With Its Theme Park Aging, Disney Faces New Challenges

speck76

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With Its Theme Park Aging,Disney Faces New Challenges

DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
July 14, 2005 5:16 p.m.


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LOS ANGELES (AP)--Hey Disneyland, you're about to celebrate your 50th anniversary. What are you going to do next?

As its prototype theme park hits the half-century mark Sunday, The Walt Disney Co. (DIS) is facing some critical challenges.

One is geographic. The company is set to open its 11th park in Hong Kong in September and could soon announce plans for another in mainland China. How many more places in the world can support a massive new multiday theme park?

Disney's biggest challenge, however, could be keeping the attention and dollars of a generation raised on video games that demands more control over their entertainment than most Disney attractions provide.

"Almost everything Disney does today is passive while kids today expect everything to be interactive," said Martin Lindstrom, a brand expert and author who has consulted for Disney and other companies such as Mattel Inc.
Disney is counting on the Internet, cellphones, digital projectors and other technology to make its parks more appealing to Gen-Y while maintaining the nostalgia that appeals to baby boomers.

"The problem is that they're not doing it the full way, they're doing it a little bit," Lindstrom said. "If they don't do it, five or six years from now they will have a major problem."

Disneyland was wildly innovative when it opened on July 17, 1955. Founder Walt Disney used robotic figures, holographs and panoramic movies in circular theaters to spin stories for children. With virtually no competition, he had little trouble capturing the imagination of the world.

Over the years, Disney has pioneered new technology in rides such as "Mission Space" at Epcot in Orlando, Fla., and the revamped "Space Mountain" in Anaheim, Calif. But these days, the company finds itself competing against parks that feature taller, faster and scarier thrill rides.

"Disney is always going to address the competition, and the competition isn't just other theme parks," said Bill Coan, a former Disney employee who is now with Itec Entertainment, which designs theme park attractions.

"It's video games, 120 channels of TV and shopping malls," he said.

The safety of new attractions will be a concern for Disney, which has long said it would never do anything to compromise the safety of its guests.

In Florida, a 16-year-old girl remained in critical condition after suffering cardiac arrest Tuesday on the "Twilight Zone Tower of Terror" thrill ride. A month ago, a 4-year-old boy passed out and died after riding Disney World's "Mission: Space" ride. His cause of death is still undetermined.

The "Twilight Zone" ride was reopened Wednesday after engineers deemed it safe, Disney said in a written statement that also reiterated concern for the girl and her family.

Disney's parks and resorts division earned $193 million in operating profit during the second fiscal quarter, up 3% from the same quarter last year. Attendance at Disney's domestic parks is beginning to approach pre-Sept. 11 levels, the company said when it released quarterly earnings in May.

Disney is already introducing innovations at its parks around the world. "Buzz Lightyear Astro Blasters" was recently unveiled at Disneyland. Riders turn circles in their cars while shooting laser cannons to defeat the evil Emperor Zurg.

They compete for points, but the interactivity doesn't end there. People at home can download a free video game and play right along with the riders in real time.

One of the more ambitious interactive experiments is the "Virtual Magic Kingdom," where players compete in cyberspace versions of Disney parks. They're given tasks, like finding images of Mickey Mouse hidden in the architecture, then receive points to "purchase" hats, T-shirts or other items for their online personas.

Cellphones also figure to play a role in parks of the future. An adventure game, for instance, could require guests to take a particular picture with their camera phone to activate an animated clue.


"I look at this group as the audience that we've always wanted," said Bruce Vaughn, vice president of research and development at Walt Disney Imagineering, which designs and builds theme parks and hotels.

"The more people want to be immersed and involved in the stories, the more opportunity there is for us to differentiate the theme park experience form any other sort of storytelling experience," he said.

That approach will be critical as the company expands overseas. Disney is planning a park in mainland China, perhaps Shanghai, to take advantage of that country's growing middle class.

It's also contemplating smaller, more regional parks in places like South Korea, Singapore and Australia. Those sites wouldn't necessarily be replicas of the "Magic Kingdom" but could be designed to appeal to local residents, said Jay Rasulo, president of Walt Disney Parks and Resorts.


"If it isn't the big weeklong destination or multiday destination, could it be a day destination for smaller markets and what would that product look like?" Rasulo said.

"I won't say we've studied in depth any of those markets, yet we do find a great deal of Disney affinity," he said. "I'm pretty optimistic that Asia - not only China but other places in Asia - are potential markets for us over the next 10 to 15 years."

In places such as South Korea, where nearly 100% of the population has a high-speed Internet hookup, Disney would be compelled to emphasize interactive rides and attractions.

