JohnD
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Who's he? Oh yeah. Some dude at Tiana's party.
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MK Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress
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Charlie The Chatbox Ghost
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I bet you he recorded lines for an AA in the bayou scenes but it was cut due to budget constraints. Covid really squeezed Disney dry with all their parks being closed for a few months and then Disneyland being closed for about a year. All their other businesses bleed money (especially movies since 2020), so if the parks aren’t making much they aren’t making much. If Covid didn’t happen then I’m sure TBA would’ve had a lot more details in the show scenes. The concept art implied the flamingos from the movie would be in the bayou along with lots of other animals.
Tony the Tigger
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Certainly, their movies didn’t bleed money in 2024.
TBA can always be upgraded.
Disstevefan1
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Budgets are very tight for attractions....... Movies, not so much.
Brer Panther
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Somebody else already asked this, but is the one Naveen animatronic in the finale an A100? Seems pretty pointless to use an A100 on him considering he's in the background and doesn't even talk.
Why is Mama Odie a more prominent character in this attraction than one of the film's MAIN CHARACTERS?
I would love to hear just what exactly happened to make them rewrite the plot so many times. First it was "Louis chasing after his trumpet", then it was "Tiana searching for a special spice" and then it became the "find a band" crap we got. I wouldn't be surprised if the otter whose name escapes me at the moment (Timoleon?) was originally supposed to have a larger role, since there's that one piece of concept art showing him with more movement and expressions than the figure we got.
Why is Mama Odie a more prominent character in this attraction than one of the film's MAIN CHARACTERS?
Maybe they should've thought of that before they announced this retheme in the first place (WHILE the pandemic was going on!). Of course we know WHY they announced the retheme, but still...
They're spoonbills, actually. But yeah, I recall that one piece of concept art from 2021 depicted a scene that isn't in either version of the attraction... Tiana and Naveen in a boat, a spoonbill, some turtles peeking out of the water...
Charlie The Chatbox Ghost
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Iger said recently that they're using AI to "assist" in making their movies now (which likely explains the poor quality of the scripts), so with all that money they're saving by laying off their workers, you think we're gonna see it reinvested into the parks?Budgets are very tight for attractions....... Movies, not so much.
Of course not! The board members can't buy more yachts if Disney spends money on improving the parks!
Charlie The Chatbox Ghost
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They could've done the easiest route and just say "we hear the complaints about Splash Mountain, and we have been working on a replacement. We can't announce anything specific at this time, but know we are working on something, and we will announce it when it's ready." Then they could've waited a few years before formally announcing it with more refined concept art. If all the concept art we got reflected the ride, there would be less complaints- we'd never have known Mama Odie's boat was going to go on top of the mountain, or that Naveen was going to play a larger role. Less to be upset about!
Disgruntled Walt
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- In the Parks
- No
This would have been a lie. There weren't any.
Chi84
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The critters were kind of creepy.
There’s always been some complaints/controversy with Splash. It just seemed to be more of a “Don’t think about it too long.” kind of thing.
Charlie The Chatbox Ghost
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Look, I was a fan of Splash Mountain, but I'm not going to pretend there weren't any complaints. Unless we want to pretend that every single person complaining online in the last 20+ years (let alone just in 2020) were a paid actor by Disney, saying "no one ever complained about the ride" is an objectively wrong statement.
Disstevefan1
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Folks are forgetting Splash was erased and replaced by Tiana because DISNEY wanted to do it.
The change had NOTHING to do with the guests or fans.
Like EVERYTHING Disney did or will do (example the cars attraction) is because DISNEY wants to do it.
If there are guests who happen to like a given change is pure coincidence.
The change had NOTHING to do with the guests or fans.
Like EVERYTHING Disney did or will do (example the cars attraction) is because DISNEY wants to do it.
If there are guests who happen to like a given change is pure coincidence.
Charlie The Chatbox Ghost
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I think it's a bit of both. If Disney truly wanted to "erase" Splash they never would've built it to begin with. They only decided to change it because it was no longer profitable to have a ride based on Song of the South open, as it was bad PR. Inversely, they also realized they could sell more fast passes and merchandise with an IP that people actually know of. Two Mr. Blue Birds, one stone.
Ayla
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Regardless if Splash would have stayed the same, it needed major work at the time of its demise.
JMcMahonEsq
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Wait wait wait. I am confused, is Disney a greedy corporation who is out just to make the maximum amount of money, or are they not?
So your saying WDW took down a ride that was operating fine and people were riding. Decided to expend huge dollars in labor, materials, engineering costs just because? They SPENT millions of dollars...on a whim?
It wasn't to make money? And lets face it its only guests and fans that pay money so if they are, its for something they want. So WDW didn't look at any data/studies and say if we do this replacement, it will result in customers wanting things enough to pay/attendance/ect?
Your story is they just WOKE up on a Tuesday (get it....WOKE up, come on its funny and almost Friday) and decided to spend millions of dollars for nothing?
Disstevefan1
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You can drill back on my post and I said this way before the reskin happened -
I never said it was on a whim, Disney had THEIR reasons, I will attempt to guess; number one, social justice, perhaps the old animatronics and systems were getting too expensive to fix and maintain, no spare parts, must have replacement parts custom made etc.
I really think they decided to expend huge dollars in labor, materials, engineering costs, to kill two birds; lower maintenance in the long run (that appears to be NOT working at the moment) and social justice.
My main point of this post is, Disney does what they want to do. Their decision has nothing to do with their guests or fans. If there are guests who happen to like a given change it is pure coincidence.
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JMcMahonEsq
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From a strictly authorization standpoint, of course Disney does what it wants to do. Every business does what it wants to do at the end of the day, guest/fans have no say in an operation of any business.
However to say guest/fans have nothing to do with decisions is just absurd. Disney is looking for Profit. That means decisions are made to increase profits. This can come in the form of direct increase in sales, direct decrease in costs, or increasing attendance/mitigating loss through customer good will.
Out of those 3 methods to achieve the goal, 2 of them are directly related to customers. You need your customers to keep coming and buying tickets to the parks and need them to continue buying things. The only way of increasing profit that isn't directly related to customers is decreasing costs, but even that has to be weighed with the idea of will decreasing cost result in a loss of 1 or 3. And the millions spent on a re-skin of Splash Mountain certainly wasn't a direct cost saving.
Disstevefan1
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Can you please talk to Disney's movie business
OK, ok, "nothing" is an absurd term.
Extreme terms like "nothing" is low hanging fruit for folks who want to argue.
In my opinion, Disney makes decisions mostly for Disney and lesser for guest/fans.
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Jayspency
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- No
Most of what Disney does nowadays is mostly done based on what looks good on paper.