correcaminos
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True, promotional art is a better term.Concept art is a bit of a misnomer. Promotional art would really be a better term. A lot of the recent hotel art has been renderings of the “blueprints”.
I agree about deluxe vs Disney "deluxe" completely. Part of why I am happy with DVC is that I don't expect all of that. I'm in a villa, I'm there for the size and room options - not uber special service. If I want that, I do it in the parks with a VIP tour or something lol. The only thing Disney "deluxe" offer are bigger rooms, less garish themes, and honestly just a hint more offerings at the resort (often better service to go with, but talking Motel 6 vs Holiday Inn - maybe Hilton).True. It is an opinion whether themed resorts even matter, I’d argue they do.
Yes, “deluxe” usually refers to amenities, however, Disney is charging ludicrously insane amounts of money for supposedly deluxe resorts without “4 Seasons” perks.
4 Seasons, Ritz Carlton, those are actually deluxe.
Grand Floridian, Contemporary, absolutely not.
Disney’s Deluxe has never been about the service or amenities; while they’re better than say, Art of Animation, it has by and large been tied to to only the quality of the resort itself. It has always been about the theming.
Though I don’t know man, it’s not really a difference of opinion on what type of crowds visits a resort. Both Disneyland and Tokyo have more seasonal entertainment because they have to constantly add new things to bring people back. They both had a MUCH larger percentage of APs when they had them and that massively altered the make-up of the crowds at a park on any given day which was even more so amplified by the more easy reach of those APs. Logically it just makes sense: there’s just vastly more people in LA and Tokyo that are an afternoon away from Orlando, and both resorts have larger fandoms per capita to how many visit the entire resorts. Better quick-service, less guests relative to the ones that go not running like a chicken with their head cut off, among other things that come of it because the guests on those two properties demand more. Now it’s an opinion whether that matters, but I think it does. I’m sure @lentesta can accurately explain it far better than I can.
Those reasonably priced hotels at WDW are not convenient is my point because of the Disney bubble. You can’t just walk or hop on a monorail to the parks from a quality (though lack of themed), affordable hotel like you can at Tokyo or Anaheim, so you have to either shell out vastly more money for the same experience or be a bit of a drive away. My post explained that.
The crux of my argument was: WDW’s specialty of themed resorts is slipping away since guests aren’t demanding themed resorts to the detriment of the property which IMO is what has always made WDW special, and my lesser point was that DVC seems to be amplifying it further.
As for ease of transportation, agree to disgree here. I've stayed in the Disney springs hotels. They have shuttles. You get perks similar to the Disneyland area hotels. Actually you get more. But there are many shuttles to and from the parks at WDW from not too badly priced hotels. Of course the super cheap ones do not, but I'm talking $150 or so a night. Again will not talk of Tokyo. A totally different place.
We view DLR through different lenses I think or think what touristy means as different. I know who goes there and it is a lot of locals playing tourist for the day as well as people stopping in on their way through other parts of CA. I will say it isn't as much of a sole destination as WDW is, but WDW used to be that way too (grew up going to both). Your points on APs are valid though. Part of why I was so shocked that WDW kept APs out so long. They weren't the issue near as much. But in feel - I mean sure some might be more local - but it's similar to me. I have yet to personally go to Tokyo to comment. I know it is totally different and understand reasons why they might be. Not much to do with DVC though and all about cultures and locations.
I get that some themes are lessening in your mind. I agree with some but not all. I just don't think DVC is even relevant to that discussion.