Analysts said there is a risk in moving too fast to attract tech-savvy kids at the expense of adults who recall more traditional park offerings with nostalgia.

Disney has always emphasized family entertainment, unlike some parks where parents drop off kids to enjoy thrill rides.


"There is always going to be a challenge to match up technology and gimmicks with good story," Coan said. "They have to be careful not to isolate their entertainment and attractions to boys 8-18."
 

mkepcotmgmak

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this is HORRIBLE news to me.

i don't want any other disney parks built! i really didn't want hong kong to be built, but with China's population, i know the park will be okay... BUT...

if disney keeps on building parks, do you agree that they would be branded like a six flags? they are everywhere! you have to keep the supply low on something SO GREAT, to keep it great.

i wish they would invest money into the existing parks before venturing out into other areas. building disney based parks in south koreao and those areas does NOT sound like a great idea... i could see one in australia, but then the Aussies wouldn't have a reason to come here! :lookaroun
 

speck76

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The Aussies do not come here anyway......

There are over 5 BILLION people in this world.....currently, Disney parks are accessible to less than 1 Billion people

Of the 55 million visitors to Orlando this year, only 2.2 million will be from International locations (with the VAST majority coming from Canada and the UK)

It is not such a small world afterall......
 

DisneyRoxMySox

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It's also contemplating smaller, more regional parks in places like South Korea, Singapore and Australia. Those sites wouldn't necessarily be replicas of the "Magic Kingdom" but could be designed to appeal to local residents, said Jay Rasulo, president of Walt Disney Parks and Resorts.

That just doesn't sit right with me, I just don't like it. I agree keep it low, so people can appreciate it more, I might write a letter to them about how I feel about this, it doesn't make me feel good at all.
 

speck76

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DisneyRoxMySox said:
That just doesn't sit right with me, I just don't like it. I agree keep it low, so people can appreciate it more, I might write a letter to them about how I feel about this, it doesn't make me feel good at all.

But many of these people can not appreciate it at all right now.......

What I see you saying is "keep it low so WE can appreciate it more"
 

DisneyRoxMySox

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speck76 said:
But many of these people can not appreciate it at all right now.......

What I see you saying is "keep it low so WE can appreciate it more"

That isn't what I mean at all. It does seem like it was said before, like we are becoming six flags :hurl: , so everyone can appreciate it. I feel for countires that aren't as rich as us, we have it good here. But, I don't know, you bring up a good point, but that is not what I meant by that statement. Doing that, doesn't seem like a Disney thing to do.
 

Testtrack321

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Disney has nothing to worry about, they arn't a regional "go in the afternoon" park, they are a destination resort for vacations. VACATIONS. I'd be more worried about Cedar Fair and Six Flags than for Disney. Overall, this article is a waste of time, continue on...
 

mkepcotmgmak

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speck76 said:
But many of these people can not appreciate it at all right now.......

What I see you saying is "keep it low so WE can appreciate it more"

i totally see what you are saying, and it makes perfect sense... this might sound bad, but i think it's more of a brand thing.

take wal-mart in any town, vs. your favorite store that is not in your town. which would you rather go to?
 

basas

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speck76 said:
The Aussies do not come here anyway......

There are over 5 BILLION people in this world.....currently, Disney parks are accessible to less than 1 Billion people

Of the 55 million visitors to Orlando this year, only 2.2 million will be from International locations (with the VAST majority coming from Canada and the UK)

It is not such a small world afterall......

Actually, alot of Aussies visit DLR.

But anyway, do you suggest putting a park in every single country so 'everyone can experience it'? You just can't please everyone. I think Disney already covers a pretty wide area. Europe with DLP, North/South America with WDW and DLR, and Asia with TDL and HKDL.
 

speck76

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DisneyRoxMySox said:
That isn't what I mean at all. It does seem like it was said before, like we are becoming six flags :hurl: , so everyone can appreciate it. I feel for countires that aren't as rich as us, we have it good here. But, I don't know, you bring up a good point, but that is not what I meant by that statement. Doing that, doesn't seem like a Disney thing to do.

Perhaps it is not the "historical" Disney thing to do, but it will only build the brand and the revenues to build in these highly-populated markets where they currently have no penetration.

Disney is "mature" in North America and Western Europe, along with Japan.......but that is pretty much it. The only way now to significantly grow the company is to reach out into markets that are currently not "mature"
 

speck76

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basas said:
Actually, alot of Aussies visit DLR.

But anyway, do you suggest putting a park in every single country so 'everyone can experience it'? You just can't please everyone. I think Disney already covers a pretty wide area. Europe with DLP, North/South America with WDW and DLR, and Asia with TDL and HKDL.

I am not sure about DLR, but less than 1 million people visit Orlando (not just WDW) from South America each year.....out of 365,000,000 people.

