Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Disney Irish

Premium Member
This way you don’t have to click a link.
And you didn't have to click the link in my post if you just wanted the same blurb in that Reddit post as I quoted it right in the post. Basically its duplicate information just this time not from the source but still quoting the source, ie its better to get it right from the source and not a Reddit post.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
The great thing is, all those kids under 12 need a parent to also buy a ticket to take them to see SW.
It shows that Disney's core audience for "Disney" movies is and will continue to be families. And outside any "drama" the movie has that appeal which hopefully will bode well for the box office.

It's great Disney makes movies they want to make and that make their Stakeholders happy.

It would also be great if they also made movies that are profitable to make their Shareholders happy too.
These are not mutually exclusive. Too many people think these two groups are at odds with each other but they typically aren't, they just look at it from different perspectives.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
No, she's supposed to say, "It's gonna be exciting. You'll just have to wait and see how we blended the fantastic original classic with some new elements and songs," ... like a normal actress with more than 5 minutes of media training would have done.
I disagree. She was hired to act in a movie and she answered honestly when asked about it.

It’s not normal to dodge questions when you’re put out there for the purpose of answering them.
 

AdventureHasAName

Well-Known Member
I disagree. She was hired to act in a movie and she answered honestly when asked about it.

It’s not normal to dodge questions when you’re put out there for the purpose of answering them.
You can disagree all you want; your recommended course of action likely cost Disney a couple hundred million dollars (and ended Zeigler's career as a leading lady).
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
No, she's supposed to say, "It's gonna be exciting. You'll just have to wait and see how we blended the fantastic original classic with some new elements and songs," ... like a normal actress with more than 5 minutes of media training would have done.
And the followup question would have been, "Yeah but how is it going to be different or is it going to be the same?".

And if the question is dodged again it'll come across as if she is hiding something, and that would have been a different kind of drama that people would have jumped at and lost their mind about.
 

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
These are not mutually exclusive. Too many people think these two groups are at odds with each other but they typically aren't, they just look at it from different perspectives.
The could make both Stakeholders and Shareholders happy if they had control of their movie budgets.

We know they know how to control budgets - See their theme park business.
 

Trauma

Well-Known Member
The great thing is, all those kids under 12 need a parent to also buy a ticket to take them to see SW.

It's great Disney makes movies they want to make and that make their Stakeholders happy.

It would also be great if they also made movies that are profitable to make their Shareholders happy too.
The way I interpreted this is:

Little girls love it.

Dads hated it.

Moms tolerate it because it made the little girls happy.
 

erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
I can only imagine how heated this would have gotten had the internet been around back in the 80's when this was announced:
We've seen it a bunch. RDJ as iron Man, Evans as cap... Lots of questions and criticism of the choices. The big difference is competent filmmaking. People have always looked at these types of characters with a critical eye. Its up to the people making the film to prove those people wrong. The problem is, it sure doesn't seem snow white has done that. And even if it was great and Zegler was a standout performance, her comments kneecapped any chance of people saying, wow she was great, I got that one totally wrong.
Does anybody here remember the outrage when Michael Keaton was announced to play Batman in the 1989 film? It was brutal.
Actually I don't remember all that much outrage. I remember some people scratching their head a bit. but all in all the excitement for batman 89 was fever pitch by me. It was nothing like what's happened with snow white.
 

AdventureHasAName

Well-Known Member
And the followup question would have been, "Yeah but how is it going to be different or is it going to be the same?".

And if the question is dodged again it'll come across as if she is hiding something, and that would have been a different kind of drama that people would have jumped at and lost their mind about.
"New songs, some added scenes, a couple new characters people will love. I'm not sure what I'm allowed to share because Disney has sworn us to secrecy to maintain the surprises!"
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
The could make both Stakeholders and Shareholders happy if they had control of their movie budgets.

We know they know how to control budgets - See their theme park business.
You assume that Shareholders care how much they spent on their latest movie. I never really see one question at any shareholder meeting or earnings call from anyone complaining the movie budgets are too high.

Also stakeholders have a different priority than monetary. So they don't care about budgets either.

The only people that care about budgets are those that are focused on trying to mark the latest film a "flop".
 

Chi84

Premium Member
Of course you did. You plainly stated what you think she should have done (as did I). That is a recommended course of action.
No I just explained what she did (answer direct questions) and why she did it (the purpose of questioning is to elicit answers).

People are mad at Disney because of the movie they made and are scapegoating the star because she answered honestly when asked about it.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
"New songs, some added scenes, a couple new characters people will love. I'm not sure what I'm allowed to share because Disney has sworn us to secrecy to maintain the surprises!"
And we've all seen how well that goes over when stuff like that is said for an MCU film.

So yeah I don't think it would have played out as well as you think.
 

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