Would you lock Disneyland in its 1989 state?

[Agent H]

Well, its because some just don't like the "Disney Adult" lifestyle era that we're living in now and so want to think of it as just a place for "kids to bring their parents".

But from day one the Park was setup to be successful with solo adults as well as families with kids, ie everyone.

Exactly.

 

[Consumer]

Except this goes against Walt's own vision of a Park for everyone. As while the idea sprung from wanting to place to take his daughters it morphed into being a place for everyone, even childless adults, as it took so long his daughters were already adults by the time it finished. Because even Walt in a now famous 1963 interview noted that the ratio of adults (what he called "oldsters") to kids ratio was 4-to-1, with it being primarily adults during the week.

Here is a video of that interview from 1963, the "oldster" part begins at 11:30, but I started it at the complete section on Disneyland so everyone can see the context -

That was back when Disneyland was respectable. Disneyland doesn't make entertainment for adults anymore.

 

[Disney Irish]

That was back when Disneyland was respectable. Disneyland doesn't make entertainment for adults anymore.

That makes absolutely no sense, especially given that a lot of childless adults go to Disneyland, something you've complained about in this very thread.

Disneyland continues to make entertainment for both adults and kids, even if its something that you personally don't enjoy.

 

[Consumer]

That makes absolutely no sense, especially given that a lot of childless adults go to Disneyland, something you've complained about this very thread.

That's because the adults who go to Disneyland are children.

Disneyland continues to make entertainment for both adults and kids

No they don't.

even if its something that you personally don't enjoy.

I enjoy entertainment for adults because I'm an adult.

I have nothing against an adult who wants to go to Disneyland to watch the Mark Twain paddle down the Rivers of America while eating popcorn and listening to a Dixieland jazz band. That is adult behavior I would expect to see in the great cities of America or Europe.

I do, however, take issue with the grown individual who "Disney-bounds" and spends copious amounts of money on the latest limited-time slop so they can post about it on their Instagram. That is behavior I expect to see in a middle school.

 

[Agent H]

That's because the adults who go to Disneyland are children.

No they don't.

I enjoy entertainment for adults because I'm an adult.

I have nothing against an adult who wants to go to Disneyland to watch the Mark Twain paddle down the Rivers of America while eating popcorn and listening to a Dixieland jazz band. That is adult behavior I would expect to see in the great cities of America or Europe.

I do, however, take issue with the grown individual who "Disney-bounds" and spends copious amounts of money on the latest limited-time slop so they can post about it on their Instagram. That is behavior I expect to see in a middle school.

1. No they are not. 2. I suppose all the new stuff they announced for the 70th doesn’t exist then. 3. What exactly constitutes “ entertainment for adults”? 4. Taste is subjective. I’m sorry you’re mad about the current state of the parks but it gives you no right to judge those who aren’t.

 

[Disney Irish]

That's because the adults who go to Disneyland are children.

I'm sorry but have you polled every adult that goes to Disneyland without a child? Have you verified they aren't "adult" because I seriously doubt it. This is a broad generalization without fact.

No they don't.

Last I looked they were building at least one ride that isn't going to be for kids due to height restrictions, one of the two that just broke ground last month.

I enjoy entertainment for adults because I'm an adult.

Says the kid of only like 23 yrs old.

I have nothing against an adult who wants to go to Disneyland to watch the Mark Twain paddle down the Rivers of America while eating popcorn and listening to a Dixieland jazz band. That is adult behavior I would expect to see in the great cities of America or Europe.

I do, however, take issue with the grown individual who "Disney-bounds" and spends copious amounts of money on the latest limited-time slop so they can post about it on their Instagram. That is behavior I expect to see in a middle school.

And you're broadly generalizing that every adult who goes to Disneyland without a child is there to "Disney-bound". That is something that you can't prove nor is it even true.

Also adults enjoy many things beyond just looking at the Mark Twain or eating popcorn, this is exactly the type of behavior Disney was against, because he wanted a Park where adults could enjoy ALL aspect of it just the same as kids. Because in case you hadn't realized it, Walt was just a big kid himself. Its the reason he had model trains in his backyard, something a "kid" would do.

 

[Consumer]

What exactly constitutes “ entertainment for adults”?

Entertainment that caters to those who brains are fully formed. Thoughtful, slow, academic activities. Museums, classical music, eating salads.

I'm sorry but have you polled very adult that goes to Disneyland without a child? Have you verified they aren't "adult" because I seriously doubt it. This is a broad generalization without fact.

Yes, I have.

Last I looked they were building at least one ride that isn't going to be for kids due to height restrictions, one of the two that just broke ground last month.

Do you think height determines maturity? Are you not aware that there are children who are over 4 feet tall?

Says the kid of only like 23 yrs old.

Weird thing to say, not to mention inaccurate. I'm a grown man with a career and will be starting work on Masters this fall.

And you're broadly generalizing that every adult who goes to Disneyland without a child is there to "Disney-bound". That is something that you can't prove nor is it even true.

