EPCOT Space 220 Restaurant dining experience at Epcot's Future World

matt9112

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For dining reservations, there truly is unprecedented demand.

Who would have thought you should expand dining capacity at or near the same rate of increased attendance over the last decade...not to mention underutilized dining capacity at some of the mediocre quick serves. You would think the busiest theme park resort in the world would have some of the largest restaurants on earth....
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Who would have thought you should expand dining capacity at or near the same rate of increased attendance over the last decade...not to mention underutilized dining capacity at some of the mediocre quick serves. You would think the busiest theme park resort in the world would have some of the largest restaurants on earth....
The new shinies almost always have extraordinary demand precisely because it's new. FEA doesn't have constant 2 hour waits anymore like it did for its first two years. FoP doesn't have 5 hours lines anymore.

The new shiny usually takes the heat off of the last new shiny. Maybe Be Our Guest or Cinderella's Royal Table or some other high-demand restauraunt won't be in such high demand now that people are splurging on 220.
 

matt9112

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The new shinies almost always have extraordinary demand precisely because it's new. FEA doesn't have constant 2 hour waits anymore like it did for its first two years. FoP doesn't have 5 hours lines anymore.

The new shiny usually takes the heat off of the last new shiny. Maybe Be Our Guest or Cinderella's Royal Table or some other high-demand restauraunt won't be in such high demand now that people are splurging on 220.

I agree normally however i dont see that happening here? Is BOG easy to get now? I wish every dining location was amazing and worth the money. This wouldn't be an issue. Look at coral reef for example. The theme is great imho but yeah the food? They really should pound excellence into there establishments at the price points there charging. Or do we just say eh its disney so expensive is ok screw the quality?
 

ToTBellHop

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I agree normally however i dont see that happening here? Is BOG easy to get now? I wish every dining location was amazing and worth the money. This wouldn't be an issue. Look at coral reef for example. The theme is great imho but yeah the food? They really should pound excellence into there establishments at the price points there charging. Or do we just say eh its disney so expensive is ok screw the quality?
BoG reservations are far easier to come by now. CRT will always be difficult because it's small and in the castle.
 

The Colonel

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I managed to snag a reservation using MouseWatchers (I guess if I'm not allowed to mention it, they'll take it down). The food was good by Disney standards, but ridiculously over-priced as expected. I thought they cheaped-out (or Cheapeked-out) on the effects. The fish at Coral Reef are much more interesting. But something new you have to try at least once.
 

UNCgolf

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The new shiny usually takes the heat off of the last new shiny. Maybe Be Our Guest or Cinderella's Royal Table or some other high-demand restauraunt won't be in such high demand now that people are splurging on 220.

I don't think that works for restaurants because there's not enough dining capacity in general (especially inside the parks, a lot of guests wouldn't even think about going to a hotel to eat) compared to attendance increases. It's sometimes hard to find a reservation at even mediocre to bad restaurants.

That's an argument to build more restaurants, although I agree that it still wouldn't help with the current demand at Space 220. People are always going to want to try the newest thing.
 

MickeyLuv'r

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I don't think that works for restaurants because there's not enough dining capacity in general (especially inside the parks, a lot of guests wouldn't even think about going to a hotel to eat) compared to attendance increases. It's sometimes hard to find a reservation at even mediocre to bad restaurants.

That's an argument to build more restaurants, although I agree that it still wouldn't help with the current demand at Space 220. People are always going to want to try the newest thing.
There's a fair amount of availability currently in Epcot. I agree MK is in need of more dining capacity, but I'd also say Contemporary and Poly are quite close to MK. It sounds a little whiny to say that hopping on the monorail is too hard.

now, taking a boat from MK to WL though can eat up close to an hour, so IMO, losing an hour of park time could easily = more than $50 for a family. Mid-March, a 4-day base ticket costs almost $130/day. If a family plans to be in MK for 11 hours (9am-8pm), that's $11.72 per person per hour. For a family of 5, losing an hour of park time costs about $60. ($58.60)

Then again, if they are choosing a table service meal during park hours, they are losing over an hour, even if they eat in the park. Not only are they paying about $30 more per adult (over QS), but the meal also costs extra park time (over choosing to eat a QS meal, or just snacking).

but most people don't really think about park touring that way...
 

