News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom

[DisneyDodo]

"Desert land" doesn't make sense. Yes, Big Thunder and Radiator Springs have the same landscape but they do not fit together at all.

I don’t necessarily believe this is happening, but I also don’t think it would be so far-fetched for Disney to retheme a land based on western expansion in the U.S. to one just themed to the western U.S. with no ties to any particular time period. I definitely prefer that approach to them scrapping Frontierland entirely and replacing it with various single IP lands.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Brayden has reported the following, again and I have stressed this before but no one seems to read it. I am not saying Brayden is credible I’m just posting this here as he has gotten things right in the past.

- Frontierland gone turned into Bayou
- Bayou desert land features Raditaor Springs Racers
- Tom Sayer Island Woody Roundup Attraction
- Villians Land behind Haunted Mansion with at least 1 e ticket and 1 d ticket
- Country Bears opening in August
- Rivers of America on the chopping block
- Railroad will be effected in some way
- Haunted Mansion Restaurant cancelled
- Big Thunder Mountain worked into the new desert land

Some of this seems plausible.

These have all been mentioned before as possibilities by our insiders -- except a "bayou desert land" (??!!??)

Anyhoo, we know execs were casing out Pecos Bill.

Lotta ingredients here... don't know which ones will make it into the pot.

 

[doctornick]

I think Cars for WDW is true... but I believe that'll be for DHS as the "major" addition.

I really hope. It would be a good option for the current Animation building plot (and backstage in that area).

 

[Surferboy567]

These have all been mentioned before as possibilities by our insiders -- except a "bayou desert land" (??!!??)

Anyhoo, we know execs were casing out Pecos Bill.

Lotta ingredients here... don't know which ones will make it into the pot.

I wrote that wrong I corrected it.

The bayou and desert are two separate things.

 

[MaximumEd]

I don’t know what all will end up happening at all the parks, but I’m here for the rumors. This is exciting.

 

[Surferboy567]

I don’t know what all will end up happening at all the parks, but I’m here for the rumors. This is exciting.

Very exciting time indeed, it’s been a while since I’ve been this excited for the future of the parks. I’ve been excited but no rumors to latch onto.

 

[DisneyDodo]

I wrote that wrong I corrected it.

The bayou and desert are two separate things.

Well thank goodness, because I’m pretty sure the bayou’s wetness and the desert’s dryness would have just canceled each other out, leaving us with Moderate Boring Land

 

[Ichabod Crane]

So is he claiming that the southern half of Frontierland will become New Orleans Square?

Yeah he’s claiming eastern Frontierland up to country bears I think becomes Liberty square and everything by TBA becomes New Orleans. Then Big Thunder becomes part of a dessert land with Radiator Springs and Woody. Then the rest/most of the space is for villains. He also claims rovers of America will be shortened or removed entirely.

 

[PREMiERdrum]

Re: "Bayou Desert Land" (face hits desk)

Expect a little carveout for current Pecos, TBA, and a couple related structures to be grouped into an east coast New Orleans Square. The boardwalk across from CBJ to BTMRR will remain Frontierland, giving them (on the map at least) an uninterrupted flow, with NOS abutting and transitioning from AL directly.

 

[J4546]

Radiator Springs behind BTMRR is one of the worst ideas I've ever heard. The thought of seeing those cars with cartoon faces on them while you ride the riverboat...

wouldnt see them from reiverboat probably. River will be shortened Im guessing.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Re: "Bayou Desert Land" (face hits desk)

Expect a little carveout for current Pecos, TBA, and a couple related structures to be grouped into an east coast New Orleans Square. The boardwalk across from CBJ to BTMRR will remain Frontierland, giving them (on the map at least) an uninterrupted flow, with NOS abutting and transitioning from AL directly.

Wouldn't the Boardwalk be removed since RoA is "on the chopping block"?

 

[peng]

Re: "Bayou Desert Land" (face hits desk)

Expect a little carveout for current Pecos, TBA, and a couple related structures to be grouped into an east coast New Orleans Square. The boardwalk across from CBJ to BTMRR will remain Frontierland, giving them (on the map at least) an uninterrupted flow, with NOS abutting and transitioning from AL directly.

That's what's probably happening as opposed to Lights, Camera Brayden's "frontierland is going away for stuff that was rumored in 2015." Besides there's a lot more smoke to Coco still coming to MK (hell the only things he probably got right were the railroad closing again and the Villains land being early in development). ROA will probably be shortened but will probably not disappear entirely. Besides, why would disney spend money to retheme the boardwalk area when it would be cheaper to keep it as is.

 

[Brer Oswald]

Ugh

 

[PREMiERdrum]

Wouldn't the Boardwalk be removed since RoA is "on the chopping block"?

ROA will probably be shortened but will probably not disappear entirely.

I'm just a guy on the internet.

 

[FigmentFan82]

If that happens it will be quite frustrating that we have a Moana Adventureland style walk through at Epcot.

I really can’t stand modern Disney plopping down IP wherever they want with no thought on the future.

Except it's not an adventureland style walkthrough, nor does it claim to be any adventurous, but rather the cycle of water - edutainment.

 

[TalkingHead]

If Cars Land is considered for WDW, it should go in DHS.

Cars is a pretty terrible fit for MK even if the aesthetics might be reasonable next to Frontierland. Coco is a far better option.

Why is Cars a bad fit for MK?

 

[Sectorkeeper71]

Oh…one of my favorites

The “canal plan” from Caribbean past the new Brazil pavilion

I remember seeing concept art from back around the parks conception of them having a second lagoon behind the current WS lagoon for future country pavilions.

Which is wild on a lot of levels, chief among them that they thought there’d be that much interest from countries to warrant that expansion

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Except it's not an adventureland style walkthrough

It definitely looks like it was designed for Adventureland or DAK to me! But maybe that’s just me haha

 

[DisneyDodo]

Wouldn't the Boardwalk be removed since RoA is "on the chopping block"?

Come to think of it, if they’re going to temporarily drain the river in order to shorten it on the other side, they should just replace the boardwalk with a proper pathway from CBJ straight over towards BTMR, with an outlet to the new NOS so the lands could at least feel like distinct entities.

I hate the idea of having a NOS jutting out into Frontierland (with a little bridge you can use to technically bypass NOS if you want to). It defeats the purpose of having lands if the organization is not visually apparent. It’s like FW, which is now technically partitioned into 3 neighborhoods, but you would never know if you didn’t look at the map.

 

[TalkingHead]

Wonder why a modified Carsland or at least the ride wasn’t considered for the Frontierland expansion. Because of the Lassiter associations? Seems like an obvious fit otherwise.

As I asked several days ago. Proven franchise, successful E-ticket, desert setting, can be modified to fit area.