DHS MuppetVision 3-D's Future: Potential Disney Park Venues and Vision Pro Immersive Experience

Sirwalterraleigh

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Even though I’m excited about the new Monsters, Inc. Land & its door roller coaster, I’m still very sad that it had to replace Muppet Courtyard. Plus, Muppet*Vision 3D was the very last project Jim Henson himself was involved before he passed away and the attraction pays a beautiful tribute to the man who helped make Kermit the Frog & the Muppets come to life. But, I’m still glad that The Muppets are not really leaving Hollywood Studios as Dr. Teeth & the Electric Mayhem {along with Kermit the Frog & Miss Piggy} are going to take over Rock n’ Roller Coaster which is going to be interesting and exciting {even though we’re had to say goodbye to Aerosmith on that ride}. Also, since Disney saids that they’re exploring the ways to preserve the Muppet*Vision 3D film & other parts of the experience, I really hope that it will have a new life somewhere in the park {maybe in Sunset Boulevard, replacing the Anaheim Produce area}.
Agreed

I think general perception has turned on the “replacement” strategy.

It’s pretty obvious a bait and switch tactic…and even the public who doesn’t hang around here has begun to notice and grumble
 

Moth

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I mean, at least in Fortnite, as ridiculous as that would be, they would be able to re-create the full queue/preshow/theatre experience with the animatronics and effects, rather than just having the film flat on D+. I still would be shocked if they did end up making it a Fortnite exclusive, but I feel like the experience could actually potentially be more complete than just throwing the movie itself on streaming.
Fortnite Creative (UEFN) is a very sophisticated and in-depth system that'll definitely lend itself well to being a digital recreation of it. It wouldn't be the same as physical, real life AAs and the like, but I think it'd benefit more from trying to recreate those effects digitally versus uploading a MP4 to Disney+.
 

TheMaxRebo

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I mean, at least in Fortnite, as ridiculous as that would be, they would be able to re-create the full queue/preshow/theatre experience with the animatronics and effects, rather than just having the film flat on D+. I still would be shocked if they did end up making it a Fortnite exclusive, but I feel like the experience could actually potentially be more complete than just throwing the movie itself on streaming.

I hope they put it a few places - Fortnite, DisneyPlus, maybe like the POV thing they are doing for Galaxy's Edge, maybe Apply Vision Pro, etc.

I think just D+ would minimize all what made up the experience. I think just Fortnite would be limiting because, and maybe I am just an old fuddy duddy, but feel like a lot of Muppet Fans aren't going to want to deal with Fortnite
 

tanc

Premium Member
It would be a colossal fail if Muppetvision 3D is put on a $5k headset (that was basically DOA to begin with, since AR has just never really taken off) that could never replicate the original experience of the show. The removal of Muppetvision 3D is the final nail in the coffin to MGM studios to me, even though there's Tower of Terror, virtually anything that made MGM "MGM" is gone now.
 

TheMaxRebo

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It would be a colossal fail if Muppetvision 3D is put on a $5k headset (that was basically DOA to begin with) that could never replicate the original experience of the show. The removal of Muppetvision 3D is the final nail in the coffin to MGM studios to me, even though there's Tower of Terror, virtually anything that made MGM "MGM" is gone now.

It hasn't even been named MGM for quite some time now - it is a different park than the original design. Things change

(and I agree if the *only* way to access it is a $5k helmet but if that is one of multiple ways ways then I have no issue with it)
 

Disgruntled Walt

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In the Parks
No
For as tired as some people are of the nostalgic posters, I'm far more tired of those who disdain nostalgia and pass off monumental theme park alterations as "Things change." They could demolish Spaceship Earth, too. Would that just be "things change" too?

In the Muppets' case, this is something that definitely shouldn't be changing. It's Jim Henson's final project. Leave it alone, for heaven's sake. We're not gaining anything from this stupid Monsters show no one asked for. We're just losing a piece of Henson's legacy, and that is appalling to me.
 
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WorldExplorer

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For as tired as some people are of the nostalgic posters, I'm far more tired of those who disdain nostalgia and pass off monumental theme park alterations as "Things change." They could demolish Spaceship Earth, too. Would that just be "things change" too?

Probably?

We've had such blatant reality denying defenses as "kids don't like dinosaurs", "Cars fits perfectly in Frontierland", and "Splash Mountain wasn't popular".

If Spaceship Earth went down, well, no one really liked it anyway and it definitely wasn't iconic at all, and here's the thesis on how the new Tangled rollercoaster is actually a much better fit for the center of the park...

I legitimately think there isn't a single move they could make that won't get defended. And not just in a "well I think it sounds fun" sense (that's fair), full on "this actually makes perfect sense and people shouldn't complain" defense.
 
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Epcot82Guy

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I can get behind the concept of things change when there is a necessity for it. There is so much underutilized space at Studios (and all the parks). Closing a beloved attraction (and one that could easily be sectioned off from the new area) seems unnecessary. That's where this is highly frustrating and seems beyond the traditional "things change" argument.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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It’s also a terrible business move after a considerable investment was made to make this a mini-muppets land. If muppets are popular enough for a rock n rollercoaster attraction, they are also popular enough for a new coaster attached to muppets courtyard.

Plenty of other spaces in the park allow for a monsters inc. coaster including ones that are next to another Pixar property.
 

Cmdr_Crimson

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It’s also a terrible business move after a considerable investment was made to make this a mini-muppets land. If muppets are popular enough for a rock n rollercoaster attraction, they are also popular enough for a new coaster attached to muppets courtyard.

Plenty of other spaces in the park allow for a monsters inc. coaster including ones that are next to another Pixar property.
If that Galaxy Edge place was not there then yes...It's quite a squeeze to add anything else in that area now with Pixar Place and TSL...
 

BrianLo

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Can someone explain to me what elevates MV3D into a permanent fixture beyond every other entertainment experience?

I understand rides being refreshed into permanency, but 35 years strikes me as well after its best before date.

That’s not to say it’s bad, far from it. Nor that it’s top of the list of crusty WDW entertainment. But it’s kind of well overdue for a new film (which could have still been muppets). It seems the broader consensus is that even the film shouldn’t ever be changed.

Is that just because of Jim - or because they actually waited too long to redo it. None of this fanfare occurred out West.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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Can someone explain to me what elevates MV3D into a permanent fixture beyond every other entertainment experience?
You could ask the same thing for Peter Pan, Dumbo, Mr. toad in Cali…..

For one… people still enjoy it and they expect to see it when they visit.

California is a strange comparison because it closed “temporarily” - it never had a permanent close. Philharmagic with a better marquee still doesn’t attract anymore visitors I don’t think. If anything I remember a few more people when I saw muppets but that was a while ago obviously.
 

BrianLo

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You could ask the same thing for Peter Pan, Dumbo, Mr. toad in Cali…..

For one… people still enjoy it and they expect to see it when they visit.

Even those are subject to updates. But like I said those are rides, this is entertainment.

It seems there would still be anger if they recorded a new MV3D film, unless I’m misreading things. It’s more that aspect I don’t understand.

I’d still very much love an animatronic hybrid Muppets show, but it doesn’t need to be MV3D 1991, it only isn’t top of the list for the update because B&TB is trash.
 

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