Disgruntled Walt
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Everyone knows you're the one who makes everything happen everywhere. You're the closest thing to an omnipotent bird since big bird found the infinity gauntlet:
I didn't say WHICH big bird.
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Moana 2 (Disney Animation - November 2024)
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I didn't say WHICH big bird.
DisneyWarrior27
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Get a life!
That’s not funny! I don’t want Moana 2 a flop!
DarkMetroid567
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No movie is flop-proof but if you have to imagine a Disney movie that is review-resistant (a la Despicable Me/Minions), it’s gotta be this one, right?
BrianLo
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Unless Disney / marketing has somehow betrayed us all and this isn't a musical in the vein of Moana...
Ya, I think it's pretty much as flop-resistant as it's ever going to be. Akin to Frozen 2.
I'm having increasing faith that initial trailer views are in fact somewhat relevant to audience interest tracking. We poo-poo'd D&W3 and Inside Out 2, but they over-indexed tracking like the trailer uptake suggested they would. It's not perfect, it's very early, but it is seemingly an accurate gauge of people being willing to show up in droves.
'Moana 2' Sets a Record as Disney's Biggest Animated Trailer Launch in History - The Walt Disney Company
There’s just no telling how far she’ll go. On Wednesday, Walt Disney Animation Studios debuted the teaser trailer for the highly anticipated feature film Moana …Read More
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Disney Irish
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Plus not to mention that Moana is still the most streamed Disney+ movie. So that'll play a factor as well as all those parents streaming it will take their kids to see it.Unless Disney / marketing has somehow betrayed us all and this isn't a musical in the vein of Moana...
Ya, I think it's pretty much as flop-resistant as it's ever going to be. Akin to Frozen 2.
I'm having increasing faith that initial trailer views are in fact somewhat relevant to audience interest tracking. We poo-poo'd D&W3 and Inside Out 2, but they over-indexed tracking like the trailer uptake suggested they would. It's not perfect, it's very early, but it is seemingly an accurate gauge of people being willing to show up in droves.
'Moana 2' Sets a Record as Disney's Biggest Animated Trailer Launch in History - The Walt Disney Company
There’s just no telling how far she’ll go. On Wednesday, Walt Disney Animation Studios debuted the teaser trailer for the highly anticipated feature film Moana …Read More
Bumming around the big box stores this past week and change, I'm starting to see Moana 2 toys on the shelves but they seem to be fighting for shelf space with other Disney Princess doodads and, at Walmart, the oodles of toys that have been produced for Wicked (Part One), which are getting more prominent placement. That's to say nothing of how many other tie-in products the latter is managing. Stepped into an Ulta Beauty and the whole front display is makeup and skin and hair care goodies. And Target stores had branded Stanley Tumblers that apparently sold out near-instantly earlier this week!
I think Disney needs to up its promotional game for Moana 2 if they want to take Thanksgiving instead of coming in a respectable second (though Wicked hitting bigger would be a rising tide that lifts Moana's boat anyway)...they went all-out on Wish merchandise but isn't being similarly aggressive for this. It would be funny if this was the second time in 25 years Disney banked on a sequel over Thanksgiving that ended up playing second fiddle to a Universal Pictures release about a famous green antagonist...(anyone remember 102 Dalmatians?).
I think Disney needs to up its promotional game for Moana 2 if they want to take Thanksgiving instead of coming in a respectable second (though Wicked hitting bigger would be a rising tide that lifts Moana's boat anyway)...they went all-out on Wish merchandise but isn't being similarly aggressive for this. It would be funny if this was the second time in 25 years Disney banked on a sequel over Thanksgiving that ended up playing second fiddle to a Universal Pictures release about a famous green antagonist...(anyone remember 102 Dalmatians?).
DisneyWarrior27
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I mean I see spots for the movie during MNF and Dancing with the Stars every week. So I feel like they are marketing the movie as hard as they can.
Phroobar
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I'm seeing the Wish stuff marked at clearance at Walmart so that should make room for Moana 2. At least the Lightyear stuff has moved to secondary clearance stores like Ross. It didn't even sell at clearance.
BrianLo
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Wicked is a millennial play and Moana Gen alpha (with their millennial parents). I’m not sure what demo is stronger, non-facetiously.
But I’m a bit surprised they are leaning heavily into Wicked toys. Is that who is destined to see Wicked? I actually think the first movie will do quite well and the second (wicked sequel) is going to be the one to struggle, after the first exhausts the greatest hits.
I say this as a Wicked fan, I rode that peak in University. It’s certainly no Cats or adaptation that came way too late, but it also isn’t quite coming early enough. A decade ago might have been a good movie conversion time. Honestly… Frozen 1.0 was that time.
No lie, the Disney Princess aisle at the Target I visited still has a big chunk of it devoted to discounted Wish items and there are only a few Moana 2 items squeezed in thus far. I assume by Thanksgiving they'll have an endcap ready to go?
I have a niece who was born a few years after the original Frozen who loves that movie, likes Disney Princess stuff in general, stuff like Descendants as well - and now she's interested in Wicked. Ironically, Disney knocking Wicked off so often over the past 10+ years appears to have primed the pump for younger people to be interested in it because it's in the vein of stuff they already like! (And the film is getting a PG rating.)
Farerb
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A decade ago I would have been excited to see Wicked, but I don't think I care about these "The villain is not actually bad, they actually have a point" narratives anymore. I still plan to watch it but I'm not as excited about it as I would have been. It's definitely not going to be better than The Wizard of Oz.
Moana 2 is probably going to be unremarkable but I like the original and I like the characters so I hope it's okay at least.
Moana 2 is probably going to be unremarkable but I like the original and I like the characters so I hope it's okay at least.
Phroobar
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I've seen Wicked on Broadway. I really don't care about seeing it again in the theater. My wife will probably drag me to see it. Moana 2 is just another Disney movie. It will do fine without me
Hawkeye_2018
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I said it before, but if this movie is at least average, it has a chance to make as much or even more than Inside Out 2
Yoo hoo! https://deadline.com/2024/10/moana-2-box-office-projection-1236120216/ Looks like WDAS will be saved! Deal with it, haters!
Again though, the December lineup is looking unusually barren for "big" wide-release studio titles this year. The next weekend that has anything large-scale on offer after Thanksgiving break is December 13th between Kraven the Hunter and The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim, both of which are big question marks given how poorly superhero films have been doing of late (unless like Deadpool & Wolverine they bring really really big names back, and as The Flash proved, sometimes not even then) and the potentially niche appeal of an anime adaptation of LOTR supplementary material. The weekend after that is the showdown between Mufasa: The Lion King and Sonic the Hedgehog 3. Over Christmas itself, it's mostly awards bait; probably the one mass-appeal title is Nosferatu?
So if Gladiator II is good, it can probably manage decent holds from week to week for a while, especially if one or more of those above titles whiff. As for estimates on how well Wicked Part One can do, well, people aren't on holiday break just yet, there may well be anxiety over it being a part one and how audiences will feel about that, and it's definitely a female-skewing property. A lot will depend on how good walk-up business is, and what the word-of-mouth is from those who get to it first, things that Moana 2 probably doesn't have to worry about. If Wicked gets a good response, that could be a tipping point for strong holds in subsequent weekends - families who might not have thought about it will check it out, etc. It could also easily handle "overflow" crowds from Moana 2.
Edit: Also, Gladiator II has premium/large format nighttime screenings to itself until Kraven the Hunter, while first Wicked and then Moana 2 get matinees, at least in IMAX.