those characters. So your example here doesn’t work.

As I mentioned there is specific locations that most people will know such as the Death Star. But once you start getting away from the specific location and start talking about planets most won’t know what you’re talking about or be able to tell the difference. This was the point of this whole discussion, not about specific locations within the universe.
If the Peter Pan ride had you fly over Toledo before you go to Neverland I'm pretty sure people would be confused lol
 

SaltyP

Member
And yet when people go to the Parks they don’t expect to go to London or France to see either of those characters. So your example here doesn’t work.

As I mentioned there is specific locations that most people will know such as the Death Star. But once you start getting away from the specific location and start talking about planets most won’t know what you’re talking about or be able to tell the difference. This was the point of this whole discussion, not about specific locations within the universe.
They absolutely do - hence why we see London and France on those rides?? General park goers are not all brain dead zombies that randomly stumbled into Disneyland, they are aware of the things they are going to go see, otherwise why would they be there in the first place.

No one brought up timelines or lore of specific planets, but there is a stark difference between hanging out on a grey wasteland planet like Corellia from a flop movie, and visiting bright and vibrant planets that are heavily featured in the biggest movies of all time.

Why is the Death Star acceptable to you but not Tatooine? They are from the same movie!
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
If the Peter Pan ride had you fly over Toledo before you go to Neverland I'm pretty sure people would be confused lol

They absolutely do - hence why we see London and France on those rides?? General park goers are not all brain dead zombies that randomly stumbled into Disneyland, they are aware of the things they are going to go see, otherwise why would they be there in the first place.

No one brought up timelines or lore of specific planets, but there is a stark difference between hanging out on a grey wasteland planet like Corellia from a flop movie, and visiting bright and vibrant planets that are heavily featured in the biggest movies of all time.

Why is the Death Star acceptable to you but not Tatooine? They are from the same movie!
Again I think you guys are giving the general public non-fans too much credit.

If you showed the sand dunes of Tatooine without any other reference and asked if that was a real place or from the movies most won’t know it’s from the movies, most will probably say it’s the Mojave or Sahara. Same with Endor, if you show just the forest but no other context they won’t know it’s anything other than a forest. Again if you show specific iconic locations like the Death Star most will know it. But if you just show a planet without any other context I will say that 99.9% of the general public won’t know it.

Also timelines and such were brought up because of where the updates take place. You aren’t going to have Mando and Grogu showing up for the trench run when that happened 9 years prior. As @wityblack mentioned Yavin for example and we know the rebels aren’t there by the time Mando happens. So yes timelines do matter and make a difference here.
 

Professortango1

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Yeah, honestly Millennium Falcon has great bones. The location is just lame. Like you get to go onto the Millennium Falcon, and get to go to the cockpit, and get to fly it. It's over-hated.
My biggest issues are:

Same ride experience every time
Really boring and lifeless queue, especially when compared to Star Tours
No bonus abilities/challenges to unlock like in Midway Mania

Randomized missions, some droids in the queue, and some fun combos to unlock would go a long way
 

wityblack

Well-Known Member
My biggest issues are:

Same ride experience every time
Really boring and lifeless queue, especially when compared to Star Tours
No bonus abilities/challenges to unlock like in Midway Mania

Randomized missions, some droids in the queue, and some fun combos to unlock would go a long way
The second half of the queue is incredible though.
 

Tony the Tigger

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Star Wars fans ( = 4,5,6 as a starting point) will recognize Hoth, Dagobah, Bespin, and more.

The “brain dead zombies” will see those places as they see the generic space rock places we see now.

I said that was a mistake from day one, and I’m still correct.

How do I know? I’m a huge Star Wars fan and would rather hang at the Tune-In Lounge.

If I could visit Dagobah the way Uni lets you visit Diagon Alley, I would spend a lot more time there.
 

Disgruntled Walt

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In the Parks
No
Star Wars fans ( = 4,5,6 as a starting point) will recognize Hoth, Dagobah, Bespin, and more.

The “brain dead zombies” will see those places as they see the generic space rock places we see now.

I said that was a mistake from day one, and I’m still correct.

How do I know? I’m a huge Star Wars fan and would rather hang at the Tune-In Lounge.

If I could visit Dagobah the way Uni lets you visit Diagon Alley, I would spend a lot more time there.
Agreed. Making up a new planet was a dumb idea, as was setting the timeline in the sequel trilogy. Should have gone with with the timeless option of the original trilogy.
 

Professortango1

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The second half of the queue is incredible though.

Meh. I love the preshow and then it's quick walk to the chess room where I typically wait for 25 seconds before heading to board.

I don't consider that really a queue since I'm just walking from one check point to another after the preshow. It feels like an extended boarding experience.

I wouldn't mind waiting longer in the Falcon. Having interactive elements to play with and explore.

I do wish they'd reconfigure the merge hallway with LL. Having to walk all the way down those long hallways to have to double back and wait 2 minutes. I typically ride at night, so it's always a walk on and they need a bypass. Or at least more visual interest.
 

SaltyP

Member
Star Wars fans ( = 4,5,6 as a starting point) will recognize Hoth, Dagobah, Bespin, and more.

The “brain dead zombies” will see those places as they see the generic space rock places we see now.

I said that was a mistake from day one, and I’m still correct.

How do I know? I’m a huge Star Wars fan and would rather hang at the Tune-In Lounge.

If I could visit Dagobah the way Uni lets you visit Diagon Alley, I would spend a lot more time there.
Now this I agree with. I have no issue with the ST or Disney Star Wars, I like most of it I'd say. BUT who tf cares about Batuu?!

What makes it even more puzzling is that the stuff they did go through with in the land: Oga's Cantina, The Falcon ride etc, none of it is unique to this random planet. All of it exists on somewhere like Tatooine in a much more iconic and visually distinct form.

Kylo Ren should have been Darth Vader. Instead of some random OC Resistance Spy walking around, it should have been Han and Chewie.

I know it's been spoken about death, but is truly one of the most puzzling choices of the modern Disney era. The money they left on the table is insane.
 

Professortango1

Well-Known Member
Now this I agree with. I have no issue with the ST or Disney Star Wars, I like most of it I'd say. BUT who tf cares about Batuu?!

What makes it even more puzzling is that the stuff they did go through with in the land: Oga's Cantina, The Falcon ride etc, none of it is unique to this random planet. All of it exists on somewhere like Tatooine in a much more iconic and visually distinct form.

Kylo Ren should have been Darth Vader. Instead of some random OC Resistance Spy walking around, it should have been Han and Chewie.

I know it's been spoken about death, but is truly one of the most puzzling choices of the modern Disney era. The money they left on the table is insane.
I mean, Batuu looks like Tatooine with more diverse visuals and foliage.

As for Kyle Ren vs Vader, it's six of one and half a dozen of another. I think Kylo is a better character, but Vader is iconic as well. But having Vader would mean no "heroes" like Han or Luke as they would be way too old to appear alongside Vader. Kylo allows them to use the actors for Finn and Po.

Not sure how moving to OT and having to resort to.unknown side characters in Rise makes it a better experience
 

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