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Chip Chipperson
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Boosters provide the best protection against Omicron variant, CDC studies show, raising new questions about what it means to be fully vaccinated | CNN
Three large new studies from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention highlight the importance of getting a booster shot to provide the best protection against the Omicron coronavirus variant.
www.cnn.com
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
I felt like we already knew that getting a booster was going to help you stay out of the hospital more when compared to just the initial two (maybe just based on trials?)...but there you have it!Boosters provide the best protection against Omicron variant, CDC studies show, raising new questions about what it means to be fully vaccinated | CNN
Three large new studies from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention highlight the importance of getting a booster shot to provide the best protection against the Omicron coronavirus variant.
correcaminos
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Moderna vaccine recipients have lower risk of breakthrough infections, hospitalization: study
A new study has found that people who received the Moderna COVID-19 mRNA vaccine are less likely to experience breakthrough infections and hospitalization compared to those who received the Pfizer-BioNTech mRNA shot.
tl;dr - Moderna keeps Delta breakthroughs from hospitalizing you slightly better than Pfizer. WRT deaths - no difference.
It was wise of me to go Pfizer - Pfizer - Moderna!
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Fauci Says the FDA Could Approve the COVID Vaccine for Kids Under 5 Next Month
Children under 5 could be eligible for Pfizer-BioNTech's COVID-19 vaccine within the next month, Dr. Anthony Fauci said Wednesday
Omicron pushes COVID deaths toward 2,000 per day
Omicron's death toll is rising as cases decline on the East Coast.
www.axios.com
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Tomorrow's headline..."New study suggests mixing vaccines is worthless against omicron"
At least, the story adds some percentages to quantify it, for those that need to know the numbers.
The gap between the stats looks like a meaningful difference too, not just a little feel good thought.
There's this number too unfortunately.
Chip Chipperson
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I think the most interesting point in the article was the 66% less chance of symptomatic illness. Some people here would have you believe that the vaccines are worthless at preventing infection from Omicron but this study would suggest that there is still decent protection despite the reduced efficacy.
Well I knew that. And you knew that. And a lot of other posters here knew that. But I do think there are a lot of people dilly dallying around about getting their boosters. My friend who is still very sick with Covid (day 13 now) kept putting it off because it wasn't convenient to feel sick for a bit after. I think every time the data is highlighted, more people will pull the trigger.
DisneyCane
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One thing not studied as far as I can tell is comparing the same amount of elapsed time from the second dose and booster dose. Basically, is it the third dose that makes the difference or is it being less than a certain amount of time from your most recent dose?
If someone had gotten their second dose on the same day as I got my booster in December, would I have more protection than they do?
On the CDC site it clearly states booster 5 months after Pfizer / Moderna series of doses.
That’s correct @Lilofan. It recently changed from 6 months to 5 months.
Waiting for when we can get and sign up for our 4th dose!
correcaminos
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Unless you are immunocompromised I have a feeling that's not happening. Studies are showing it not as helpful as you'd think.
How far past the first people getting boosters are we?
It's not as simple as just someone who started later and is behind vs someone who is ahead. That's much harder to tease out of the data too, as every day creates new buckets and dilutes the sample size. It can probably be done, but it's not surprising it wouldn't be the first reporting.
Didn't that very limited Israel study recently recently posted say that the fourth dose didn't seen to have a difference? Which would suggest it's not just "another dose" that's the difference.
On it's own, that still wouldn't answer if the third dose has diminishing returns. Which would be sad if it does and a fourth dose doesn't matter as there would be no recovery at that point. Maybe a fourth dose needs to be longer after the third then was tried. We don't know yet. Or maybe not.
We started the vaccine roll out based on the short term efficacy data. We didn't wait for a long term result or a determination if there is a longer term more dose vaccine schedule. So far, it looks like it's not 2 doses 4 weeks apart, but really a starter dose and then an additional dose 5-6 months later. Where the starter dose is either 1 or 2 in within 4 weeks.
Give it a decade, we'll probably figure out an optimal dose schedule and timing. Along with how many are ultimately needed. I'm glad we didn't wait for that before starting though. We'll know when we get there. Until then, we only know what we know so far.
correcaminos
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Mid-end of July is when trials started for mine. Near then is when immunocompromised were getting. Most of the rest were closer to fall IIRC
So we're just barely at 6 months after the first people got boosters.
Which means, for the most part the best we're going to be able to report on is how effective the booster is up to 6 months. And, we could also only now start to try an additional boosters at 6 months past first booster. And that then leads to that we need even more time if we want to study an additional booster after a longer time, say one year after the first booster.
The side effect of everyone being just a few months behind the leading edge of long term efficacy and additional dose investigation is that we only know information that's for few months ahead of where we all are.
We'll get there.
It is the the ever changing virus including medical/ science information that may give us further direction regarding 4th and continuing doses.
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Hope your friend recovers fully drizgirl, that reminds me to call my friend who informed me neither she nor husband or 18 year old DD had their booster yet last week.....I encourage, her older sister and family all came back from WDW, with underlying health issues, and had been vaccinated but not boosted and were very ill. That made he start to think on it.....I was like really? But told her places I knew of that were good experiences and organized. Procrastination is not your friend with omicron.
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