Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Could be many of the vulnerable in Florida have died and many others are being protected more?

I was thinking it’s probably a result of the massive Delta wave, most of their population has lingering antibodies since it was so recently. Unfortunately we aren’t tracking antibodies so we have no way of knowing.

I have said for over a year we need to test for antibodies but the government has not done this. I contend that if we tested for antibodies and took steps to either vaccinate and boost only those without antinodies or advised those without them that it was their responsibility for what may happen that we could beat this. However, if we continue down the path of just testing for covid19 we will never end this because there are just too many people who lose antibodies quickly or never develop them.

I feel the same, we’ve taken a very blanket approach rather than a targeted approach, it made sense in the beginning to get as many shots in arms as possible but now that most people are vaccinated a targeted approach makes more sense, time to make sure the 75% who are vaccinated are still protected. Booster compliance has been horrible, time to test and show people whether it’s necessary for their protection.

Ok then, good point, CEOs of pharmaceutical firms need to refrain from projecting an increased need for their products but rather let medical authorities do that for them. Got it.

Thank you! I’ve thought this for years, every time I see a drug commercial that says “ask your doctor if ___ is right for you” I think “shouldn’t my doctor already know?”

My entire family and myself all voted for and supported him and 99% are vaccinated.

My whole family (minus one) leans right and over half voted for him… and we’re all vaccinated and boosted too. People like to simplify everyone into left/right but we’re really a bell curve where most of us fall in the middle, lumping people with the extremists makes it easier to blame them for everything and view them as enemies though.

 

[mmascari]

Yes but childhood vaccines can be given on delayed schedule plus the boosters are spread out . My issue with the covid boosters are they almost immediate.

We covered this Wednesday. The tetanus vaccine, which I assume isn't controversial at all to anyone. It has a schedule of: 5-dose series at 2, 4, 6, 15–18 months, 4–6 years. And there's boosters after that too.

That's just 2 months between dose 1 and 2, and then 2 more months to dose 3. That's less delayed than any COVID schedule so far. It also has boosters beyond that schedule, on a time frame we haven't gotten to so we don't know for COVID vaccines yet.

Beyond that, the first tetanus dose provides virtually no protection at all. It's frankly amazing that we developed the vaccine at all. Someone only looking at the performance of a single dose would have given up on the tetanus vaccine. Even after 2 doses, it provides very limited protection.

 

[Heppenheimer]

The ones from Quebec? Where did you read they tested positive? I just thought they were told by the airlines they would not fly them back due to being unruly?

Quebec has had some serious lockdowns throughout the pandemic. They got that taste of freedom and went crazy. Bunch of sillies forgot about the consequences.

At least one did test positive, according to the CBC.

 

[mkt]

At least one did test positive, according to the CBC.

Oui. Une étudiante, Rebecca St-Pierre.

Tabarnak!

 

[Parker in NYC]

Sorry I misunderstood. Though the crazies will be crazy without that. I'm sadly related to a few myself. One I terribly miss but cannot understand how they consistently put their parent fighting cancer (and not the first time) at risk by being pig headed. They said they missed me in a card, but I cannot deal with that easily. I try, but meh... I'm on a break trying.

Thanks, Helena. I know crazies will crazy on their own, I just can’t bear to feed the fire of disinformation they thrive upon. Which is why my hopes get lower and lower. But what you’re doing personally for research is something most of them wouldn’t consider. You’re putting others first, which — in the case of a pandemic, is the whole point.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Oui. Une étudiante, Rebecca St-Pierre.

Tabarnak!

I’ve been studying French (French French, not Canadian French) for a couple years and had to look up the last word…

Learned something new today, lol.

 

[mkt]

I’ve been studying French (French French, not Canadian French) for a couple years and had to look up the last word…

Learned something new today, lol.

Most specific French Canadian swears are very catholic in origin.

 

[Incomudro]

To be fair I am one who says we wait for science. We may or may not. Do I trust if a CEO says it? No, but medical adivsors yes. If I need it 2x a year for a while fine by me. Of course I go in on Monday for a blood draw to try to help figure this out.

I agree with this, plus a certain amount of personal risk assessment based on what the next variable may throw us, or beyond that - what may be going on years from now.
I'm at my two shots plus a booster. I haven't reached a shot fatigue level where I'm done yet, and wouldn't get another booster half a year from now.
Who knows? Covid may remain a serious enough risk to warrant a booster every six months, to one year - or it may not.
If that's the case, then I'll get my boosters.
Now... It's also possible that covid may reduce down to a background threat that depending on a person's age, general health/risk factors etc., they (or I) decide for themselves whether or not they want a boost.
We'll just have to see.

