What's also interesting is that only GMR and EE got goodye merch. I wonder if we'll see farewell Muppets merch pop up in the next few months.Thanks for compiling that, interesting to see.
Probably moving CMs over to Villains/MermaidIt's interesting they decided to close it right in time for summer.
I think they need to utilize the early 2000s IPs and mid-late 90s IPs more before they put stuff in that hasn't really stood the rest of time.
WDW doesn't have a confirmed ride for The Lion King, nothing involving Lilo and Stitch, nothing substantial for Aladdin, Hercules or Mulan, all Beauty and the Beast has is a restaurant. On the Pixar side they've got nothing with The Incredibles, WALL-E is the most EPCOT Pixar film ever and hasn't shown up yet, Emperor's New Groove has it's fans.
Villains and Mermaid will be open.It's interesting they decided to close it right in time for summer.
.... huh, is it telling that I forgot about all of that?I agree with your overall point but want to mention Beauty and the Beast has the weird interactive show thing and that whole area is supposed to be for her. With a sitdown restaurant, quick service restaurant, said kinda-sorta-attraction-maybe thing, then the live show, then the stupid sing-along, it's in three parks and doing waaaaaay better than most movies.
(Give it a year and I'm sure they can shove it in Animal Kingdom somewhere. It's got a horse in it, afterall.)
Yup, the Bob Iger compensation story was definitely something that they wanted to not make it through a news cycle.It is the classic bad news Friday drop - we've seen it many times before.
.... huh, is it telling that I forgot about all of that?
It’s part of the project schedule because it’ll help control operating costs and construction costs as they do the work slowly. The scope of work for the in-park area is nowhere near equivalent to the scope of work for the area outside of the current guest areas. There is even less of a proximity issue when compared to Disney’s Animal Kingdom because the major work has to occur outside existing guest areas.I'm assuming they are closing the area now because it's part of the project timeline, not because it's saving them operational costs.
We all hoped they would stagger in phases, but this is not exactly Dinorama and Dinosaur in terms of proximity.
They are closing all of Grand Avenue in June. They are also shutting down two restaurants and a quick snack/beverage location which do generate revenue.
Mama Melrose for whatever reason is getting a head start.
Yes just keep Muppets where it is. You know they dont have a repalcement show. They are very similar in style. Just say it is a theatre with traveling talent and the muppets are putting on a show. I dunno. If they make Tiana fit they can keep Muppets where it is.I don't know. I'm not in charge of the company. I just like Monsters Inc and Muppets. Don't point your gun at me. In an ideal world it'd be a "Muppets and Monsters and What-Not City" with both existing together, akin to a more wacky and zany Fantasyland.
If there's any IP that can mesh with Muppets that Disney owns, it's the IP that had its design philosophy take direct inspiration from Jim Henson.
It’s been there since the beginning.Anyone else notice the billboard for Monsters Inc Laugh Floor in the new artwork? Do we think it will move, or just an advertisement?
You know that there’s a thread on this very forum in which multiple trustworthy insiders, including the owner of this site, confirm that Disney is looking to slash costs at WDW, right? And that Disney has shuttered attractions to save money over and over and over again, right? What makes you think Disney wouldn’t close attractions to save money?I'm assuming they are closing the area now because it's part of the project timeline, not because it's saving them operational costs.
We all hoped they would stagger in phases, but this is not exactly Dinorama and Dinosaur in terms of proximity.
They are closing all of Grand Avenue in June. They are also shutting down two restaurants and a quick snack/beverage location which do generate revenue.
Mama Melrose for whatever reason is getting a head start.
My God. That's real.You aren't going to believe this...
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I very much agree that IP from the renaissance days are severely under utilized.I think they need to utilize the early 2000s IPs and mid-late 90s IPs more before they put stuff in that hasn't really stood the rest of time.
WDW doesn't have a confirmed ride for The Lion King, nothing involving Lilo and Stitch, nothing substantial for Aladdin, Hercules or Mulan, all Beauty and the Beast has is a restaurant. On the Pixar side they've got nothing with The Incredibles, WALL-E is the most EPCOT Pixar film ever and hasn't shown up yet, Emperor's New Groove has it's fans.
Sure nobody is dying for Chicken Little to get a major ride, but I think that list alone would be good enough? I'm biased here but my age range, born around the early 2000s and such, are going to be looking at increasing spending power in the near future, it makes Disney would want to monopolize on things that my generation has nostalgia for. I carry bias here and I'll acknowledge that, but I can't necessarily disagree with them on wanting Monsters Inc and Cars in Florida in a more expanded manner, even if they way they're doing it is destructive.
You know that there’s a thread on this very forum in which multiple trustworthy insiders, including the owner of this site, confirm that Disney is looking to slash costs at WDW, right? And that Disney has shuttered attractions to save money over and over and over again, right? What makes you think Disney wouldn’t close attractions to save money?
They’ll also save money on the project by being able to do a chunk of it more slowly.It’s a fair assumption but flawed. I think Nemo hours is the perfect example of Disney cutting operational expenses. And I’m sure there will be more. This happens to be a new project where they are actually spending money.
I mean they are shutting it all down. Grand Avenue, the whole thing!
Both of these places generate revenue:
Mama Melrose
PizzeRizzo
Maybe the new snack/soda shop stays open?
So they are shutting the whole land down just to save some operational costs at Muppets or maybe because the they have a project timeline?
I mean closing Mama Melrose in May and the whole land in June is a pretty clear signal where they think they will be. Just might not be a safe area while they bulldoze down the store. I guess we can see what unfolds in the summer to see if they are truly working on the site.
Not trying to throw shade, but it’s also probably a project you predicted Disney would get cold feet and not do anything.
No doubt about that, I don't disagree.They’ll also save money on the project by being able to do a chunk of it more slowly.
It's interesting they decided to close it right in time for summer.
Disney values a dollar saved through cutting staffing or services much more then one earned through increased capacity and offerings. This seems mad, but its well documented and has been demonstrated again and again. It's the fundamental difference between the Iger era and the Eisner era.It’s a fair assumption but flawed. I think Nemo hours is the perfect example of Disney cutting operational expenses. And I’m sure there will be more. This happens to be a new project where they are actually spending money.
I mean they are shutting it all down. Grand Avenue, the whole thing!
Both of these places generate revenue:
Mama Melrose
PizzeRizzo
Maybe the new snack/soda shop stays open?
So they are shutting the whole land down just to save some operational costs at Muppets or maybe because the they have a project timeline?
"Probably." You can check, you know, or actually pay attention to what I'm saying. Let me help - I never doubted Disney would close a beloved attraction. I also believed the Door Coaster, Cars mess, and AK changes would very likely be completed in some form, albeit with significant cuts. I am more skeptical of the Muppets replacement and RnR overhaul, but the most likely outcome for those is the completion of cheap, underwhelming replacements. Villains Land is essentially a pipe dream.I mean closing Mama Melrose in May and the whole land in June is a pretty clear signal where they think they will be. Just might not be a safe area while they bulldoze down the store. I guess we can see what unfolds in the summer to see if they are truly working on the site.
Not trying to throw shade, but it’s also probably a project you predicted Disney would get cold feet and not do anything.
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