You're Gonna Need a Bigger Park

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Judging by the reactions, the box office numbers, and the planned movies every year til 2020 (and I'm sure it will extend beyond that). 14 acres isn't going to be enough to contain this "thing" that was just put in motion.

I've seen it twice already and am thinking of a third trip tomorrow. Never in a million years did I think it would illicit this type of reaction in me. They hit it out of the park.

 

[AmUK]

In Bob Igers world of profit only - you're lucky you got Launch bay, never mind 14 acres.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

Nah, they'll just put something Star Wars in each of the 4 parks. The "New" planet in DHS. The forest Moon of Endor complete with the Speederbike coaster next to Pandora in DAK. Wonders of Life becomes The Science of Star Wars. And thankfully, Stitch will vacate for a marginally better Star Wars show where Jar Jar accidently allows a chili dog loving scary alien to escape.

Then, to see all the Star Wars stuff, you'll have to buy 4 day tickets or park hoppers.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

In Bob Igers world of profit only - you're lucky you got Launch bay, never mind 14 acres.

You do realize it has broken $120 Million for its first day and is now projected to hit $300 Million for opening weekend. They are now projecting 2.5 Billion overall. Thats over double what Frozen took in. If Iger's motivation is profit, he'll scrap Toy Story Land along with most everything in DHS and build the entire park around SW. (Never going to happen, but 14 acres with all the SW IP they own isn't going to be big enough.)

 

[FigmentForver96]

In Bob Igers world of profit only - you're lucky you got Launch bay, never mind 14 acres.

Do you ever get tired of saying the same thing over and over?

 

[Disneyhead'71]

Do you ever get tired of saying the same thing over and over?

Nope.

 

[wdwfan4ver]

The Star Wars Franchise even before this movie had endless possibilities of theme park attractions. I argue Star Wars Land needed more than 14 acres before Star Wars: The Force awakens came out in theaters. The problem is DHS needs more than Toy Story for Pixar and is why phase 3 is rumored for Pixar. At the same time, Star Wars can't be in phase 4.

I think Disney is going be forced to put Star Wars in more than 1 WDW theme park at some point although I don't want to see it at Epcot, AK, or Magic Kingdom. Honestly, that is the only option for have more Star Wars Attractions outside of the 14 acre land. Lets face it, that while Disney has the acres to do a 5th park for adding Star Wars, there is a lot of reasons a 5th park can't be done right now.

 

[Hakunamatata]

In Bob Igers world of profit only - you're lucky you got Launch bay, never mind 14 acres.

When the time comes, don't choke on the feathers.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

The Star Wars Franchise even before this movie had endless possibilities of theme park attractions. I argue Star Wars Land needed more than 14 acres before Star Wars: The Force awakens came out in theaters. The problem is DHS needs more than Toy Story for Pixar and is why phase 3 is rumored for Pixar. At the same time, Star Wars can't be in phase 4.

I think Disney is going be forced to put Star Wars in more than 1 WDW theme park at some point although I don't want to see it at Epcot, AK, or Magic Kingdom. Honestly, that is the only option for have more Star Wars Attractions outside of the 14 acre land. Lets face it, that while Disney has the acres to do a 5th park for adding Star Wars, there is a lot of reasons a 5th park can't be done right now.

I get your reasoning and agree to some degree. As of Wednesday, Star Wars was a property sustained primarily on the original trilogy of films which debuted 38 years ago. Although the prequel trilogy was successful at the box office, it was not received well by the Star Wars universe. Star Wars to date has been sustained by nostalgia and marketing moreso than actually delivering the goods. The animated series are nice, the books are okay.

What TFA has done, is deliver something in a very very big way. Something that hasn't been delivered since arguably 1980 (some will say 83). The movie was going to make money, granted. But how much money and how it would be received was open to speculation. That speculation has ended and this may turn out to be the biggest motion picture in history based on its box office and critical reception.

Disney has to be taking a step back and evaluating the best course forward right now. And that course is not sticking a random attraction in Tomorrowland and another in Future World (although that may be the path they choose). If Disney is even contemplating a 5th gate it shouldn't be around Heroes or Villains, or be based on a comic book series. Both of those things would adequately fill a re-imagined DHS.

The commitment and investment they have in the SW IP, with 4 more movies announced, the nostalgia around the first 6, and the overwhelming positive reaction to episode 7, the popularity of SWW (while it lasted), the 5th gate would need to be modeled after a galaxy.

Unless VIII is a dud (which is highly doubtful as it will probably smash the records VII is setting right now), Disney is going to need to plan how to expand the SW IP in the parks. Before SW Land even breaks ground.

 

[dizda]

If the next two episodes are nearly as popular as TFA, the planned SWL will not be able to meet the demand from fans. DHS will be at capacity, but the rest of the park will have level 2 crowds while SWL will be at an 11.

 

[Clyde Birdbrain]

14 acres isn't going to be enough to contain this "thing" that was just put in motion.

I was thinking the same thing today and wondered if the anticipated success of TFA is why they canceled the Star Wars Weekends. Those weekends were already insanely popular in recent years and that was largely based on 30+ year old movies. I cannot imagine what it would be like if there was another celebrity motorcade next year with one or more of the stars from TFA. The park is just too small for that. They would limit the number of people that can get in, but then so many people would be unhappy.