Horizons '83

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There's a fair amount of availability currently in Epcot. I agree MK is in need of more dining capacity, but I'd also say Contemporary and Poly are quite close to MK. It sounds a little whiny to say that hopping on the monorail is too hard.

now, taking a boat from MK to WL though can eat up close to an hour, so IMO, losing an hour of park time could easily = more than $50 for a family. Mid-March, a 4-day base ticket costs almost $130/day. If a family plans to be in MK for 11 hours (9am-8pm), that's $11.72 per person per hour. For a family of 5, losing an hour of park time costs about $60. ($58.60)

Then again, if they are choosing a table service meal during park hours, they are losing over an hour, even if they eat in the park. Not only are they paying about $30 more per adult (over QS), but the meal also costs extra park time (over choosing to eat a QS meal, or just snacking).

but most people don't really think about park touring that way...
Next weeks availability at Epcot, particularly Friday, is scarce. No Dinner reservations to be had at the moment, and only one rose and crown reservation at 3:00 for lunch haha
 

WDWTrojan

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Finally tried this for dinner. Found it to be nicely presented banquet food. Pretty sure a lot of it is already prepped and plated in the back. There is no way they made the salads in the time it took the waitress to take our order to when they were delivered.
 

UNCgolf

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There's a fair amount of availability currently in Epcot. I agree MK is in need of more dining capacity, but I'd also say Contemporary and Poly are quite close to MK. It sounds a little whiny to say that hopping on the monorail is too hard.

now, taking a boat from MK to WL though can eat up close to an hour, so IMO, losing an hour of park time could easily = more than $50 for a family. Mid-March, a 4-day base ticket costs almost $130/day. If a family plans to be in MK for 11 hours (9am-8pm), that's $11.72 per person per hour. For a family of 5, losing an hour of park time costs about $60. ($58.60)

Then again, if they are choosing a table service meal during park hours, they are losing over an hour, even if they eat in the park. Not only are they paying about $30 more per adult (over QS), but the meal also costs extra park time (over choosing to eat a QS meal, or just snacking).

but most people don't really think about park touring that way...

EPCOT is the one park that has solid dining capacity, but it's still hard to get a reservation there, likely because a lot of people leave other parks and hop there to eat.

I agree that there are far more options if you're willing to go eat at a resort, but I think most visitors just don't even think about that as an option outside of the one they're actually staying at.

Disney Springs also has plenty of places to eat (which for the most part are significantly better than any restaurant inside the parks) and we tend to eat a lot of our meals there, but that runs into the same issue of having to leave the park and spend time in transit.
 
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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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Next weeks availability at Epcot, particularly Friday, is scarce. No Dinner reservations to be had at the moment, and only one rose and crown reservation at 3:00 for lunch haha
Not EPCOT, but adjacent...

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Epcot82Guy

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I'm a little perplexed by Disney's reservation system and actual capacity. When going to grab dinner with a friend, we checked the app with virtually no availability at Disney Springs. I then checked OpenTable, and there was significant availability at many of the restaurants showing no or little availability on the Disney app. Obviously, that's DS vs. a Park - but it struck me as odd to be controlling availability that way when it was obviously available on another app.
 

ToTBellHop

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Next weeks availability at Epcot, particularly Friday, is scarce. No Dinner reservations to be had at the moment, and only one rose and crown reservation at 3:00 for lunch haha
Presidents’ Week has been the most difficult time of year for me to score ADRs. Harder than Christmas Week. We were down Presidents’ Week 2019 and couldn’t find dinner anywhere one night at Epcot. Ended up just returning to the resort because lines for rides were awful. Like, 80 min. for Imagination.

I won’t do Presidents’ Week again. It gets professional vacationers—people who come every year. So the parks are packed from rope drop to close. At least at Christmas, fewer guests are Disney pros so the early hours of the morning are quite nice.
 

ToTBellHop

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I'm a little perplexed by Disney's reservation system and actual capacity. When going to grab dinner with a friend, we checked the app with virtually no availability at Disney Springs. I then checked OpenTable, and there was significant availability at many of the restaurants showing no or little availability on the Disney app. Obviously, that's DS vs. a Park - but it struck me as odd to be controlling availability that way when it was obviously available on another app.
The restaurants at DS split their reservations between the two services. Far more people use MDE to book and have no idea they are also on OpenTable (and without the $10 cancellation penalty!).
 

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