EPCOT Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

[Marc Davis Fan]

They didn’t even get this bit right. The Land is obscured for a dead centre front shot (although with the pavilion lighting not working properly for years some might say it’s for the best)

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Maybe some of the plants/trees will at least obscure it a bit more when they grow in?

It’s amazing that if the covid shutdowns had happened just slightly earlier or the Communicore West demolition has been scheduled for just slightly later, they would’ve probably reverted to the “lower budget” / “less ambitious” plan of keeping both Communicore buildings and the fountain.

 

[marni1971]

Could you see it before from the center when the Character Spot was there and the roof connecting the two buildings?

That’s the point. One of the few possible good takes from this whole sorry mess and they couldn’t even get that right.

 

[Squishy]

That’s the point. One of the few possible good takes from this whole sorry mess and they couldn’t even get that right.

You think the issue has todo with bad imagineering or management being more demanding these days and requesting multiple changes to designs that ends up messing things up?

 

[marni1971]

You think the issue has todo with bad imagineering or management being more demanding these days and requesting multiple changes to designs that ends up messing things up?

I honestly don’t know anymore. Though I will say more times than not, WDI do what they’re told.

 

[Bocabear]

You think the issue has todo with bad imagineering or management being more demanding these days and requesting multiple changes to designs that ends up messing things up?

seems like the answer is "Yes" But we are not in the loop of what actually happened... I imagine it was a death by a million cuts with lots and lots of daily changes that bit by bit veered this project completely off course... but there should have been some with enough authority to have steered that ship back on course at some point....which they didn't do.
Hopefully sometime in the mid to late 2030s they will decide it is time to clear things out a bit and create a better plan and vision...

 

[trainplane3]

I like the daytime Encanto show. It's Disney. And fun. And good music.

But, I hereby condemn the Christian rock band that can't hit their notes and the late night Latino Pop DJ who's not even playing Christmas songs and whose music clashes with the SSE 'shows.'

But far be it from me to criticize anything modern Disney does.

I'll agree with this. The Encanto show is fine and it's not obnoxious. The DJ that takes the stage is the problem for the area. It's fine for NYE but not for daily operations. I just have to laugh at the umbrellas all throughout the CC area though. You'd think they would have a larger overhang.

I also like the acrobat group that performs in the gardens. They're fun, weird, but very good and entertaining. A good fit in the area and I'm glad they're still there.

Edit: I just realized you can hear the DJ in my video of the ground lights:

 

[Epcot82Guy]

To take the cue from Luminous, it feels like an orchestra without a conductor. And each section was told to play a modern version of a Disney song. And somehow that was going to gel. Epcot (as with all parks and hotels) needs an empowered conductor. And that's where WDI seems to have failed most recently (or has been set up to fail, perhaps).

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Epcot (as with all parks and hotels) needs an empowered conductor. And that's where WDI seems to have failed most recently (or has been set up to fail, perhaps).

*paging Mr Greenaway..Mr Gavin Greenaway your needed at World Showcase lagoon to fix an abysmal show*

 

[Epcot82Guy]

*paging Mr Greenaway..Mr Gavin Greenaway your needed at World Showcase lagoon to fix an abysmal show*

I actually really enjoy Luminous, especially because of the music selections and original creations. But, ANYTHING GAVIN...

Now, if Pinar and Gavin paired up to write new pavilion music and helped restore some classics (*cough*cough* One Little Spark, Fun to be Free, Tomorrow's Child...)

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

They didn’t even get this bit right. The Land is obscured for a dead centre front shot (although with the pavilion lighting not working properly for years some might say it’s for the best)

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One unique thing I did liked about the demolition and construction was able to seeing the Imagination Pyramids, The Land building (maybe) and Spaceship Earth from Creation's. Also from the monorail station you can now see The Japan Pavilion which I don't think or know if you couldn't prior before with the Innovention's West building.

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

I just have to laugh at the umbrellas all throughout the CC area though. You'd think they would have a larger overhang.

Those things are hideous and unlike if they were situated where Journey of Water is then it would been even more significant why it was like recycled for the Island Tower at Polynesian in the same color!

 

[mysto]

I think the DJ show would be more tolerable if the volume were lower. Not just easier to ignore but also less jarring and overbearing if you like the show. It would intrude less on the other goings on.

Never let a teenager control the volume at a party, up up UP! Oh the police are here, how did that happen? The person on the dial of the Encanto show is likely more mature, contributing more to the enjoyability of the show than many realize.

 

[DreamfinderGuy]

Could you see it before from the center when the Character Spot was there and the roof connecting the two buildings?

Yeah, you could. It was designed around that. The current building goes all the way to the center of the old breezeway, killing that view.

 

[tparris]

Ground lights look awful at the moment. They’re all working, but at least half of them have incorrect colors and random blue spots on them. For reference, all the lights are supposed to be green in these photos. The lights by Communicore hall are off again as well. The lights themselves seem to be holding up very well, as 100% are still lighting up (aside from the ones by Communicore) so this seems to be completely software/instruction related. All because they were too cheap to install things reliably I’m assuming.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Ground lights look awful at the moment. They’re all working, but at least half of them have incorrect colors and random blue spots on them. For reference, all the lights are supposed to be green in these photos. The lights by Communicore hall are off again as well. The lights themselves seem to be holding up very well, as 100% are still lighting up (aside from the ones by Communicore) so this seems to be completely software/instruction related. All because they were too cheap to install things reliably I’m assuming.View attachment 833145View attachment 833146View attachment 833147

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

Ground lights look awful at the moment. They’re all working, but at least half of them have incorrect colors and random blue spots on them. For reference, all the lights are supposed to be green in these photos. The lights by Communicore hall are off again as well. The lights themselves seem to be holding up very well, as 100% are still lighting up (aside from the ones by Communicore) so this seems to be completely software/instruction related. All because they were too cheap to install things reliably I’m assuming.View attachment 833145View attachment 833146View attachment 833147

Maybe Merlin infected them?

 

[MisterPenguin]

Ground lights look awful at the moment. They’re all working, but at least half of them have incorrect colors and random blue spots on them. For reference, all the lights are supposed to be green in these photos. The lights by Communicore hall are off again as well. The lights themselves seem to be holding up very well, as 100% are still lighting up (aside from the ones by Communicore) so this seems to be completely software/instruction related. All because they were too cheap to install things reliably I’m assuming.View attachment 833145View attachment 833146View attachment 833147

When I was there two weeks ago, the solid green was working, and so was the solid blue. The solid pink, however, had a few light green spots.

 

[IMDREW]

 

[James Alucobond]

Jeebus.

 

[WorldExplorer]

She makes a vital mistake; she's not taking into account the money saved when they inevitably give up and stop trying to fix it at all!