Asia has over 2.5 BILLION people.....and according to the OLC website, over 95% of the guests to TDL/TDS come from METRO TOKYO. So, the I would not consider the 1.1million people that visit TDL/TDS each year to be penetrating the 2.5 Billion people of ASIA in any significant manner.

Does every country need one.....no...not at all. But is their still significant room for growth on this planet......yeah.
 

basas

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speck76 said:
I am not sure about DLR, but less than 1 million people visit Orlando (not just WDW) from South America each year.....out of 365,000,000 people.

Asia has over 2.5 BILLION people.....and according to the OLC website, over 95% of the guests to TDL/TDS come from METRO TOKYO. So, the I would not consider the 1.1million people that visit TDL/TDS each year to be penetrating the 2.5 Billion people of ASIA in any significant manner.

Does every country need one.....no...not at all. But is their still significant room for growth on this planet......yeah.

Lets remember a lot of those 2.5 billion Asians, and many in South America too aren't as wealthy as your average North American and wouldn't even consider 'vacationing' to the parks. Not to mention, if Disney was an Asian enterprise, i might see the need to make sure every Asian had a Disney park in close proximity to their home town, but they’re not.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
 

speck76

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mkepcotmgmak said:
i totally see what you are saying, and it makes perfect sense... this might sound bad, but i think it's more of a brand thing.

take wal-mart in any town, vs. your favorite store that is not in your town. which would you rather go to?

Well, I don't shop at Wal-Mart EVER :lol:

Think of it like Emeril's Restaurant.

He has 2 restaurants in Orlando, 3 in New Orleans, 2 in Vegas, 1 in Atlanta, and 1 in Miami Beach. Would you say he has saturated the market? Are his restaurants still exclusive and popular?

Now, Planet Hollywood was the opposite. They wanted to have a franchise in EVERY major city......and it backfired, as the restaurant lost its the appeal of being something special to go to (and the food sucked).....msot are now closed.

Should Disney open 50 parks.......hell no......but will 5 or 6 locations in parts of the world that both never travel to the existing parks, and do not get visited by a large amount of people where existing parks are located hurt the company.....probably not.
 

DisJosh

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mkepcotmgmak said:
this is HORRIBLE news to me.

i don't want any other disney parks built! i really didn't want hong kong to be built, but with China's population, i know the park will be okay... BUT...

if disney keeps on building parks, do you agree that they would be branded like a six flags? they are everywhere! you have to keep the supply low on something SO GREAT, to keep it great.

i wish they would invest money into the existing parks before venturing out into other areas. building disney based parks in south koreao and those areas does NOT sound like a great idea... i could see one in australia, but then the Aussies wouldn't have a reason to come here! :lookaroun

Having parks spread world wide can hardly be compared to the way six flags parks are sprouting up all over the US. Disney is reaching a far larger market by expanding internationally. It can only do good things for the company. As far as ruining the uniqueness of a Disney park for fans like us...

Unless you have the time and money to park hop from continent to continent, I wouldn't worry. ;)
 

stitchcastle

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I'm all for it!, means more jobs for the Imagineers, more encouraged creativity, and more uniqueness to each park.

As long as it isn't a clone-o-rama, I'm happy...besides this expansion is good so that positions in imagineering would be in ridiculously high demand that they'd even hire me :D
 

Woody13

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DisJosh said:
Unless you have the time and money to park hop from continent to continent, I wouldn't worry. ;)
Yes. I have always wanted to visit DLP and ride the Haunted Mansion with a French prostitute, or visa versa. :eek:
 

speck76

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Another great examples are casinos.....

Back in the early-mid 90's when I Was in college, the big worry of Las Vegas was the rise of Riverboat Casinos, Casinos on the Gulf Coast, and Indian Casinos. LV thought that these casinos would steal all of their business.

The opposite happened.

People would visit these casinos, and they would have so much fun that they would then visit the "real" casinos in Las Vegas. Business in LV went way up, and a ton of new casinos were built there to handle the growing demand.

WDW still gets visitors from Japan, even though, according to most people, the parks in Tokyo are far superior to those here in the states.
 

dave2822

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The article is stretching it a bit. Disney parks never just "pop" up like Six Flags, and they aren't exactly right next door to each other either. These potential plans could be happening many years from now, and I for one am willing to trust WDI in making them all special.

As far as this "Gen-Y" threat, this article mine as well be repeated every decade, subsituting some main changes here and there. Decades ago, Disney needed more thrill rides to capture its audience. Now they need more interactive rides, etc etc. Disney has been around for so long, and will be around forever, because they are everchanging and adapt to their audiences. There always will be something for everyone.
 

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