EPCOT Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot

Mr. Sullivan

Well-Known Member
Would you like to have breakfast with Robert Iger each morning?

He’s looking for criticism like yours 👍🏻
Oh there’s plenty of stuff I can criticize about Disney and stuff they’ve added the last few years. Hell, even THIS year. Even more I can about Bob.

But you know, I just don’t find any joy in constant negativity and complaining like some Disney fans seem to live for. I go into each thing looking to walk away liking it. Sometimes I don’t, sometimes I do. In this case, I think this attraction is wonderful and fits perfectly into the educational and beautiful world of EPCOT.

Had I not liked it, I wouldn’t be afraid to say so but I also wouldn’t make it my entire personality. It’s much more fun to talk about what I like than what I don’t.

If that somehow makes me an Iger apologist then sure whatever I’ll take the title even though I really am not a fan. But I’m not gonna waste my time getting snarky about what other people enjoy because frankly I LIKE seeing other people enjoy something even if I don’t personally.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Oh there’s plenty of stuff I can criticize about Disney and stuff they’ve added the last few years. Hell, even THIS year. Even more I can about Bob.

But you know, I just don’t find any joy in constant negativity and complaining like some Disney fans seem to live for. I go into each thing looking to walk away liking it. Sometimes I don’t, sometimes I do. In this case, I think this attraction is wonderful and fits perfectly into the educational and beautiful world of EPCOT.

Had I not liked it, I wouldn’t be afraid to say so but I also wouldn’t make it my entire personality. It’s much more fun to talk about what I like than what I don’t.

If that somehow makes me an Iger apologist then sure whatever I’ll take the title even though I really am not a fan. But I’m not gonna waste my time getting snarky about what other people enjoy because frankly I LIKE seeing other people enjoy something even if I don’t personally.

I get your sentiment…I just wouldn’t choose to die on the hill that has the rock garden in it
 

Mr. Sullivan

Well-Known Member
May I ask why you believe AK? I don’t mean that sarcastically, I’m genuinely curious because to me it doesn’t work at AK.

It’z not about animals nor is it about conservation. It’s about the scientific concept of the water cycle. That’s EPCOT’s bread and butter.

I’ve seen some people make the argument of it being nature based making it AK ready but does that mean Living with the Land should go to AK? Or The Seas? It’s science based which is exactly what the front half of EPCOT is.
 

TrainsOfDisney

Well-Known Member
May I ask why you believe AK? I don’t mean that sarcastically, I’m genuinely curious because to me it doesn’t work at AK.
For me, it feels DAK or Adventureland. It’s the pavement, the rock work, the lighting, everything about it.

I’m guessing it was designed for MK as part of the Moana expansion and somebody said “oh let’s plop this in Epcot” - but I still like it!
 

Mr. Sullivan

Well-Known Member
I get your sentiment…I just wouldn’t choose to die on the hill that has the rock garden in it
But why though if it’s an enjoyable attraction that is quite fun for me and my family to go through?

I can fully understand if your personal preference is that you don’t enjoy it. There’s stuff at the parks I just do not enjoy. But I can’t say that someone else enjoying it is dying on any sort of hill as if liking it is an objectively incorrect assessment.

It’s very well liked by the majority of people who’ve experienced it. It only faces any sort of negativity in hardcore Disney fandom spaces which even that I find a bit strange considering it had a rather positive or at least acceptable response in those spaces when it opened.

I just think generally we need to let people like what they like and say that they like it without having to be talked to like they’re either dumb or a shill for liking it. Absolutely share why you don’t, that’s the great thing about these sorts of places, but we don’t have to talk down on those we disagree with.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
But why though if it’s an enjoyable attraction that is quite fun for me and my family to go through?

I can fully understand if your personal preference is that you don’t enjoy it. There’s stuff at the parks I just do not enjoy. But I can’t say that someone else enjoying it is dying on any sort of hill as if liking it is an objectively incorrect assessment.

It’s very well liked by the majority of people who’ve experienced it. It only faces any sort of negativity in hardcore Disney fandom spaces which even that I find a bit strange considering it had a rather positive or at least acceptable response in those spaces when it opened.

I just think generally we need to let people like what they like and say that they like it without having to be talked to like they’re either dumb or a shill for liking it. Absolutely share why you don’t, that’s the great thing about these sorts of places, but we don’t have to talk down on those we disagree with.
If you enjoy it…great.

Disney needs to do better in its parks - however - especially Epcot.

To each their own
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Dude no point in arguing. Most people love it, some don't, that's just how it is. I also agree some people that dislike things base their entire identity on telling people they're wrong.
Dude…”most people love it” is what people tell themselves in bobs echo chamber everyday

It really seems out of place…that aside it’s ok.

But there’s really nobody in the damn thing…how often are you in that path?
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
Dude…”most people love it” is what people tell themselves in bobs echo chamber everyday

It really seems out of place…that aside it’s ok.

But there’s really nobody in the damn thing…how often are you in that path?
When have you seen nobody in the damn thing? Every time I’ve been there it’s been packed.

And it’s not out of place at all.
 

peng

Well-Known Member
When have you seen nobody in the damn thing? Every time I’ve been there it’s been packed.

And it’s not out of place at all.
It hasn't been packed from what I have seen (though there were a lot of guests the times I did it), but its not out of place with how greenery heavy the front of the land formerly known as future world is (it also feels very old school Disney, mostly how in the practicalness and the edutainment stuff sprinkled in). Its biggest problem is finding it, it was unclear how to reach it with all the workwalls and the like and the way to get to it wasn't that obvious. Besides, walkthrough attractions are cool
 

MickeyLuv'r

Well-Known Member
What I like is that it has a high level of interaction. I think it fits because it is lot like the Imagination water fountains only taken to the next level.

Disney needs more stuff like this. I have long said they need more things that are not e-rides, but are a fun way to spend a few minutes. I really wish they had updated the shooting arcade, for example, because it fell in the same range. It was in need of updating, but it had a similar interactive aspect.

I'd like to see more of this technology in general, like more interactive water fountains and more things like the butterflies in the PPan queue.
 

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