Creative people I know of like to dabble into some activities I no longer go into. It helps them be "more creative". In Fantasia, the China dance scene with the dancing mushrooms can bring a smile from ear to ear!
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britain
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You’d need a war for that. Where are the knights in shining armor in this story? This is just what happens when the executives who get it have all left.
Piebald
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EricsBiscuit
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You could see this happening from a mile away. WDI got too bloated and content. Projects that should only take 1-2 years take 3-5. Blowing past budgets. Mediocre creative work. At some point you just have to blow the thing up and rebuild the pieces somewhere else. That’s what Disney is doing. It’s certainly a tough medicine but it needed to be done. And being close to UC should ignite a bit more of a spark of competition, which is good.
EPCOTCenterLover
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We will see what happens. If Pixar Pier, Toy Story Land, "New" Epcot, and Avengers Campus are any examples of the new team's work, no thank you.
lazyboy97o
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A lot of bloat was external. That isn’t going away. The lack of trust and fear that breeds indecision isn’t going away. The problems aren’t likely to be fixed and competition with Universal Creative is rather meaningless since they’re not competing for business.
But their rock work is top notch! 
EricsBiscuit
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I disagree, they are competing for business. I think it’s going to help that WDI will be so close to their most important asset (WDW). Also, proximity to management means better oversight. WDW and UOR compete because UOR is deciding to flip the metaphorical table with EU. They’re taking the next logical step to make UOR more than just a day or two at the end of 5 at Disney. When Disney catches wind of this (either before if they’re smart, unlikely, or after it is already hurting them, likely), and they will catch wind of it eventually, they will be forced to do something. Moreover, UC and WDI will compete for talent and will most likely contract to a lot of similar people meaning more competition for bidding. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
EricsBiscuit
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I think those masterpieces of storytelling are the fruits of the much hyped “institutional knowledge” of the last 15~ years. I consider this WDI’s 40 days in the wilderness. Maybe they will wake up and relearn how to work both efficiently and effectively after going downhill since 2006.
lazyboy97o
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Projects at the Disneyland Resort have not been more efficient than projects at Walt Disney World. Projects handled by the field offices have not been more efficient. Just being physically closer to a dozen layers of bureaucracy isn’t going to make them magically go away.
Disney deciding to respond to Epic Universe won’t somehow make them more efficient.
Walt Disney Imagineering and Universal Creative already compete for talent and use the same vendors and contractors. None of that has brought down costs and in fact Universal’s costs have become more like Disney’s.
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Californian Elitist
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This is a very strong case of wishful thinking.
Why do you assume that changing location will somehow turn things around?
We did not get a huge castle, but we did get a mountain. I think it looks great. a little disingenuous don't you think.
JoeCamel
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Sorry, they blew it.
Well that certainly is your opinion.
Sharon&Susan
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It does a great job of bringing Walt's idea for Lilliputian Land into reality.
Animaniac93-98
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It's neither a convincing castle or mountain. It looks like what it is, a miniature on top of a cave, and inside the cave is a ballroom.
It was a nice idea, but I don't think they gave themselves enough space to pull it off.
This is all made worse by the fact that Cinderella's Royal Table is only a few hundred feet away. They did this idea better 40 years prior.
durangojim
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I just finished reading the first Disney War and really didn’t find any knights in that one either.
eddie104
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Looking at the TDL Expansion thread they seem to love rock work and waterfalls.But their rock work is top notch!
The castle isn’t anything to write home about but overall the area leading up the entrance and the interior are nicely done.
In the Disney Decade, this would have been great for a Mini Golf Course.
IMO, there's nothing in that picture that isn't disappointing. A bad forced perspective. Walls along a bridge that keep you from seeing a pretty good river scene (but what good is a nice scene if no one sees it?). The utter baffling conceit that there's a door in a mountain supposedly a mile from the castle that has the castle immediately behind that door. All leading to a warehouse room that's too loud, for food that's too expensive, with an awful SFX of flickering candles in which large groups of them flicker in unison making them look extra fake. One and done for me.