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News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom

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TheIceBaron

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Bear with me because this is quite left field speculation.

If we think of the point of view of a Disney exec they want to maximize guest spending at the most popular park on the planet. So they likely want to go big with this expansion. The new expansion would have multiple paid lightning lane attractions, shops, food locations, meet and greets etc.

If it’s a mystery IP that doesn’t fit well in Magic Kingdom, but could potentially be quite the draw and check boxes for a massive land then it’s probably not the traditional Disney or Pixar animation franchises. Which would make me think Lucasfilm or Marvel or even Fox owned franchises would be there.

Except that Star Wars and Marvel have had quite a few studios misses recently and already have their own dedicated areas. So what property could fit? Lord of the Rings.

But Disney doesn’t own Lord of the Rings! Ah yes my dear reader they do not. But Warner Bros is desperate for cash and has not been doing well. Disney also announced a partnership with Warner Bros with respect to streaming rights this week. With the new lord of the rings movies down the pipeline and past Disney efforts to acquire the property, this could make sense. The possibilities of a lord of the rings land would be endless and could possibly give Universal quite the run for its money.

I know wild speculation but maybe it’s a bold move to reinvigorate the Walt Disney company with yet another merger or at least partnership and this is one of the pieces of the puzzle. I would still reserve this for a dark horse speculation however.
 
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Fox&Hound

Fox&Hound

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TheIceBaron said:
Bear with me because this is quite left field speculation.

If we think of the point of view of a Disney exec they want to maximize guest spending at the most popular park on the planet. So they likely want to go big with this expansion. The new expansion would have multiple paid lightning lane attractions, shops, food locations, meet and greets etc.

If it’s a mystery IP that doesn’t fit well in Magic Kingdom, but could potentially be quite the draw and check boxes for a massive land then it’s probably not the traditional Disney or Pixar animation franchises. Which would make me think Lucasfilm or Marvel or even Fox owned franchises would be there.

Except that Star Wars and Marvel have had quite a few studios misses recently and already have their own dedicated areas. So what property could fit? Lord of the Rings.

But Disney doesn’t own Lord of the Rings! Ah yes my dear reader they do not. But Warner Bros is desperate for cash and has not been doing well. Disney also announced a partnership with Warner Bros with respect to streaming rights this week. With the new lord of the rings movies down the pipeline and past Disney efforts to acquire the property, this could make sense. The possibilities of a lord of the rings land would be endless and could possibly give Universal quite the run for its money.

I know wild speculation but maybe it’s a bold move to reinvigorate the Walt Disney company with yet another merger or at least partnership and this is one of the pieces of the puzzle. I would still reserve this for a dark horse speculation however.
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At MK? Oh I hope not. DHS maybe but still seems like a huge stretch.

I really want villains but at DHS! I bet Carsland comes to MK. Has zootopialand been a success so far?
 
Stupido

Stupido

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If we're throwing out random guesses for ridiculous IP's that will never happen, let me throw in Kingdom Hearts. It has enough ties to different princesses that it could work in a castle park, while still reaching an older demographic to possibly get a couple of thrill rides into MK. Could also segue into a villains land, as Disney villains have had a huge role in the series. Plus if Universal is tripling down on video game IPs with Mario, Zelda, and Pokémon, why not join the video game scene?

Plus I've seen more and more guests wearing kingdom hearts merch in the parks, sometimes even full cosplays.

Fun to dream about 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Rosso11

Rosso11

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TheIceBaron said:
Bear with me because this is quite left field speculation.

If we think of the point of view of a Disney exec they want to maximize guest spending at the most popular park on the planet. So they likely want to go big with this expansion. The new expansion would have multiple paid lightning lane attractions, shops, food locations, meet and greets etc.

If it’s a mystery IP that doesn’t fit well in Magic Kingdom, but could potentially be quite the draw and check boxes for a massive land then it’s probably not the traditional Disney or Pixar animation franchises. Which would make me think Lucasfilm or Marvel or even Fox owned franchises would be there.

Except that Star Wars and Marvel have had quite a few studios misses recently and already have their own dedicated areas. So what property could fit? Lord of the Rings.

But Disney doesn’t own Lord of the Rings! Ah yes my dear reader they do not. But Warner Bros is desperate for cash and has not been doing well. Disney also announced a partnership with Warner Bros with respect to streaming rights this week. With the new lord of the rings movies down the pipeline and past Disney efforts to acquire the property, this could make sense. The possibilities of a lord of the rings land would be endless and could possibly give Universal quite the run for its money.

I know wild speculation but maybe it’s a bold move to reinvigorate the Walt Disney company with yet another merger or at least partnership and this is one of the pieces of the puzzle. I would still reserve this for a dark horse speculation however.
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It’s an interesting theory. At this time Warner Brothers does not own the theme park rights. Embracer Group does who actually bought them last year when they purchased most of the Tolkien rights. But, Embracer bought them for the video game rights which is why they quickly made a deal with Warner Brothers for them to make future movies. With Embracer now holding the Theme Park rights and not in the theme park business I would be surprised if they weren’t sold to someone soon. So you might be on to something. I still think it’s going to wind up at Universal but more than likely the theme park rights are in play at the moment. However you are right in the fact that If anyone wants to use the WB version of characters in their parks I’m sure they would have to bring in WB as well and make a three way deal. So it will be interesting to see how this plays out. It’s a lot of moving parts with these rights.
 
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Rosso11

Rosso11

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imagineer97 said:
Hmmm...just occurred to me, what about Wakanda? I don't want it there, but it certainly fits the bill of not fitting MK at all.
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I think this is the most likely IP if this all turns out to be true. I wouldn’t like it but I can absolutely see Iger pushing for it.