 

[JoeCamel]

I agree with this, plus a certain amount of personal risk assessment based on what the next variable may throw us, or beyond that - what may be going on years from now.
I'm at my two shots plus a booster. I haven't reached a shot fatigue level where I'm done yet, and wouldn't get another booster half a year from now.
Who knows? Covid may remain a serious enough risk to warrant a booster every six months, to one year - or it may not.
If that's the case, then I'll get my boosters.
Now... It's also possible that covid may reduce down to a background threat that depending on a person's age, general health/risk factors etc., they (or I) decide for themselves whether or not they want a boost.
We'll just have to see.

What have you done with this account holder?
I agree with you

 

[Parker in NYC]

In some cases, rural America had the same access issues. Don’t make anyone any less selfish at this point. There has been extensive outreach by way of clinics, mobile units, and community leaders in all walks of life.

Access was a valid reason to take your time (or wait for a more convenient personal time) 6 months ago.

The reasons people are still holding out may be multifaceted on the granular level, but it still boils down to self-centeredness at this point in time.

I don’t include any areas with access issues. If that’s how it came off, I apologize. Truly.

 

[mkt]

Chapek. Oops, hasn’t gotten them yet. Obviously.

Chappie Pappy.

 

[sullyinMT]

Be kind. Marginalized populations often deal with totally separate issues than being stupid. Some of which is simply lack of easy access (time off work, childcare, transportation) and some legit medical fears that the average majority person cannot quite understand.

Again, someone in Elgin, ND has those same issues. Outreach to all of those with access problems could be better, regardless of ethnicity or background, but it’s not like every American hasn’t been given any opportunity at all. Some effort is required from both sides of the coin.

 

[JoeCamel]

I'm not employed by the Trump Organization.

My president is Ray Curry.

So you're the one that screwed together all the junk I had to fix over the years.....

 

[Epcotfan21]

Went two months ago, trip planned for March. Was going to the Starcruiser but cancelled. It’ll be Wilderness Lodge, baby.

I’ll be there in March too. Please let me buy you a drink!!!

 

[mmascari]

The reasons people are still holding out may be multifaceted on the granular level, but it still boils down to self-centeredness at this point in time.

Heard a story yesterday about someone who thought they needed to see a doctor first to determine if they should get vaccinated or not. Not someone with a special health circumstances. Just a normal person with whatever we call normal health today.

They were told, yes, they should get vaccinated and the sooner the better.

This is in a county with an off the charts vaccination rate and the person has a car.

 

[correcaminos]

I agree with this, plus a certain amount of personal risk assessment based on what the next variable may throw us, or beyond that - what may be going on years from now.
I'm at my two shots plus a booster. I haven't reached a shot fatigue level where I'm done yet, and wouldn't get another booster half a year from now.
Who knows? Covid may remain a serious enough risk to warrant a booster every six months, to one year - or it may not.
If that's the case, then I'll get my boosters.
Now... It's also possible that covid may reduce down to a background threat that depending on a person's age, general health/risk factors etc., they (or I) decide for themselves whether or not they want a boost.
We'll just have to see.

Yep, I know waiting stinks, but that's what's there. I do agree completely. Though I also toss in that I vaccinate my kid with boosters also to help decrease chances of spread to others. So it's not just our personal risk, but risks to others. That was ingrained in my head when getting the flu shot while my mom was dying of cancer though. The other is my kid is in middle school taking high school classes for 3 of 8 classes - lessening chance of disruption is good IMO to help the kid keep his GPA up.

I am hopeful that this will be a background threat. I don't believe this is sustainable for long term. Yeah 2 years sucks but a lot of pandemics go 2-3 years. So I just wait and see myself. I do what I can to protect my loved ones and others. That's all I can do.

 

[mkt]

So you're the one that screwed together all the junk I had to fix over the years.....

No. I'm not on the assembly line.

 

[Incomudro]

What have you done with this account holder?
I agree with you

This is my true unemotional take on the issue.

 

[sullyinMT]

I don’t include any areas with access issues. If that’s how it came off, I apologize. Truly.

None necessary. Just pointing it out for anyone willing to listen. Thanks, though .
Hang in there; this will get better again.

 

[correcaminos]

I’ll be there in March too. Please let me buy you a drink!!!

Went two months ago, trip planned for March. Was going to the Starcruiser but cancelled. It’ll be Wilderness Lodge, baby.

I have a trip planned in March as well. Fingers crossed as this is a mom and kid trip rescheduled from 2020 - Disney announced the closure 2 or 3 days before we were set to leave.