Thanks, with point 2, if it is the time to the ride vehicle, some of the new attractions with long pre-shows might be skewing the data for G+ vs FP+. Still amazing that you have data to go back to when a new question pops up!
Okay then extremely odd agreed
Agreed. IMO it's so much abuse but with Genie+ costing money more people that were eligible for DAS are using it than when FP+ was around.
Exactly and i would love to know how many people who have DAS still buy Genie+ and ILL. I know i do and everyone else i know does as well granted my sample size is small but they are still getting my money. Sadly i admit that
It's probably a lot that do. I'd imagine with FP+ many didn't have DAS as well. They are in a pickle right now. The only solution is to get the number of guests using the system down.
Or solve the problem by simply adding more capacity more park hours proper staffing more entertainment a night parade just to name a few…. And again this PR “nightmare” should be NON existent because anyone who legit needs DAS for whatever reason should EMBRACE Disney looking to potentially crack down. Im sick of the entire privacy bs that we live by. Im sorry if you need DAS you should have to prove it in some way shape or form and should NOT be offended by doing so in a one on one Zoom call or in person at city hall & if you want privacy im sure Disney would provide it…
I wasn't talking about PR nightmare necessarily for DAS. Raising the price of Genie+ to price people out so less use it would help too. They do that than those people will stop going. We all know new attractions aren't coming any time soon.
Do you really believe there is a number that will “price” people out? I personally do not and when it does all that happens is those people are now in the regular line
Let’s be honest, DAS isn’t “free genie+,” DAS is significantly superior to Genie+. You can grab any ride you want, including the ILL$, and it’s not based on whether they have distributed the passes for the day. I don’t understand why Disney felt the need to add 3 ride preselects **on top of** the regular return times, that’s just insanity to me, and has to be driving some of the LL saturation we are seeing.
I mean, they could avoid the PR nightmare entirely by just bringing back a free fastpass system, but of course they would never do that.
Well, they can't now. Wall street would throw a tantrum.
I believe there is but what they’ve created now and for some of those who get priced out of paying for G+ will just decide it isn’t worth going to wdw at all then. We are already starting to see some of that.
It’s been interesting to witness the swell of nostalgia for FP+, which, only a couple of years ago, few posters here had anything kind to say about.
From the frontlines, it appears to me that the prolonged downturn in their package bookings is more in the reduced benefits and increased hassle than the price gouging alone. They used to be able to balance above-market pricing with enough benefits and extras to allow their guests to justify the expense. These diehards were great ambassadors and were able to help maintain the aspirational nature of a Poly or GF vacation, which made others feel better putting their own WDW vacation on that 28.9% credit card.
Who would have thunk that ticking off your most loyal guests would have consequences? Word of mouth goes a long way.
Well i agree and thats another animal altogether … what is still to me baffling is i was there Thanksgiving week & it was crowded not crazy but crowded & i had tremendous success with Genie. I hate to
