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DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

Karakasa

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I'll believe the Indiana Jones and Encanto attractions will be about animals when I see it. Did they even specify what sort of mythical creature the Indiana Jones ride will have?
So, they haven't... But, imo, they've left hints. As pointed out by McMickeyWorld, the tree design featured in the concept art may be a ceiba (or kapok) tree. The ceiba's associated with concepts that are key to animal kingdom's themes - nature, the circle of life, and so on. It's also associated with a certain Mayan god - Itzamna. Itzamna is variously described as a humanoid (most Mesoamerican gods are depicted in a human form even if they're described as an animal), crocodile, bird, serpents, tusked beast, or some hybrid thereof. The ceiba design in the concept art has serpents within its branches and a tusked beast at its roots. So I'm leaning towards that. But at the very least, the ceiba's sort of a connector between the heavens, Earth, and the underworld. So if it's not Itzamna, there's a possibility to go with a feathered serpent like Quetzalcoatl or Kukulkan, or an underworld being like Camazotz, bat god of death. But I'm leaning towards Itzamna.
 

Drew the Disney Dude

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes

Leonardo Dicaprio Look GIF by Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
 

Brer Panther

Well-Known Member
I expect the Encanto attraction to mostly focus on the other characters and rooms of the casita, then Antonio's room is the finale. So basically one room that has to do with animals.

But who knows? Maybe they're having Lin Manuel-Miranda write new lyrics for "We Don't Talk About Bruno" about capybaras at this very second...
I'm sure we'll see the research trips begin soon enough. Maybe the Imagineering team petting Capybara for an hour.
I would love it if they created all these new animal characters and gave them incredibly lengthy descriptions and backstories, only for them to not even speak or do anything other than stand there on the attraction. Just like all those new characters they created for Tiana's Bayou Adventure.
 

Gremlin Gus

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I would love it if they created all these new animal characters and gave them incredibly lengthy descriptions and backstories, only for them to not even speak or do anything other than stand there on the attraction. Just like all those new characters they created for Tiana's Bayou Adventure.
Technically speaking, some of Antonio's animals do have names, I know the Toucan's name is "Pico" and one of the capybaras is named "Chispi".
 

AidenRodriguez731

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Is that supposed to be a "people who like Splash Mountain are automatically racist" comment?
No blanket statements are for people who like Splash Mountain.

obvious joke but still. I loved Splash Mountain, I like Tiana's better. But I feel a lot of the Splash Mountain people are gripping onto a past that might not be accurate. I'm a more recent Disney parks fan so I don't get the same nostalgia for some of these rides and just see them as they are. I'm sure I have some controversial takes but I do like almost all of the older rides for what they are... Splash to me was a dated ride in the wrong way. Again, absolutely did love the ride but between the not as great maintenance plus the movie the ride is based on... I definitely wanted it replaced
 

Disgruntled Walt

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
That feathered serpent is gonna be beautiful.

I'll miss my beloved dinos, but something like a Quetzalcoatl AA is gonna be awesome to see.

If it shapes out.
IF IT SHAPES OUT?

What do you mean by that? There's a chance there is no cool animatronic? There is a chance that they don't follow through with this?
 

Marc Davis Fan

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I've been thinking about the following, and decided this is the best thread for it (since Tropical Americas is the soonest-to-open of the truly major upcoming projects).

The likely budgets of all the announced projects combined would be only a small fraction of the supposed $17 billion in capital expenditures for a 10-year period.

If erring towards the high end, I might imagine something like:
  • Tropical Americas: $600 million
  • Monstropolis: $500 million
  • Muppets RnRC: $100 million
  • Cars: $500 million
  • Villains: $1.5 billion
That totals just over $3 billion. Maybe I'm still underestimating - maybe the Villains land is an unprecedented $2 billion (is that possible?), maybe Cars is a whopping $1 billion due to infrastructure complexities, maybe Tropical Americas and Monstropolis are several hundred million dollars more, plus we should count hotel expansions, etc. - so let's round it up and say $5 billion.