 

[Magenta Panther]

Judging by the reactions, the box office numbers, and the planned movies every year til 2020 (and I'm sure it will extend beyond that). 14 acres isn't going to be enough to contain this "thing" that was just put in motion.

I've seen it twice already and am thinking of a third trip tomorrow. Never in a million years did I think it would illicit this type of reaction in me. They hit it out of the park.

Down, boy. There's more than enough land devoted to Bob Iger's acquisition. What you're experiencing is nostalgia-gasm. It will pass, son. It will pass.

 

[Magenta Panther]

You do realize it has broken $120 Million for its first day and is now projected to hit $300 Million for opening weekend. They are now projecting 2.5 Billion overall. Thats over double what Frozen took in. If Iger's motivation is profit, he'll scrap Toy Story Land along with most everything in DHS and build the entire park around SW. (Never going to happen, but 14 acres with all the SW IP they own isn't going to be big enough.)

It's big all right, but now it's projected to land somewhere around 220 million - the conservative side of the estimates. Saturday viewings were softer than expected. http://deadline.com/2015/12/star-wars-force-awakens-box-office-thursday-night-previews-1201669166/

It's interesting that audiences for the opening weekend were made up of mostly older males. We'll have to wait and see if the film has "legs". At any rate, why would The Robert Iger Company cough up more money for SW when it didn't do it for Frozen - also a worldwide phenom, also a huge merchandiser?

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

Judging by the reactions, the box office numbers, and the planned movies every year til 2020 (and I'm sure it will extend beyond that). 14 acres isn't going to be enough to contain this "thing" that was just put in motion.

I've seen it twice already and am thinking of a third trip tomorrow. Never in a million years did I think it would illicit this type of reaction in me. They hit it out of the park.

Here is a picture of the Avatar project over at DAK. This is one show building on 10 acres vs. Two show buildings, additional attractions, retail, dining and all of the backstage items on 14 acres. Space will go quickly.

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

If the next two episodes are nearly as popular as TFA, the planned SWL will not be able to meet the demand from fans. DHS will be at capacity, but the rest of the park will have level 2 crowds while SWL will be at an 11.

Rian Johnson has been working on episode 8 for the past year and a half while working with JJ Abrams with what was going to be in episode 7. The franchise is in good hands.

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

I was thinking the same thing today and wondered if the anticipated success of TFA is why they canceled the Star Wars Weekends. Those weekends were already insanely popular in recent years and that was largely based on 30+ year old movies. I cannot imagine what it would be like if there was another celebrity motorcade next year with one or more of the stars from TFA. The park is just too small for that. They would limit the number of people that can get in, but then so many people would be unhappy.

They may bring SWW back as a hard ticket where you pay extra - just use a different name for the event. Make bank.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

It's big all right, but now it's projected to land somewhere around 220 million - the conservative side of the estimates. Saturday viewings were softer than expected. http://deadline.com/2015/12/star-wars-force-awakens-box-office-thursday-night-previews-1201669166/

It's interesting that audiences for the opening weekend were made up of mostly older males. We'll have to wait and see if the film has "legs". At any rate, why would The Robert Iger Company cough up more money for SW when it didn't do it for Frozen - also a worldwide phenom, also a huge merchandiser?

Deadline now reporting Saturday, while still a drop-off, was stronger than expected. TFA now projected to hit 238-243 Million. That is just domestically. Globally, will be somewhere near 325 - 350 million for opening weekend. http://deadline.com/2015/12/star-wars-force-awakens-box-office-thursday-night-previews-1201669166/. Scary when you realize it still has not been released in several countries.

Agreed Frozen was a worldwide phenom. But Frozen is not SW. Globally, SW projections are now between 2-2.5 Billion which nearly or slightly double Frozen. Think about that. Doubles Frozen.

Don't know how you can say Iger didn't cough up money on Frozen: The new Frozen Ride, The new Arendelle pavilion for the meet and greet in Epcot, Frozen Summer, Frozen Wishes, Frozen Singalong, Frozen in about every park in DW.

Now again think about that statement. "SW will double Frozen". That is a pretty big statement. To put it in a better context. This one film...will generate nearly 60-70% of the total box office revenue that all 4 Pirates did combined.

Now when you throw in the IP from the first six films, the animated series, the books, and the 5 scheduled movies to be released over the next five years -- replacing Stitch with a "Starkiller" ride and converting a pavilion in Future World into a Rebel Base, ain't gonna cut it. Disney is sitting on a gold-mine. Yes they paid 4 Billion for it. But it is an investment that will end up netting them a 500% return.

Forget about Iger simply coughing. He's got full on bronchitis. He'll be coughing for the next 5 years.
https://deadline.com/2015/12/bob-ig...-disney-employees-in-company-memo-1201668421/

We have a little less than a year until "Rogue One" hits the theaters next December and 6 months after that..episode VIII....then the Han Solo prequels... leading into IX. With all the new IP these future films will generate Disney better have a plan.

 

[danlb_2000]

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Here is a picture of the Avatar project over at DAK. This is one show building on 10 acres vs. Two show buildings, additional attractions, retail, dining and all of the backstage items on 14 acres. Space will go quickly.

That is one show building, but there are two rides in it.

 

[Dead2009]

Do you ever get tired of saying the same thing over and over?

People never get tired of trying to drive their opinions down your throat until you finally listen to them lol

 

[copcarguyp71]

I heard from a bus driver that there will be a SW fifth gate with an Endoor speeder inspired monorail. No, I swear it's true!!!