As I said, adding attractions hasn’t reduced crowds in the past; it simply encourages more people to come. I have never struggled to find things to do during my trips; on the contrary, I usually run out of time before I get through my list, and that’s with line-skipping.
The line skipping wasn’t really line skipping. You were losing that time in other ways.
If lines for food are that long I would consider doing doordash now for something besides pizza.
I think I have a better sense than you do of how I spent my time. Good-faith discussion between us is simply impossible if you won’t do me the basic courtesy of treating me like a rational human being rather than a simpleton in Disney’s thrall.
Ideally though....if Genie is what it hopes to be- there should be enough for everyone to do.
This was pre-pandemic.
I made no value judgement on how you spent your time. Neither FastPass nor FastPass+ were skip the line systems. There’s only so much capacity and it did not keep up with demand. There is no way either system pushed through more people, so that time that would have been spent in a queue was reallocated elsewhere. Some with extensive knowledge of how the systems worked we’re able to eventually use them to their benefit, but that is still a fringe case and not how most people use the system. Were you getting 2 attractions per hour and only with a casual knowledge of the system?
The problem very much is quantity. Yes, someone could spend three hours walking a walkthrough at Disney’s Animal Kingdom but it’s not how most people visit the park. Everything also doesn’t appeal to everyone. By design, Disney-MGM Studios and the post-Disneyland Paris parks have just enough to make for a technically “satisfying” day but people don’t want to do everything for a variety of reasons ranging from not liking an experience to being physically unable to do the experience. That’s why these parks have all been called half day parks.
I think there are a lot of people who look at the non-MK parks as half-day parks, but I'm guessing it's because there's only a half-day's worth of stuff they're interested in. Some people are looking for fast rollercoaster type rides, some are looking for the slow and kid-friendly things to do, other are looking for parades, shows, and the like. Personally, I think it's good that there's enough variety in each park to have some interest to everyone, but not everything is interesting to everyone. That said, it would be good to have 'more of everything' at the parks that aren't the MK so the crowd burden is shared. It's kinda/sorta what they're doing, just rather ham-handedly.
I largely agree with this. To clarify my earlier point, I don’t consider new attractions to be superfluous and I welcome their addition; I just don’t see an urgent need for them, nor am I convinced that they do much, if anything, to reduce crowds.
I wasn't. I was most likely at Blizzard Beach or possibly the resort pool. Then we would do our three FastPasses and head out to dinner.
It was. Most likely spent doing things other than rides; we like the boat rides from Disney Springs to Port Orleans Riverside. We have a lot more time to do that if we're not waiting an hour for FOP.
If new attractions show up in non-MK parks and even out the load of guests without enticing more visitors to the resort, I think it's great. LOL, I don't think KiteTails is doing it, though.
That’s how most people look at parks. Not everything appeals to everyone. Some people just don’t like shows. Some don’t like parades. Some can’t physically handle certain rides. That’s why variety is important and it’s how you get a strong capacity that is able to serve more people over a wider variety of attendance scenarios
Let me make this clear: you do not get to dictate that I don’t enjoy the parks, or that the way that I experience them is somehow wrong or “perverse,” or that there is something wrong with me (or other posters) because we are able to engage with Disney critically while also enjoying many elements of it. Disney, Marvel, Star Wars, and WDW mean a great deal to me and my fondness for and fascination with them has shaped my life more then I feel it necessary to explain here. I am not going to give up on that because I feel the parks are being mismanaged currently - I’m not going to let foolish executives take possession of something I love. So please feel free to exchange opinions and debate the reality of the park, but stop trying to shut down debate by positing your perception as the limit of discussion and please don’t try to define opposing views of the park a product of personal maladjustment.
I'll grant, HS doesn't have enough attractions. In that park it is a problem. AK would also benefit from more.
Again, these a very specific personal uses of the system built on your personal knowledge and preferences. The design day for a major theme park is going to be something like 10 hours, not an evening.
Please reread my post, which you have clearly misunderstood. It’s not your views or experiences of the parks that I consider perverse—on the contrary, I’ve stated multiple times that we are all entitled to our own preferences—but rather the practice of dogmatically insisting that others must be mistaken to feel as they do. Respectful or productive discussion is simply impossible when such zealotry is at play.
