correcaminos
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One word... Mandalorian
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And Marvel. And the Verizon promo. And Grandparents. And lastly Disney Adult Fans.One word... Mandalorian
Ummm.... me and my best friend do that....
Heppenheimer
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Two more words- Get Back. My brother subscribed just to watch this....One word... Mandalorian
... I wonder if this might be the first in a series of steps for the Mouse House to start licensing Beatles music.
lazyboy97o
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Yellow Submarine: The Ride!
Jrb1979
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It's the only reason I got Disney+. I could careless about all the junk on there.
correcaminos
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I have yet to watch as I am not a Beatles fan at all. But there are definitely shows my adult friends are into. Kids or not. And watch parties definitely occur
For example
So true
DisneyCane
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Does that mean that if the findings of the study turn out to be valid, that even with boosters the vaccines won't make a dent in Omicron spread?Not sure if anyone saw this:
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Israeli study shows 4th shot of COVID-19 vaccine less effective on Omicron
A fourth shot of COVID-19 vaccine boosts antibodies to even higher levels than the third jab but it is not enough to prevent Omicron infections, according to a preliminary study in Israel.www.reuters.com
It was based on a fairly small sample of health care professionals (meaning, people with a much higher baseline level of exposure). If this result can be generalized to a larger population, then a 4th dose may not be recommended. Or, we may need a reformulation of the existing vaccines. Personally, I think the key will be the nasal vaccine, if it pans out (no guarantees there), because if it can stimulate a strong immune response in the mucosa, then we can block even the extremely fast-replicating omicron variant from taking hold.
I also can't find any information if they looked at hospitalization rates and deaths with the 4th dose, but the study was likely too small to show statistical significance for these metrics.
danlb_2000
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The effectivity of the booster against Omicon spread is irrelevant at this point since not enough people would get it to make a difference.
DisneyFan32
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It's too soon to know whether the omicron variant will be the final phase of the COVID-19 pandemic, Dr. Anthony Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said Monday.
"It is an open question as to whether or not omicron is going to be the live virus vaccination that everyone is hoping for," Fauci said, putting air quotes around the phrase "live virus vaccination."
There are two ways for a pandemic to end: the infectious disease is eradicated, or it becomes endemic, which means it still exists without being disruptive to society — chickenpox, for example.
"If you look at the history of infectious diseases, we’d only eradicated one infectious disease in man and that’s smallpox," Fauci said at the World Economic Forum. "That’s not going to happen with this virus."
That means COVID-19 must evolve into a less dangerous disease for the pandemic to officially end.
And although the highly contagious omicron variant is spreading like wildfire — infecting about 782,000 Americans per day, according to the CDC — some point to its low mortality rate as a sign that the virus may be becoming less severe.
It's possible that omicron could signal that the pandemic is ending, “but that would only be the case if we don’t get another variant that eludes the immune response,” Fauci said.
And omicron will likely not be the final variant of the coronavirus, said Annelies Wilder-Smith, a professor of infectious diseases research at the Lee Kong Chian School of medicine.
"Clearly with such high a virus circulation we’re seeing now, there’s a high probability that we’ll have another variant coming up," she said at the World Economic Forum.
I hope the pandemic is ending soon, as another variant will be even worse than Delta and Omicron or not.
Heppenheimer
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We'll need to see the study to find out, since it has not yet been published or peer-reviewed. They did note that there were fewer breakthrough cases in the group that received the 4th booster, but the difference was not statistically significant. But, once again, this was a fairly small trial in a group with a much higher level of baseline exposure than the general population. The math could change with a larger study.
I'll also note that none of the news reports mentioned any other measured outcomes other than "breakthrough infection" and even this wasn't defined if it meant only symptomatic breakthrough or also included asymptomatic. I didn't see any mention of the also important outcomes of hospitalization and death, but I doubt the study was sufficiently powered to say anything useful about these measures.
Chip Chipperson
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They're not 0% effective, so they will and do make a dent.
I would rephrase that to be that the study seems to show a fourth dose (second booster) doesn't seem to make a statistically significant difference. The existing currently recommended booster (third dose, second for J&J) does appear to make a statistically significant difference.
That may be what you meant.
I would certainly still recommend everyone get all the currently recommended doses. However, rushing out to personally experiment with extra doses would seem to be unnecessary. Unless someone is up for "doing their own research" the other way, and willing to live with getting extra doses that may do nothing.
Strangely, we heard lots of noise about how they could produce a new vaccine based on the Omicron specifics quickly. But, I haven't seen any reporting about anyone actually doing that or testing that. Which, seems to look like what we'll need unfortunately.
Chip Chipperson
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Pfizer anticipates having one ready to go in March. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/10/cov...s-omicron-vaccine-will-be-ready-in-march.html
Moderna expects to have data on theirs in March. https://www.reuters.com/business/he...cific-shot-likely-available-march-2022-01-17/
Heppenheimer
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It is under trial currently.
lazyboy97o
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What would have to happen for them to become like flu shots that are able to be updated quickly to try to keep up with strains?
Yeah, it's just me missing it, and not that it was just a good talk with no action.
Probably a problem with 80% of my news coming from this thread.
If you are depending upon this thread for your Covid information you are clearly looking in the wrong place.Yeah, it's just me missing it, and not that it was just a good talk with no action.
Probably a problem with 80% of my news coming from this thread.
I don't know. I would bet:If you are depending upon this thread for your Covid information you are clearly looking in the wrong place.
70% of COVID information is timely and points at good references.
99% of FL information is helpful for fretting over future WDW trip plans and implications.
25% is just good humor, some of which may be dark humor but is still good.
10% is probably just trash or trolling. Unclear day to day which is more likely trash or troll.
50% is good shared experience.
All in all, the signal to noise ratio isn't that bad most days. Even when reading stuff before @The Mom cleans up all the posts.
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