News Disney plans to accelerate Parks investment to $60 billion over 10 years

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The poster I originally quoted very clearly claimed they believed the $60 billion was a lie. Obviously priorities could change and plans could be altered, cut back, or expanded. But that doesn’t mean the original announcement was a lie.

Im not sure what point you’re trying to make with your second paragraph. Obviously individual projects could get cut or funding redirected. I was just pointing out (correctly) that they are bound to some spending commitments with certain government agreements.

No…it’s not a “lie”

It just has unlimited ways out.

What mono is saying is correct: “things change” covers everything

We do this thing here where we think that somehow the SEC will protect parks fans
Not on this planet

Again …I think they have to stop screwing around and get serious about parks investment
But it may not be until Bob is drug kicking and screaming from the building with his potted plant

 

[UNCgolf]

Original Country Bears was an E ticket. A literal E ticket, back when the tickets were lettered.

I know -- I'd also argue that Carousel of Progress and American Adventure are absolutely E ticket level experiences -- I'm just not sure shows, no matter how good, function as a draw the way a headlining ride does for the average guest.

But I guess this will be a good way to find out! I'm curious if there will be an hour long wait to get into the show.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I know -- I'd also argue that Carousel of Progress and American Adventure are absolutely E ticket level experiences -- I'm just not sure shows, no matter how good, function as a draw the way a headlining ride does for the average guest.

But I guess this will be a good way to find out! I'm curious if there will be an hour long wait to get into the show.

…man you REALLY don’t like rides that move, do ya?

 

[UNCgolf]

…man you REALLY don’t like rides that move, do ya?

This is basically the opposite of the point I'm making -- I'm saying that shows generally aren't the draw that "rides that move" are, regardless of how good the show is.

I love rides that move, though. I just want them to have interesting content beyond simply moving. I can go to a Six Flags or some other amusement park for unthemed thrills.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Silo'ing discussions does a disservice to the discussion itself. Just my thoughts

Here's a thread where such discussion is on-topic...

Thread 'The Walt Disney Company & Parks v. Comcast & Universal Parks'

Apr 8, 2025

When any Disney parks thread becomes a Disney v. Universal discussion, then that thread is off-topic. However, here's a thread where such discussions can be move to since they are on topic here. Enjoy!!

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[MisterPenguin]

When did he say they could "lie" about it?

Here...

In my opinion, the 17B is a lie, just a fake talking point to keep shareholders happy.

 

[Tha Realest]

Just wanted to say, I know some people will think that gif is some kind of a joke but it really can't be understated what a big deal it was for Disney to land that man in a movie directed by Francis Ford Coppola for the Imagination Pavilion.

They have arguably, never been able to match or top that in terms of a show and current pop culture zeitgeist.

Closest I think they've even tried is a Frozen Singalong.

That said, in it's heyday, the Indiana Jones Stunt Spectacular was a pretty big deal e-ticket attraction as was Lights, Motors, Action!: Extreme Stunt Show.

As much as I think the BATB show could have been better done and how it very much needs to be replaced, that usually brings in big crowds, too.

I adore Captain EO. I used to have the poster in my apartment during grad school. And I absolutely believe it qualified as an E-ticket! Disneyland stayed open for what - three days? A TV special too! By 1986 the formal ticket designation for rides was retired, however.

For the young kids here, imagine if Disney rolled out a new show starring Taylor Swift and directed by Christopher Nolan off of a concept written and produced by Kevin Feige and the Russo Brothers.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This is basically the opposite of the point I'm making -- I'm saying that shows generally aren't the draw that "rides that move" are, regardless of how good the show is.

I love rides that move, though. I just want them to have interesting content beyond simply moving. I can go to a Six Flags or some other amusement park for unthemed thrills.

I know that’s your point and I agree

You just never seem to like things that move.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Here...

One persons lie is another company's officially documented SEC filing.

I am a liar. Everything I say is a lie.... Right now I am lying about lying...

Disney has officially documented in their SEC filing they will spend 17B in WDW. I laugh every time I say it

20 years from now, we can regroup and see what that 17B got us in WDW. 10 years from now is too soon because construction will still be in progress and construction walls will still be up 10 years from now

 

[Lilofan]

DCL (as do many cruise lines) rely heavily on foreign- built cruise ships as well as the trick of flagging their ships in foreign countries to skirt American wage and hour laws, and employ a large portion of their workers from foreign countries. They’ve left themselves pretty exposed should that dynamic be pulled into the current tariff disputes.

And with cast who come from the foreign countries that work on the ships for months at a time , they have no union representation. So if they needed to be off the payroll then there would be no push back to make that happen.

 

[Tha Realest]

And with cast who come from the foreign countries that work on the ships for months at a time , they have no union representation. So if they needed to be off the payroll then there would be no push back to make that happen.

that’s the thing - it’s a US-based company that has internalized non-US sourced labor, goods, and services that leaves them very exposed. It’s unfortunate to those workers but this is exactly the regime that Disney (and other cruise operators) built their business and profitability off of. Should the massive reassessment of this sort of arrangement get pulled into the current tariff wars, that would be a very thorny problem to navigate.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Here...

It’s an opinion.

And has a pretty decent chance of being correct…until we see it.

Here’s what is 100% not gonna happen: $17,000,000,000 in “fun stuff”

And we have more than a few lost in the dust who repeatedly trying to “suggest” That is even possible

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Thats probably why they are doing that media event on DLP's 33rd anniversary to announce upcoming things for the resort.

Is 33 like a big deal?

Disneyland has 70 in 3 months almost to the day and it’s fairly quiet.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Honestly, they could just cancel all this and show Soarin’ over California again next year and half the people here would be all

 

[Moth]

Honestly, they could just cancel all this and show Soarin’ over California again next year and half the people here would be all
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I think a sizable portion of the people here would forgive things like Villains and Monsters being cancelled if they got Imagination redone in return.

 

[Lilofan]

Honestly, they could just cancel all this and show Soarin’ over California again next year and half the people here would be all
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If Disney can cancel future projects and if this cost savings will help cast members from getting laid off I’m 100% on board.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Honestly, they could just cancel all this and show Soarin’ over California again next year and half the people here would be all
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You went deep down the well on this one…well done

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I think a sizable portion of the people here would forgive things like Villains and Monsters being cancelled if they got Imagination redone in return.

How about they cancel both and don’t touch imagination?

What say you?

 

[Moth]

How about they cancel both and don’t touch imagination?

What say you?

As far as I'm concerned, that's what they're doing right now, yuk yuk yuk.

 

[UNCgolf]

I think a sizable portion of the people here would forgive things like Villains and Monsters being cancelled if they got Imagination redone in return.

I would happily trade Villains and Monsters (neither of which are very exciting to me) for fixing EPCOT.