True , attendance went from ok to near non existent.
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Disstevefan1
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I honestly don't think it will be significant. Sincerely.
I know I am in the minority with the world ending and all..
I honestly don't think it will be significant. Sincerely.
I know I am in the minority with the world ending and all..
I don't think it will be significant either.
That was the point of my other posts (that might have gotten too political).
The truth is most people aren't very hardcore political one way or another and, as long as there are significant enough discounts or incentives, they will continue to visit.
I think Disney will offer theme park, resort, or dining plans or discounts to stimulate demand and the overall park crowd level will remain fairly steady.
Just get ready for offerings on a regular basis to be less than regular. The company has to run more lean and efficient if factors downturn in business. If store shelves are not as full as before with inventory it should not even be shocking.
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Disstevefan1
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Frankly, I am looing forward to lower crowds while they last. I never got to experience WDW for the reopen right after COVID closures but before the revenge travel.
I know it wont be as good as that, but it should feel less crowded.
You also have to factor in that most in the UK plan and book their holidays 12-18 months in advance. Especially if doing the Villa experience rather than in bubble. With the election in November many had already booked their holidays. I cant see it having an impact in 2025 or even 2026. If the exchange rate went down possibly, but at moment the £-$ is that we get $1.33 for every £1 put in. That would entice us or keep us from thinking made a right deal.
No UK person will cancel for reason cited in original post. We are still coming
in 2025 August.
No UK person will cancel for reason cited in original post. We are still coming
in 2025 August.That’s hurricane season and Sahara hot , steamy and rainy weather. Bring your ponchos and patience !You also have to factor in that most in the UK plan and book their holidays 12-18 months in advance. Especially if doing the Villa experience rather than in bubble. With the election in November many had already booked their holidays. I cant see it having an impact in 2025 or even 2026. If the exchange rate went down possibly, but at moment the £-$ is that we get $1.33 for every £1 put in. That would entice us or keep us from thinking made a right deal.
No UK person will cancel for reason cited in original post. We are still coming
Vegas Disney Fan
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The majority (roughly 90%) are currently still coming, even if all of the boycotters stick to their boycott (won’t happen) the vast vast vast majority of Canadians aren’t letting this spat affect their lives.Will there still be some that visit, or back down from their initial stance? Of course, but it's not going to be the majority, and don't expect the numbers to rebound to what they once were any time soon-give it at least 3 years, 9 months.
Most people see this for what it is, grandstanding and political maneuvering, and it won’t affect their life or travel plans in any way. Like all boycotts a minority are making a lot of noise but the silent majority are going about life as normal.
We’re taking an Alaska cruise out of Vancouver in a couple months and we’re flying in a day early to explore the city, who wins your election today won’t influence that decision in any way.
Disstevefan1
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Chef Mickey
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Let's be serious - Disney was a sewer long before 3 months ago and already showed signs of crowd issues (and real reports in decreased attendance).I can't speak for residents of other countries, but I can tell you this: as far as Canadian tourists go, there will be no "brief period" or "quickly diminishing boycotts". My fellow Canadians are digging their heels in hard, and for some, not even a change politically will entice them back-they are done vacationing south of the border for good. Will there still be some that visit, or back down from their initial stance? Of course, but it's not going to be the majority, and don't expect the numbers to rebound to what they once were any time soon-give it at least 3 years, 9 months.
Maybe they should look internally. Not everyone supports their politically motivated movies around the world. In fact, many cultures are FAR more conservative than anyone in office today.
The fact remains that WDW has shown problems since the post-Covid world and Disney has been on a downward spiral for 10 years.
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Jrb1979
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I agree that the political climate isn't a big factor. One that many ignore is the exchange rate of the Canadian dollar. As of today the Canadian dollar is worth 72 cents US. That is probably the biggest reason there is many canceling this summer. Put it perspective that Canadian offer of $436 a person for 4 days at the parks for a family of 4 works out to $2400. That's with no flight or hotel.
The other one is Universal and Disney have priced too many people out.
Sir_Cliff
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Perhaps the Canadian case involves a boycott, but international visitors to the US are down from almost everywhere more due to a decreasing desire to visit than an organised boycott. There's no organised boycott in European countries or Australia, just people choosing to vacation elsewhere in some cases because of political reasons in others because they are turned off by reports of heavy-handed border security. Maybe just less positive vibes. In other cases, it could be economic instability.
How long this will last is impossible to know at this point and maybe it will be a blip. I don't think it can be dismissed as just a loud and showy politically-motivated boycott, though. When it comes to WDW and Universal Orlando, I would also gently note that for most people they are not so irresistible that the urge to vacation there will overcome even the vague sense of not being interested in travelling to the US right now.
How long this will last is impossible to know at this point and maybe it will be a blip. I don't think it can be dismissed as just a loud and showy politically-motivated boycott, though. When it comes to WDW and Universal Orlando, I would also gently note that for most people they are not so irresistible that the urge to vacation there will overcome even the vague sense of not being interested in travelling to the US right now.
Vegas Disney Fan
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I think inflation is a major factor also, our hotel in Vancouver was almost $350 for one night, our (cheap with layover) one way flights were $250 each to Vancouver and another $300 each back from Fairbanks, that’s nearly $1500 just in travel expenses, plus the thousands we already paid for the cruise portion, thousands we already paid for excursions… the cost of this 14 day trip to Alaska is approaching double what we paid for our first (14 day) trip to London and Paris (and DLP) in 2016.
We had the same shock last year when we booked our WDW / DCL trip, flights were significantly more expensive than I thought they’d be, hotels were significantly more expensive than I thought they’d be, tickets were significantly more expensive than I thought they’d be, the cruise was slightly more expensive than I thought it would be… it shouldn’t be that surprising that a lot of people are traveling less, or staying closer to home, when every aspect of travel is nearly double what it was less than a decade ago.
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Chef Mickey
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Great point on inflation.
Disney is stupid expensive for a worse product than 15 years ago.
15-20 years ago I thought I was in the track and field team again. At rope drop when the park opened it’s the early bird that gets the work. Running full speed to snag to the 3 fast pass locations to get FP for Toy Story , RnR and Tower of Terror. FP was free back in the day , you just had to earn it !
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Vegas Disney Fan
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We were masters of the FP speed walk, fast enough to get good FPs but slow enough not to get scolded by the CMs enforcing the no running rule.
Funny how something as silly as booking it across a theme park for a FP, and the sense of accomplishment/relief after securing said FP, can be a fond memory that still brings a huge smile to my face a decade later.
I still remember when Toy Story Midway Mania opened up in MGM around 2008 that the fast passes were gone by the early morning. Some bold fellow guests were actually selling their Toy Story FP for $10 each to willing takers. Maybe Disney caught onto this income generating venture!
I was almost exclusively a Disneyland guy during the era of peak Fastpass. I remember the gates at DCA opening and litereally everyone sprinting to the Radiator Springs Racers Fastpass kiosk and then most of the crowd hopping over to Disneyland to snag Space Mountain.
Those were the days.
Laketravis
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Ah yes! And let's not forget the days of the new and improved FP - FP PLUS!! Fond memories indeed 
Vegas Disney Fan
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That was a very painful transition and the moment when constantly being on your phone became a major part of a Disney vacation.Ah yes! And let's not forget the days of the new and improved FP - FP PLUS!! Fond memories indeed
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