Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Chi84]

We'll see what the extra ~27ish minutes entails, but I can't imagine its going to be much more than to fill out "fairest of them all" aspect to modernize it so we get the local villagers overthrow Queenie stuff.

My thought is that there are only about 50 usable minutes from the original (which moves at a snail’s pace), so there may be more time to add some interesting story.

 

[Disney Irish]

My thought is that there are only about 50 usable minutes from the original (which moves at a snail’s pace), so there may be more time to add some interesting story.

Possible, they appear to be doing at least all the major story beats, so we’ll see what they cut, if anything, and what they add.

 

[AdventureHasAName]

Would they be thrilled, either parents or theater owners, that is an assumption you're making without any proof. I don't see many if any theater owners actually complaining that they can't sell more showings because modern movies are now longer than in 1937.

Long movie runtimes are great for streamers — but they're bad for movie theaters

In a streaming landscape that measures minutes watched, long movies and TV shows have an advantage. But the time bloat is hurting movie theaters' bottom lines.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Disney Irish]

Long movie runtimes are great for streamers — but they're bad for movie theaters

In a streaming landscape that measures minutes watched, long movies and TV shows have an advantage. But the time bloat is hurting movie theaters' bottom lines.

www.businessinsider.com

That is primarily an article taking about even longer run times of 160-180 minutes, not the average of just over 120 minutes. They even say "A long movie that's a box-office smash is still financially worth it for a movie theater to show." And "I think the audiences have generally proven that if it's the right case or the right filmmaker, they don't care about the length"

So your point here is not even a thing with regards to this movie being talked about. Snow White 2025 being ~110 minutes is actually what theaters owners are looking for and what the article is talking about. No where does it say that owners want ~90 minute movie or under 90 minutes like in 1937.

 

[Chi84]

That is primarily an article taking about even longer run times of 160-180 minutes, not the average of just over 120 minutes. They even say "A long movie that's a box-office smash is still financially worth it for a movie theater to show." And "I think the audiences have generally proven that if it's the right case or the right filmmaker, they don't care about the length"

So your point here is not even a thing with regards to this movie being talked about. Snow White 2025 being ~110 minutes is actually what theaters owners are looking for and what the article is talking about. No where does it say that owners want ~90 minute movie or under 90 minutes like in 1937.

Well that’s not fair. You read the article.

 

[DKampy]

I’m hoping they cut down on the floor-sweeping, dish-washing, bed-making etc. and replace it with some new content. Like maybe a good-looking prince with actual lines and screen time.

Oh boy that might upset some hack YouTubers if they can’t watch the girl clean

 

[LittleBuford]

To me, it seems unnecessary to keep painting the animated film in a bad light just to vindicate the live-action version. Of course sensibilities have changed since the ’30s; that doesn’t mean the original hasn’t held up beautifully in the eyes of many of us. Taste is too personal a matter to be reduced to the kinds of assumptions and blanket statements being voiced here.

 

[LittleBuford]

Oh boy that might upset some hack YouTubers if they can’t watch the girl clean

The cleaning scene is charming. The interaction between Snow White and the animals is full of whimsy and humour.

 

[Disney Irish]

Well that’s not fair. You read the article.

I mean how dare I actually read an article to learn about something some poster was talking about instead of just the headline. Even if one just skimmed the article they can still get the context.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Of course theaters prefer shorter run times to fit more screenings.

Pure guess on my part is they want movies of any length THAT SELLS A LOT OF TICKETS, not movies that have 6 people in in the theater during a screening.

 

[Agent H]

I mean how dare I actually read an article to learn about something some poster was talking about instead of just the headline. Even if one just skimmed the article they can still get the context.

Be grateful! At least they bothered to do that and not just take some rage bait YouTubers word for it

 

[Chi84]

To me, it seems unnecessary to keep painting the animated film in a bad light just to vindicate the live-action version. Of course sensibilities have changed since the ’30s; that doesn’t mean the original hasn’t held up beautifully in the eyes of many of us. Taste is too personal a matter to be reduced to the kinds of assumptions and blanket statements being voiced here.

I understand what you mean and I know the original is loved by many.

But I stand by my comments that it would not do well if released as an original to today’s audiences. I stated many reasons supporting my opinion.