Also adults enjoy many things beyond just looking at the Mark Twain or eating popcorn, this is exactly the type of behavior Disney was against, because he wants a Park where adults could enjoy ALL aspect of it just the same as kids. Because in case you hadn't realized it, Walt was just a big kid himself. Its the reason he had model trains in his backyard, something a "kid" would do.

There's nothing wrong with a day of escaping your adult responsibilities and indulging your childhood desires, but doing so without a child accompanying you is strange.

As a kid, I liked going to Chuck E. Cheese and playing the Star Wars arcade cabinet game. If I went to Chuck E. Cheese as a grown man without a child, I would be shamed, and rightly so. The same goes for Disneyland.

 

[PiratesMansion]

I enjoy entertainment for adults because I'm an adult.

That's not what your indignation about The Hanging at Knott's Scary Farm a few years ago would imply.

 

[Consumer]

That's not what your indignation about The Hanging at Knott's Scary Farm a few years ago would imply.

I genuinely don't even know what this is a reference to.

 

[Disney Irish]

Entertainment that caters to those who brains are fully formed. Thoughtful, slow, academic activities. Museums, classical music, eating salads.

Sorry, but that isn't the whole definition of an adult, or even adult activities.

Yes, I have.

Please provide the data to back up that claim.

Do you think height determines maturity? Are you not aware that there are children who are over 4 feet tall?

I think it determines it more than not.

Weird thing to say, not to mention inaccurate. I'm a grown man with a career and will be starting work on Masters this fall.

Son I'm more than twice your age, as are many here. This idea that you're some bastion of what it is to be an adult is funny.

Also do you think a degree makes you an adult? There are plenty of individuals who holds Masters degrees who can't even buy alcohol, not to mention that many adults don't hold a degree and function in society without being called a "kid". So this idea that this is somehow suppose to prove being an "adult" is not only false but down right insulting to many others on this planet.

There's nothing wrong with a day of escaping your adult responsibilities and indulging your childhood desires, but doing so without a child accompanying you is strange.

As a kid, I liked going to Chuck E. Cheese and playing the Star Wars arcade cabinet game. If I went to Chuck E. Cheese as a grown man without a child, I would be shamed, and rightly so. The same goes for Disneyland.

What a creepy thing to say, and also again inaccurate.

 

[Agent H]

Entertainment that caters to those who brains are fully formed. Thoughtful, slow, academic activities. Museums, classical music, eating salads



There's nothing wrong with a day of escaping your adult responsibilities and indulging your childhood desires, but doing so without a child accompanying you is strange.

As a kid, I liked going to Chuck E. Cheese and playing the Star Wars arcade cabinet game. If I went to Chuck E. Cheese as a grown man without a child, I would be shamed, and rightly so. The same goes for Disneyland

1. I’ll try not to take that personally.i hate salad 2. You know what else is strange? Complaining about places you don’t go. 3. No one would shame you because nobody cares!

 

[Consumer]

Son I'm more than twice your age, as are many here. This idea that you're some bastion of what it is to be an adult is funny.

Also do you think a degree makes you an adult? There are plenty of individuals who holds Masters degrees who can't even buy alcohol, not to mention that many adults don't hold a degree and function in society without being called a "kid". So this idea that this is somehow suppose to prove being an "adult" is not only false but down right insulting to many others on this planet.

You're twice my age and you spend your time on a Disney internet forum arguing with a guy who forgets about your existence as soon as he switches tabs.

 

[Agent H]

You're twice my age and you spend your time on a Disney internet forum arguing with a guy who forgets about your existence as soon as he switches tabs.

Again you’re one to talk. You complain about places you don’t visit. Non stop.

 

[Disney Irish]

You're twice my age and you spend your time on a Disney internet forum arguing with a guy who forgets about your existence as soon as he switches tabs.

Same son, same.

So it makes one have wonder why you log in here if you're such an "adult". Shouldn't you be above all this then? Hmm, me think sir doth protests too much.

 

[PiratesMansion]

I have to think a 'real adult' would have better things to do than spend time arguing online about a theme park he apparently is insecure about visiting.

Seems to me to be very...childish behavior.

 

[Consumer]

I'm just a D-1 hater

 

[flynnibus]

I’m curious for some of the people voting No - if you are old enough to have experienced Disneyland in 1989?

And what was your 1989 personal experience? and frequency?

 

[Agent H]

I'm just a D-1 hater

What’s d-1?

 

[Parteecia]

That's because the adults who go to Disneyland are children.

No they don't.

I enjoy entertainment for adults because I'm an adult.

I have nothing against an adult who wants to go to Disneyland to watch the Mark Twain paddle down the Rivers of America while eating popcorn and listening to a Dixieland jazz band. That is adult behavior I would expect to see in the great cities of America or Europe.

I do, however, take issue with the grown individual who "Disney-bounds" and spends copious amounts of money on the latest limited-time slop so they can post about it on their Instagram. That is behavior I expect to see in a middle school.

<sniff!> Anyone else smell a troll?

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

Because Disneyland is for families.

Disneyland is for everybody. If an adult wants to go on their own, they deserve to have a good time without being shamed for it.