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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion
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People can continue to complain how Florida has handled this wave or say things are going fine. What is nor debatable any more is Florida is not the problem. Florida is now the 10th lowest state in the US for cases per 100,000 and falling fast than most of the other top 10. There is still a long way to go until we beat this terrible virus but I believe we are on our way and hope this is the last wave. It is up to all of us to make sure we keep the progress going. Please do your part.
Same question here. Maybe some of the posts have been removed?
correcaminos
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Also keep in mind some people are frustrated. I know I am. And maybe frustrations pop through too. I was so enjoying summer. No real cases here to worry about, thought school would be normal for my kid. Now I'm sitting here counting masks and cast numbers and I think I needed way more black than I bought and less white. Not where I thought I'd be in June though I did buy some just in case.
Division isn't the answer and I don't believe it is inevitable. I do think we can work through it. While some here think I'm not cautious enough and others too cautious (not political as an FYI, just where people fall on what restrictions we should have), I'm trying my best. I know so many who are. One person I know who is running for a non-political local office relayed a conversation about masks with me. The result of the conversation was to step back and ponder the idea of "love thy neighbor" it resonated with the other who never looked at it that way. My phrase is "be kind"
I am grateful that our numbers are dropping as a whole. My wish is we have enough immunity via all methods to keep it dropping. An immunologist friend wished more had vaccinated and really and truly wished for more mandates as it would've kept their job better but is seeing signs of hope.
Meanwhile this is a friend of a loved one. https://abc6onyourside.com/news/loc...r-his-life-in-hospital-as-he-battles-covid-19
Another had their preschooler positive. 2 breakthrough cases in vaccinated (though teen is asymptomatic) because of it. That's what happens with spotty vaccination. We do all do better if more are...
GoofGoof
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Real world data that shows vaccine mandates do work:
www.yahoo.com
Everyone doesn’t have to be happy about it, but the end result is the same.
Data shows vaccine mandates have dramatically increased health care worker inoculation numbers
At the end of a week that began with fears of severe staffing shortages at New York hospitals due to the state’s Monday deadline for health care workers to get vaccinated, data shows a dramatic increase in vaccination.
Everyone doesn’t have to be happy about it, but the end result is the same.
Roy G. Dis
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Online discourse on stuff like Covid has made me want to try harder to care about others' even if I absolutely hate their particular take on a certain topic. Try to put myself in their shoes.
I think it's called empathy? I'm working on it.
I think it's called empathy? I'm working on it.
JoeCamel
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So that's where it all went.
https:///2021/09/fl-covid-cases-drop-disney-world-50th-rwb1/
Don’t know if this has been discussed here yet or not, and don’t have time to dig through pages of posts. Does anyone have any idea if Disney will be dropping their indoor mask policies anytime soon based on the declining case numbers?
Don’t know if this has been discussed here yet or not, and don’t have time to dig through pages of posts. Does anyone have any idea if Disney will be dropping their indoor mask policies anytime soon based on the declining case numbers?
Angel Ariel
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Which is a hell of a lot better than not having a vaccine at all.
correcaminos
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My guess? Not until 5-11 can begin to be vaccinated (edit: at least). Just to be safer. Going back and forth sucks.
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Chi84
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You think it will be different from the last time they removed the indoor mask mandate as far as waiting for kids to be vaccinated? Maybe because Delta is so much more transmissible?
GoofGoof
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It may just be because it’s a somewhat certain timeframe now. In the past we didn’t know when kids would be approved and now we have a good level of confidence that sometime in the beginning of November kids 5-11 will most likely be going. Just a guess.
Since delta is more contagious and also the crowd levels are much higher now it probably makes sense to wait a little. The crowds seem pretty large with the 50th and with the holidays approaching they may not be in a hurry to make a change. I think once national cases drop further and the local FL cases flatline they may move on it or they may just wait until after the holidays when demand might have dropped off. Come the first quarter of 2022 there’s a chance we see national cases way down as well as local cases and we have a higher overall national vaccination rate which should make it likely they can drop mitigations and hopefully not bring them back.
correcaminos
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Yes to the latter. If we hadn't dealt with such a huge spike in many places, they wouldn't wait. But numbers got bad. Really bad. No complaints now, but flipping back and forth on mandates is not easy so given how close we are to young ones, I don't think we'll see it before then. Honestly maybe not until next year. But not dropping the mask mandate for the 50th was telling to me. Add in having a real timeline for vaccines just adds to it
Obviously it's a guess and I was wrong about only blips vs surges in many places so definitely more of a magic 8 ball based on a hunch than really knowing stuff
Chi84
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Right. Most people thought they would hold off much longer on lifting the mask mandates in May. I don’t know what number they will wait for this time, but I strongly suspect it won’t be tied to kids getting vaccinated or national numbers going down.
correcaminos
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Let me clarify I do not believe the day they are approved or even 5 weeks later, but that's something that I think will happen before they consider it. Really in my brain that was me thinking "at least" not just with it. Will edit to reflect me forgetting to type that.
GoofGoof
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I think Disney will always make the decisions based somewhat on national numbers. Back in May when they dropped indoor masks national numbers actually looked pretty good. Whether they wait longer this time is tough to predict but since the indoor masks don’t seem to have a major impact on business they are less likely to want to drop them again.
Chi84
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I suspect Disney wants to drop the masks as soon as possible, regardless of any impact on their business. As far as when that will be, my guess is sooner rather than later. Of course no one knows for certain. And who can say what measure they’re using.
JoeCamel
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CDC guidance, the lawyers will have someone to point to if things go south.
Chi84
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What kind of lawsuits are you envisioning?
sullyinMT
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I think because the vaccine light is much closer for kids this time, there’s merit to waiting. If early November holds, visitors to WDW could have their 5+ family vaccinated by New Year’s Day. It’s a nice date on the calendar if case trends also continue their decline. So, I’d guess sometime between 1/1 and 2/14.
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