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News Soarin' Over California returning to EPCOT for a limited time
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JohnD
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I'm going with a family of 3 in March. I was hoping they could see the original. Oh well.
Seems odd to make the change on a Wednesday, but whatever. We get to experience the original, and superior, version.
My eyes may produce water when I hear that opening note. Not tears, water. Big difference.
trainplane3
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It was fun while it lasted. Soarin' goes back on the skip list now. This should definitely be a seasonal thing at a minimum.
I don't think there's ever been a better track of music in WDW, and of course never remove Patrick from pre show, ''Nice work pal ''
If it's not the best single track created for a WDW ride since 1984, it's certainly up near the top. That opening chord instantly places me in the theater.
Tha Realest
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It is as good as any of the timeless movie scores, and stands beside Pirates and Haunted Mansion as the greatest of all time.
Well that sucks - I was literally loaded to ride it last December when it broke down while my wife watched the kids who were too little (she rode before me). We didn't make it back to EPCOT that trip so I never got to ride and was hoping it would stay the Cali version until out next trip. Now I'm super bummed.
JohnD
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The reason that score is so great is that it is obvious that Goldsmith was presented with a final movie and wrote his score to match as a cohesive whole. The score for SATW had to do the same but is an obvious patchwork of Goldsmith's original score and other scenes so it doesn't come across as an independent score in its own merits.
JohnD
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I agree the original soundtrack is a masterpiece. Here's the problem. Goldsmith wrote his score to match the original scenes precisely. The original soundtrack wouldn't match against SATW scenes and would be awkward, no matter how wonderful that score is.
gorillaball
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3 screens, 2 shows. Come on WDW, let's make this work the way it should be. Orange and Green Mission Space... see it's not that hard.
ChrisFL
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Possibly some people are also more aware of visuals and how CGI looks when having seen tons of CGI content in movies, games etc........or watched a bunch of Corridor Crew videos, which makes me wonder if any of them have seen it
The Taj Mahal part was so egregious the first time I saw it, I thought we might get a "Powered by Unreal Engine" logo at the end of the ride.
Brian
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The difference is that there is not sufficient space to support an additional stand-by and lightning lane queue for separate experiences.
First day of Flower and Garden Festival.
SATW also re-orchestrated the score so that the music matched the part of the world you're currently in. Sorta like what IaSW does. Which, IMO, is a bonus.
My hot take: Both movies need to be updated.
Both have bendy issues (SAtW obviously more so). And both have parts where the forward motion doesn't match the view (camera looks sideways), which is disorienting.
SoC has graininess and weird fast-mo parts. Some of the sights are boring (golf course). And a naval port isn't exactly "Living with the Land." And the mechanical camera adjustments are too obvious.
SatW has some obvious CGI issues.
And both need to decide whether its about the natural wonders of the land or the wonders of human artifices. Mixing both in is odd.
And I guess there is nothing to be done to fix the conceit that we're hang-gliding over hundreds or thousands of miles and taking off from an airport -- in order to hang-glide.
But I'm just a pixie-snorting shill who always defends everything Disney does. So, what do I know?
Tha Realest
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I saw somewhere it returns to DCA on 3/1
Tha Realest
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I don’t disagree. I think they could do some great stuff with the new drone tech. I *think* 8K is close to IMAX in terms of resolution?
Both Epcot and DCA can lean into the airport theming. Different lines for different shows. They already have multiple theaters as it is.
I don't see that.
Here's the super wide queues for Stand-by and LL.
However, they do narrow. The question is can they narrow down into four lines?
Here is the one side, which pinches people down from a very wide queue to just side-by-side. It has railing that comes out of nowhere to do the pinching. It and that trashcan can move. This would create two LL lanes: one for show A and one for show B.
And this side has no pinching at all, it stays very wide. Easy to create a line for show A and one for show B.
zeebs758
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NOOOOOOOO! I was really hoping to ride this on my upcoming trip in 2 weeks. What a bummer.
Brian
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There isn't sufficient room to create completely separate queues while maintaining adequate room for guests in mobility devices. It would be too tight. It would also create lesser capacity in the stand by queue, leading to potential backlogs into the "lobby" area.
They can, in theory, pull it off at the existing merge point (LL and Standby), where it branches off into the three concourses, however, that would compromise the standby wait time calculation, as well as potentially lengthen the wait time for LL guests beyond what is considered acceptable, as one experience may be more popular than the other.