 

[Disney Irish]

Of course theaters prefer shorter run times to fit more screenings.

Pure guess on my part is they want movies of any length THAT SELLS A LOT OF TICKETS, not movies that have 6 people in in the theater during a screening.

Its not an easy statement to make though. As its the movies that bring in the audience in the first place. If shorter movies aren't what modern audiences want then its doesn't matter how many showings you have at a theater, as people won't show up and you'll just have more empty showings.

So I think there is a happy medium of just over 2 hrs, even in that article posted the time where it actually starts to affect showings is 2 hours 20 minutes. So if you have a ~120-140 minute movie that is around what most theater owners are comfortable with without affecting too much and that is what I think the average of most movies are these days.

Other side of that though is the amount of screens per theater. Just as with the amount of premium screens, the amount of screens in general per theater needs to increase as well. If you have a town that only has one theater with only 2 screens, well you are missing out on many first run movies. So might want to consider expanding out and adding a few more screens for your theater so you can make more money.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Its not an easy statement to make though. As its the movies that bring in the audience in the first place. If shorter movies aren't what modern audiences want then its doesn't matter how many showings you have at a theater, as people won't show up and you'll just have more empty showings.

So I think there is a happy medium of just over 2 hrs, even in that article posted the time where it actually starts to affect showings is 2 hours 20 minutes. So if you have a ~120-140 minute movie that is around what most theater owners are comfortable with without affecting too much and that is what I think the average of most movies are these days.

Other side of that though is the amount of screens per theater. Just as with the amount of premium screens, the amount of screens in general per theater needs to increase as well. If you have a town that only has one theater with only 2 screens, well you are missing out on many first run movies. So might want to consider expanding out and adding a few more screens for your theater so you can make more money.

I will modify my comment.
Pure guess on my part, theaters wants to screen movies THAT SELLS A LOT OF TICKETS, not movies that have 6 people in in the theater during a screening.

 

[Disney Irish]

I will modify my comment.
Pure guess on my part, theaters wants to screen movies THAT SELLS A LOT OF TICKETS, not movies that have 6 people in in the theater during a screening.

I mean that goes without saying, but yeah.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Just highlights everyone’s different tastes, no matter what they do what one person likes another will dislike, etc.

That’s movies in general…. Sometimes we forget all movies are subjective…. What appeals to one person…, may not appeal to another

It always has been! Except there are hate groups now.

How many decisions have you made on behalf of the WDC?

My recommendation would have been not to remake Snow White at all. The material is too outdated and slow-moving for a frame for frame remake and it’s just too old for anyone to be clamoring for any kind of remake.

I think that’s all the more reason to remake it. There are more possibilities.

 

[LittleBuford]

I understand what you mean and I know the original is loved by many.

But I stand by my comments that it would not do well if released as an original to today’s audiences. I stated many reasons supporting my opinion.

Of course, but that goes for so many old films that it hardly needs stating.

 

[easyrowrdw]

How many decisions have you made on behalf of the WDC?

My recommendation would have been not to remake Snow White at all. The material is too outdated and slow-moving for a frame for frame remake and it’s just too old for anyone to be clamoring for any kind of remake.

Given that you hate the movie isn't Snow White the perfect movie to be remade? They can only make it better! lol

An argument I read was that Disney should focus remakes on the movies that didn't work (someone in this thread made a similar case). I think I agree with that.

 

[Chi84]

Given that you hate the movie isn't Snow White the perfect movie to be remade? They can only make it better! lol

An argument I read was that Disney should focus remakes on the movies that didn't work (someone in this thread made a similar case). I think I agree with that.

Hate is a strong word. I found it hard to sit through but I understand how others can love it. The movie was a masterpiece for its time and made was a box office hit.

 

[DKampy]

The cleaning scene is charming. The interaction between Snow White and the animals is full of whimsy and humour.

Yes it can be charming….The film is a masterpiece and groundbreaking for pushing the boundaries of what animation could be…. But at the same time that film
Is of it’s era… a woman who spends most of the film cleaning and taking care of 7 men…Which in the end is saved by the prince’s kiss

Without going into detail due to forum rules… I am sure some of these hacks(as some posters call them)would like to go back to that era….and for all the complaining those individuals would never watch the film anyway