Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Chi84]

For some reason, Gal just got a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame - prematurely, IMO.

There were pro Palestinian protesters, and the comments on posts about it are just as hateful as the posts about Rachel.

That’s where I think we have a problem. If two different sides hate both actresses, that’s a problem.

These days I'm losing track of how many people I'm supposed to hate. Hate is exhausting.

 

[Trauma]

There’s something wrong with this?!

Besides the fact that it’s soulless and bland?

Not really.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

These days I'm losing track of how many people I'm supposed to hate. Hate is exhausting.

There are plenty of things I boycott, people I put on ignore, etc; but I don’t hate them.

 

[erasure fan1]

But people can relate with the oligarchs in charge flying to their own private resort in Florida for a weekly golf vacation

No. No one wants to hear it from them either. The difference is most big wigs like that aren't in the public like most movie stars. And the ones like Bezos, Zuckerberg, Cuban, musk... They get it all the time as well.

As a film fan I personally don’t care what an actor says off screen…. All I care about is the end product…. Including Gina Carano… I don’t agree with her statements or political views, but that does not stop me from enjoying her work on the Mandalorian

As I said earlier. You sometimes have to separate the art from the artist. But most everyone has a line that can't be crossed. It might not bother you when celebrities say whatever pops in their head or insult half a country or tries to preach from the heavens how we need to live our lives. And that's fine. But that's not the case for a great many people. That's just the way it is. If you don't want the backlash, keep it to yourself.

Did anyone really think what she said after the election wasn't going to be a firestorm? If they didn't think it would, that's a bit naive.

From my viewpoint…. As someone who grew up at the time of Sean Penn and Susan Sarandon… politics have always been apart of Hollywood…. Even in the 1940’s and 1950’s people were accusing Hollywood of being communists

Yes, and people have constantly complained about it. It's nothing new, I don't think I've ever said differently.

 

[Willmark]

Yes, and people have constantly complained about it. It's nothing new, I don't think I've ever said differently.

If I’m remembering my history correctly, the Romans had a low opinion of actors, so nothing new really.

 

[Trauma]

If I’m remembering my history correctly, the Romans had a low opinion of actors, so nothing new really.

In Roman times acting was considered repulsive.

 

[Chi84]

In Roman times acting was considered repulsive.

Hmm . . . why did they do it?

 

[Disney Irish]

If I’m remembering my history correctly, the Romans had a low opinion of actors, so nothing new really.

And in ancient Greece actors were revered and most celebrated of professions, up there with philosophers and politicians.

So we really are more like ancient Greece than Rome.

 

[Casper Gutman]

A lot of folks can dish it out put can’t take it.

If everyone wants to make a deal that we are going to try and elevate the level of discourse in society, marginalizing and disempowering bullies and anyone who is unrepentantly nasty to those weaker then themselves, I am entirely on board.

Otherwise, folks need to accept the world they’ve helped to create and stop expecting to be immune from the consequences.

 

[Ghost93]

There are many bad or mediocre actors in Hollywood, even ones who are worse than Gal Gadot. None of them gets the same treatment as Gal does.

She just got a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, she's being treated fine.

 

[Casper Gutman]

She just got a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, she's being treated fine.

Which she deserves, by the way. The star doesn’t mean anything beyond affirming that the recipient is a star, and Gadot is undeniably a star.

 

[Willmark]

Hmm . . . why did they do it?

A thousand year run (give or take) seems like a good benchmark.

Two thousand plus when Byzantium is considered.

Seems in that regard they had a good handle on what would be celebrities today

 

[Trauma]

Hmm . . . why did they do it?

A very complicated question. The answer you are looking for is to undermine the upper class. This would be a mostly satisfactory cliff notes answer.

I don’t know how this applies to today when Hollywood actors and actresses are the upper class.

 

[Disney Irish]

For some reason, Gal just got a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame - prematurely, IMO.

There were pro Palestinian protesters, and the comments on posts about it are just as hateful as the posts about Rachel.

That’s where I think we have a problem. If two different sides hate both actresses, that’s a problem.

She just got a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, she's being treated fine.

Its not really that difficult to get on the Walk of Fame. Someone just has to nominate them, they have to meet some minimal criteria, a fee gets paid, and they get it. So its not as prestigious in my opinion as it once was. Not that she doesn't deserve it, but thought I should put it into perspective.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I recently changed my mind, my prediction that the global box office for Snow will exceed 672M therefore will be a money making movie.

Note: the 672M is based on the access media published budget of 269M using the access media multiplier of 2.5.

 

[Casper Gutman]

A very complicated question. The answer you are looking for is to undermine the upper class. This would be a mostly satisfactory cliff notes answer.

I don’t know how this applies to today when Hollywood actors and actresses are the upper class.

Star actors can be very rich. But they are labor and they are not part of the elite class running the country.

The overwhelming majority of Hollywood actors are middle class.

 

[Trauma]

Star actors can be very rich. But they are labor and they are not part of the elite class running the country.

The overwhelming majority of Hollywood actors are middle class.

Yes but you keep talking about the weak being picked on.

Zegler is not weak.

She is a multi millionaire with a massive social media presence.

 

[Chi84]

A thousand year run (give or take) seems like a good benchmark.

Two thousand plus when Byzantium is considered.

Seems in that regard they had a good handle on what would be celebrities today

People to be abused for entertainment?

 

[Chi84]

A very complicated question. The answer you are looking for is to undermine the upper class. This would be a mostly satisfactory cliff notes answer.

I don’t know how this applies to today when Hollywood actors and actresses are the upper class.

Maybe it doesn't apply.

 

[Tha Realest]

Are those current, I only ask because I saw a report the Looney tunes movie was already being pulled from a lot of theaters with many likely going to SW.

Sad to see a hand drawn animated movie flop so spectacularly, another nail in the hand drawn animation coffin, I didn’t even know it existed, they did a horrible job of marketing it.

I had no idea it existed until a week ago, and I generally follow the travails of WBD somewhat closely. This seems like one of those projects saved from a write-off but no marketing money behind it.

And in ancient Greece actors were revered and most celebrated of professions, up there with philosophers and politicians.

So we really are more like ancient Greece than Rome.

What’s a civilization in antiquity that despised politicians and actors alike?