Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Heppenheimer]

Whatever he said at least the stock market seemed to like it. Much better than Friday for my portfolio!

I've been in buying mode for the past three years. I wish I could learn to make my purchases on the days when bad COVID news gets announced.

 

[Archie123]

I wish I could learn to make my purchases on the days when bad COVID news gets announced.

Just wait….you will still have plenty of opportunities to do so.

 

[Heppenheimer]

Just wait….you will still have plenty of opportunities to do so.

The pattern seems to be that you have 1-2 days to react to bad COVID news, then the market moves its attention elsewhere

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Another example. In medicine, we often need to make initial treatments choices before we have all of our necessary clinical data. As this comes in, you fine-tune the plan, or in some cases, you make a complete 180 degree turn in treatment strategy when the initial suspicion ends of up being wrong. You don't just observe the patient and possibly let them crash while waiting for result of every test. For example, most patient's will receive initial empiric treatment for pneumonia based on what antibiotics will likely work, not based on precise culture results that demonstrate the exact infecting organism and its antibiotic sensitivities. In most cases, this information will never be known, but the "good enough" treatment will work nonetheless.

We can extrapolate this idea to public health. Right now, I don't think we need to rush into doing anything different until we either know more about omicron or have evidence that out existing strategies for dealing with COVID will be inadequate for this variant (but I do think we should be doing more against delta anyway, but that's a different debate...) However, we should take the necessary "do no harm" precautions, like at least doing the preliminary work on reconfiguring the mRNA vaccines, in case this ends up being needed.

Exactly right. We need opinions from the experts before all data is in to make the best and safest decisions before the “oops “ moment of we should have done something. If we all waited for all the data we will be waiting another 5 years. Also, why need experts then, just publish the findings on Facebook and everyone will know, no need for the middle man.( The Facebook comment was a joke, referring to the people that get their news on that platform). Ok, bad joke at that.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Eh, people receiving the same brand booster don't have to hang around the 15 minutes afterwards. There is limited waiting areas where available. i.e. go stand in this corner for 15 minutes. The local hospital is vaccinating 5-11yos only.

Just got my booster this morning at Walgreens, after my shot she handed me my updated card and said I was good to go. I asked if I needed to wait 15 minutes and she said since I didn’t have a reaction to the first 2 shots it wasn’t necessary. I walked next door and grabbed a Starbucks so I’d be in public just in case.

Fingers crossed I just have a sore arm like my first shot and not the week of exhaustion that followed my second.

 

[CLEtoWDW]

Lockdowns should never be on the table ever again. They don’t work and actually make the fight against COVID more difficult because you remove natural immunity from the equation.

 

[Heppenheimer]

Lockdowns should never be on the table ever again. They don’t work and actually make the fight against COVID more difficult because you remove natural immunity from the equation.

No authoritative source in the US is calling for lockdowns, nor has anyone in over a year. Why are people still acting like any suggestion on mitigation strategies equals lockdowns and nothing else?

"Natural immunity" is not a viable strategy either because relying on it means the virus is still spreading exponentially, filling up hospitals, killing people, and giving SARS-Cov-2 more and more chances to mutate.

 

[Lilofan]

Whatever he said at least the stock market seemed to like it. Much better than Friday for my portfolio!

We need more optimism than pessimism in order to drive the market bulls to keep running . Lockdowns is actually the stock market kryptonite but some investors with cash that bought at market lows in summer of 2020 and reaping net worth rewards a plenty a year later.

 

[Lilofan]

Anyone who is passing out is doing so from the needle or act of injection, not from anything particular in the COVID vaccines. The thing that they're monitoring for is severe allergic reaction.

Seems odd that some posters say that per the pharmacist they didn't have to stay. I'm glad our pharmacist made us stay for 15 min sitting in the seats next to the pharmacist station in case of allergic reaction.

 

[hopemax]

We also were not asked to stick around after our Booster. We were shopping in Costco so if anything happened there were plenty of people around.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Seems odd that some posters say that per the pharmacist they didn't have to stay. I'm glad our pharmacist made us stay for 15 min sitting in the seats next to the pharmacist station in case of allergic reaction.

They didn't have to stay *for the second dose and/or the booster*. The first dose, second dose, and third dose are exactly the same stuff. Having an allergic reaction after your second dose when you didn't have one after your first dose isn't a thing. It's not possible. The (correct) assumption is that if you were fine after your first, you'll be fine after your second.

 

[Andrew C]

Just got my booster this morning at Walgreens, after my shot she handed me my updated card and said I was good to go. I asked if I needed to wait 15 minutes and she said since I didn’t have a reaction to the first 2 shots it wasn’t necessary. I walked next door and grabbed a Starbucks so I’d be in public just in case.

Fingers crossed I just have a sore arm like my first shot and not the week of exhaustion that followed my second.

DW and I get our boosters on Friday. 8 year old gets her second dose this evening...that's that...

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

DW and I get our boosters on Friday. 8 year old gets her second dose this evening...that's that...

That’s how I feel also, I’ve done what I can do. I “bought” myself another six months of relatively stress free freedom, hopefully in 6 months Covid will be under control, if not I’ll have to make another booster decision… but for now I’ve done what I can, that’s that.

 

[MisterPenguin]

When I got my booster last week at a 24 hour CVS, I was told to 'wait a while.' Do you think I can leave yet?

 

[Lilofan]

When I got my booster last week at a 24 hour CVS, I was told to 'wait a while.' Do you think I can leave yet?

If it was Black Friday you should have used the CVS BF coupons to get some deals

 

[Tom P.]

That’s how I feel also, I’ve done what I can do. I “bought” myself another six months of relatively stress free freedom, hopefully in 6 months Covid will be under control, if not I’ll have to make another booster decision… but for now I’ve done what I can, that’s that.

That's not necessarily true, though. We don't know that the effectiveness of the boosters will wane as the initial doses have. There are other cases where vaccines have needed a single booster and after that confer long-term protection. That may be the case here. No one has yet determined that repeated boosters will be necessary. Hopefully, they won't.

 

[Lilofan]

They didn't have to stay *for the second dose and/or the booster*. The first dose, second dose, and third dose are exactly the same stuff. Having an allergic reaction after your second dose when you didn't have one after your first dose isn't a thing. It's not possible. The (correct) assumption is that if you were fine after your first, you'll be fine after your second.

I still complied w/ my pharmacist instructions and after the 15 min egg timer went off she then gave me my completed CDC card and I went on my way.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

That's not necessarily true, though. We don't know that the effectiveness of the boosters will wane as the initial doses have. There are other cases where vaccines have needed a single booster and after that confer long-term protection. That may be the case here. No one has yet determined that repeated boosters will be necessary. Hopefully, they won't.

I hope you are right, I’d love for this to be my final dose and be personally done with Covid.

Worst case scenario I’m good for another 6 months though, I can live with that.

 

[Crunchie9]

They didn't have to stay *for the second dose and/or the booster*. The first dose, second dose, and third dose are exactly the same stuff. Having an allergic reaction after your second dose when you didn't have one after your first dose isn't a thing. It's not possible. The (correct) assumption is that if you were fine after your first, you'll be fine after your second.

First dose kicked my . Second dose didn’t have any effect on me.

 

[Tom P.]

First dose kicked my ***. Second dose didn’t have any effect on me.

That's side effects. We're talking about allergic reactions, like anaphylaxis. It is extremely unlikely (though not impossible as @CaptainAmerica suggests) that you would have an allergic reaction to a second dose if you didn't have one with the first.