Edit: Ah that’s right Black Panther himself can’t be used since he is represented at Universal. Wakanda without Black Panther would be pretty dumb. So dumb Iger would probably do it.
 
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Starship824

Starship824

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TheIceBaron said:
Bear with me because this is quite left field speculation.

If we think of the point of view of a Disney exec they want to maximize guest spending at the most popular park on the planet. So they likely want to go big with this expansion. The new expansion would have multiple paid lightning lane attractions, shops, food locations, meet and greets etc.

If it’s a mystery IP that doesn’t fit well in Magic Kingdom, but could potentially be quite the draw and check boxes for a massive land then it’s probably not the traditional Disney or Pixar animation franchises. Which would make me think Lucasfilm or Marvel or even Fox owned franchises would be there.

Except that Star Wars and Marvel have had quite a few studios misses recently and already have their own dedicated areas. So what property could fit? Lord of the Rings.

But Disney doesn’t own Lord of the Rings! Ah yes my dear reader they do not. But Warner Bros is desperate for cash and has not been doing well. Disney also announced a partnership with Warner Bros with respect to streaming rights this week. With the new lord of the rings movies down the pipeline and past Disney efforts to acquire the property, this could make sense. The possibilities of a lord of the rings land would be endless and could possibly give Universal quite the run for its money.

I know wild speculation but maybe it’s a bold move to reinvigorate the Walt Disney company with yet another merger or at least partnership and this is one of the pieces of the puzzle. I would still reserve this for a dark horse speculation however.
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I mean this is extraordinary unlikely but never say never I guess? Although this would incredible and I'd be 100% down for it but yeah, that's never gonna happen lol.
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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Disney owns TONS of IP....all Disney created... I don't understand why they would even consider adding completely non-Disney created IP to the theme parks...Simpsons, Lord Of The Rings, etc... There is enough true Disney content for hundreds of new attractions that are being ignored for thing that don't seem to fit....
 
Rosso11

Rosso11

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Bocabear said:
Disney owns TONS of IP....all Disney created... I don't understand why they would even consider adding completely non-Disney created IP to the theme parks...Simpsons, Lord Of The Rings, etc... There is enough true Disney content for hundreds of new attractions that are being ignored for thing that don't seem to fit....
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I agree with you but they could look at it as a defensive move. Especially with the very few big IPs that are left such as Lord of the Rings. They would rather get it than make the same mistake they did with Harry Potter and let it go to Universal. Imagine universal does get the rights and they open their new park in England with full fledged Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings lands. I would be very nervous for Disneyland Paris.
 
whiterhino42

whiterhino42

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neo999955 said:
I am genuinely shocked that Little Mermaid was initially conceived to be an E-ticket. To me, it's a C ticket that's less exciting that Peter Pan, Winnie, etc.

They must have known early on what they were building right? I hadn't been to Disney yet when this was announced/being built. Was the marketing/hype really overblown?
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I love Winnie. I like Peter Pan. Mermaid is a snooze fest.
 
whiterhino42

whiterhino42

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Sectorkeeper71 said:
Would also be kinda weird to have two water rides next to each other on the same side of the park.

Though in theory I’d love something like GRR at WDW somewhere. Kali is so short and pales on comparison to GRR and Popeyes at universal
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Rapid rides are ny favorite and Kali is terrible. It's so quick...it's like get on get soaked get off.
 
whiterhino42

whiterhino42

Active Member
TheIceBaron said:
Bear with me because this is quite left field speculation.

If we think of the point of view of a Disney exec they want to maximize guest spending at the most popular park on the planet. So they likely want to go big with this expansion. The new expansion would have multiple paid lightning lane attractions, shops, food locations, meet and greets etc.

If it’s a mystery IP that doesn’t fit well in Magic Kingdom, but could potentially be quite the draw and check boxes for a massive land then it’s probably not the traditional Disney or Pixar animation franchises. Which would make me think Lucasfilm or Marvel or even Fox owned franchises would be there.

Except that Star Wars and Marvel have had quite a few studios misses recently and already have their own dedicated areas. So what property could fit? Lord of the Rings.

But Disney doesn’t own Lord of the Rings! Ah yes my dear reader they do not. But Warner Bros is desperate for cash and has not been doing well. Disney also announced a partnership with Warner Bros with respect to streaming rights this week. With the new lord of the rings movies down the pipeline and past Disney efforts to acquire the property, this could make sense. The possibilities of a lord of the rings land would be endless and could possibly give Universal quite the run for its money.

I know wild speculation but maybe it’s a bold move to reinvigorate the Walt Disney company with yet another merger or at least partnership and this is one of the pieces of the puzzle. I would still reserve this for a dark horse speculation however.
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Just no to Lord of the Rings
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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Rosso11 said:
I agree with you but they could look at it as a defensive move. Especially with the very few big IPs that are left such as Lord of the Rings. They would rather get it than make the same mistake they did with Harry Potter and let it go to Universal. Imagine universal does get the rights and they open their new park in England with full fledged Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings lands. I would be very nervous for Disneyland Paris.
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While all this IP grab is going on, the most exciting thing Universal is doing with Epic Universe is going back to their old IP and doing a Classic Universal Monsters land...All nostalgia...The only way they are going to counter that (if they care to) is for Disney to create a true Disney Villains land...If done well, It would probably be the most popular of the new additions to the parks they have ever done...But they would have to really do it the right way with multiple attractions, Spectacular settings, added dining and retail...It could be amazing and all Disney created content...Villains are in every Disney movie ever made, so you would have fans of the old and more recent villains... A whole Dark Kingdom...
 

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