If they're really budgeting $17 billion for the 10-year period with the supposed aim of leapfrogging over the competition via extraordinary scale/ambition, why do they appear so budget-constrained right now... especially considering what we know about these additions: the Encanto attraction only being a D-ticket (if still true?), the Indiana Jones Adventure plans being downsized so it's no longer anticipated to be the superior version (if still true?), and not even to be going all-out with the door coaster (according to insiders in that thread)? Is this only because the anticipated cash won't be available until the second half of the decade? (I know they said the capex would be rear-loaded, but this seems really rear-loaded... like, $10-15 billion in capex over the remaining five years is nearly inconceivable to me...)
 
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doctornick

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This is exactly why I keep harping on the flume coming to AK… it fits perfectly and addresses a BUNCH of needs.
I think it would better as an all ages non thrill ride (water ride but no big drop) that is inside and weather independent to operate. But even a Splash type ride would help
 

AidenRodriguez731

Well-Known Member
I think it would better as an all ages non thrill ride (water ride but no big drop) that is inside and weather independent to operate. But even a Splash type ride would help
In a world where Animal Kingdom became a really full park, we would get an expansion/Retheme of the dinosaur area with a second better ride while keeping the theming of dinosaurs. Tropical Americas as it is pretty much but replacing Indy with an indoor rollercoaster (thinking something kinda like Gringotts imo) and an UP stage show. Then we get the lion king ride and a new expansion being Bugs Land pretty much 1-1. That to me, would make AK truly a full day park to the gen public
 

Loose Pebble

Active Member
I've been thinking about the following, and decided this is the best thread for it (since Tropical Americas is the soonest-to-open of the truly major upcoming projects).

The likely budgets of all the announced projects combined would be only a small fraction of the supposed $17 billion in capital expenditures for a 10-year period.

If erring towards the high end, I might imagine something like:
  • Tropical Americas: $600 million
  • Monstropolis: $500 million
  • Muppets RnRC: $100 million
  • Cars: $500 million
  • Villains: $1.5 billion
That totals just over $3 billion. Maybe I'm still underestimating - maybe the Villains land is an unprecedented $2 billion (is that possible?), maybe Cars is a whopping $1 billion due to infrastructure complexities, maybe Tropical Americas and Monstropolis are several hundred million dollars more, plus we should count hotel expansions, etc. - so let's round it up and say $5 billion.

If they're really budgeting $17 billion for the 10-year period with the supposed aim of leapfrogging over the competition via extraordinary scale/ambition, why do they appear so budget-constrained right now... especially considering what we know about these additions: the Encanto attraction only being a D-ticket (if still true?), the Indiana Jones Adventure plans being downsized so it's no longer anticipated to be the superior version (if still true?), and not even to be going all-out with the door coaster (according to insiders in that thread)? Is this only because the anticipated cash won't be available until the second half of the decade? (I know they said the capex would be rear-loaded, but this seems really rear-loaded... like, $10-15 billion in capex over the remaining five years is nearly inconceivable to me...)
I wonder how that would change though once you add in the non-park investments. There’s all the stuff for cruises, and then there’s the Epic investment of 1.5 bil. There’s also the international parks investments - Lion King in Paris, Spider-Man in Shanghai and Hong Kong. Not sure how much these would cost but it gets much closer to that 50/50 split.
 

Marc Davis Fan

Well-Known Member
I wonder how that would change though once you add in the non-park investments. There’s all the stuff for cruises, and then there’s the Epic investment of 1.5 bil. There’s also the international parks investments - Lion King in Paris, Spider-Man in Shanghai and Hong Kong. Not sure how much these would cost but it gets much closer to that 50/50 split.
Disney states that the $17 billion is for WDW specifically.

If you include non-WDW parks/“experiences,” they state that the total capex will be $60 billion.
 

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