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[Lilofan]

I'd be shocked if they didn't have some outside counsel assistance. It's pretty rare for large corporations to handle anything like this entirely in-house (I wouldn't have a job if they did!).

Yea but does outside counsel get complimentary passes for them and family to the theme parks?

 

[kong1802]

States provide and remove privileges, benefits and incentives from companies because they agree/disagree with them all the time. Government, after all, picks winners and losers, and Disney receiving a benefit is a de facto punishment against its competitors. This benefit/privilege may have been wise when the land was undeveloped, but today it's a lot harder to justify.

I previously tried to provide some examples of CA removing benefits and privileges from companies/people they disagree with, but I seemed to have run into a word filter and the post was filtered.

Regardless, Florida is perfectly within its right to elect representatives and leaders that will remove privileges from companies when the voters don't like what they are doing. It's no different from government creating a benefit for solar panel makers or punishing an oil company. They did not try to place Disney below any other company, only remove some privileges they no longer want to offer a company that goes against the values of their voters.

That's funny, I don't recall seeing any of this on a ballot...

 

[Spokker]

That's funny, I don't recall seeing any of this on a ballot...

The guy who decided to fight with Disney was re-elected in a landslide. He has a voter mandate to enact his agenda, including fighting with Disney.

 

[kong1802]

The guy who decided to fight with Disney was re-elected in a landslide. He has a voter mandate to enact his agenda, including fighting with Disney.

Hmmm, that's funny. I don't recall fighting Disney as one of his platform items.

 

[kong1802]

I'm excited that one of my favorite shows the Crown and one of my favorite places WDW will finally have a crossover episode.

Will it be on Disney +?

 

[Chi84]

States provide and remove privileges, benefits and incentives from companies because they agree/disagree with them all the time. Government, after all, picks winners and losers, and Disney receiving a benefit is a de facto punishment against its competitors. This benefit/privilege may have been wise when the land was undeveloped, but today it's a lot harder to justify.

I previously tried to provide some examples of CA removing benefits and privileges from companies/people they disagree with, but I seemed to have run into a word filter and the post was filtered.

Regardless, Florida is perfectly within its right to elect representatives and leaders that will remove privileges from companies when the voters don't like what they are doing. It's no different from government creating a benefit for solar panel makers or punishing an oil company. They did not try to place Disney below any other company, only remove some privileges they no longer want to offer a company that goes against the values of their voters.

Then maybe they should elect representatives who can actually do those things without trampling on a valid exercise of constitutional rights.

Edit: Or in light of today’s news maybe I should have stopped after “can actually do those things”

 

[lazyboy97o]

If Disney ejected themselves from RCID does that mean they are now under the purview of the local governments and their codes and permitting systems? If so they may have jumped out of the skillet and right into the fire.

That is not what happened.

 

[lazyboy97o]

States provide and remove privileges, benefits and incentives from companies because they agree/disagree with them all the time. Government, after all, picks winners and losers, and Disney receiving a benefit is a de facto punishment against its competitors. This benefit/privilege may have been wise when the land was undeveloped, but today it's a lot harder to justify.

I previously tried to provide some examples of CA removing benefits and privileges from companies/people they disagree with, but I seemed to have run into a word filter and the post was filtered.

Regardless, Florida is perfectly within its right to elect representatives and leaders that will remove privileges from companies when the voters don't like what they are doing. It's no different from government creating a benefit for solar panel makers or punishing an oil company. They did not try to place Disney below any other company, only remove some privileges they no longer want to offer a company that goes against the values of their voters.

What privileges were removed that goes against the values of the voters? Why were these privileges not taken from others?

 

[GimpYancIent]

That is not what happened.

Something fell into the fire and now there is a nasty flare up. A lot of legal smoke right now. As usual the legal resolution will not resemble any of the hoped for results expressed in this thread. I am curious to see how long this takes to resolve and what that resolution will look like. The attorneys are in no rush.

 

[kong1802]

I'm a little bummed now that the plot of the upcoming Descendants 4 has been leaked.

 

[kong1802]

Something fell into the fire and now there is a nasty flare up. A lot of legal smoke right now. As usual the legal resolution will not resemble any of the hoped for results expressed in this thread. I am curious to see how long this takes to resolve and what that resolution will look like. The attorneys are in no rush.

At 1300 hr why would they be?

 

[BaconPancakes]

What "values" are we talking about?

 

[kong1802]

What "values" are we talking about?

You already know.... unfortunately.

 

[BaconPancakes]

And now it's crystal clear who is allowed to talk politics here and who isn't...

 

[flynnibus]

I was waiting for the groundhog day reset.. .and it finally came!

 

[Dranth]

The guy who decided to fight with Disney was re-elected in a landslide. He has a voter mandate to enact his agenda, including fighting with Disney.

Only within the rules set forth by law and the state/federal constitution. There is no special provision that allows you to just ignore existing law if you won by a certain amount of votes.

From what we know so far, it looks like what Disney did was entirely legal. That seems to narrow the state’s current options to either try and change the laws again to work around what Disney did or go to court and try and prove what Disney did is either illegal or somehow damaging in a way the state has to break a legally binding contract.

 

[BaconPancakes]

You already know.... unfortunately.

Oh yes, just the same as how they can't define what "woke" means either.

 

[Lilofan]

That is an average....

What about the hordes of Disney lawyers in the cube farm making $85K /year working on lawsuits on slip and falls generated by the slippery floors in Cosmic Ray's... With Morgan & Morgan their opposition.

They balance out the $500K lawyers working on iron clad contracts with talent that Disney is hiring for their shows and movies.

$85K for a lawyer ? You can be an attractions mechanic fixing the broken Tower of Terror , Coaster and with OT earn $75-80K per year, high school diploma , and get accepted to WDW Engineering trade program for several years before earning the bigger paycheck.

 

[V.i.n.c.e.n.t.]

I just wanted to take a moment to share my thoughts on the recent legal move that Disney made against DeSantis. It's the football equivalent of intercepting a pass thrown by DeSantis, running 80 yards to score a touchdown, and then performing a 30-second full team dance in the end zone, followed by making out with DeSantis' wife on the jumbotron.

First off, I have to say that I'm truly impressed by Disney's legal team. They've managed to find a way to take DeSantis down a notch and come out on top. It's not every day that you see a company play such a strategic game and dominate the field like this.

The interception represents Disney's ability to take advantage of DeSantis' weak defense. It's a bold move that showcases their determination to fight back against any obstacles that are thrown their way.

Running 80 yards for a touchdown signifies Disney's commitment to their cause and their relentless pursuit of victory. It's not an easy feat, but they've proven that they have the skill and stamina to go the distance.

The 30-second full team dance in the end zone is a celebration of Disney's triumph. It's a moment of camaraderie and unity among the players, who are all in it together. This victory dance is a way for the team to revel in their success and make a statement that they're not to be underestimated.

Finally, making out with DeSantis' wife on the jumbotron is the ultimate show of dominance. It's a metaphorical way of saying that not only has Disney won this round, but they've also taken everything from their opponent, leaving them with nothing.

I know this analogy might be a bit over the top, but I couldn't help but draw parallels between the legal maneuvering and the excitement of a football game. I

 

[bpiper]

Time stamps show not posted until March 6. View attachment 707489

Hmmm.

So the important ones were posted well after the meetings. Doesn't let the sunshine shine into those documents too well.

Held back deliberately? or RCID signed first and then Disney had too.

Interesting that it was just the agenda's, which usually don't say much until the 1-25 meeting, then its called a "Package". Did you download and look at what the package included?