I've read rumors, such as the ones on Miceage.com, that DCA will start heavily renovating their park. One way they will change is that pretty much everything in Paradise Pier, with the exception of California Screamin' and possibly the Sun Wheel, will be taken out, and a new San Francisco-Pixar theme will be done in this place. This seems extremely odd to me. Has anyone else heard these rumors? Personally, I along with many other people I've talked to love Paradise Pier the way it is, especially at night with all the lights! I would hate to see it go away. What do you all think?
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Will they actually get rid of Paradise Pier at DCA?
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golden redhead
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No, I haven't heard anything and I was just there a couple of weeks ago.
I don't know.
Personally, I would like to see the idea of Paradise Pier put to rest. I don't care if it is authentic or even better than authentic. It is not pleasing to the eyes during the daytime. Too much structure is exposed, too many ideas directly evolve from the real world.
BUT, I don't really want a Pixar invasion either. Whatever it does become, I would like to see a new nighttime show (i.e., Illuminations) come to DCA. I think the whole park has great potential.
Maybe they could make the park into city, forrest, and coastal areas
(kinda already is, I guess). That way, ocean motifs could be added to the pier area.
Personally, I would like to see the idea of Paradise Pier put to rest. I don't care if it is authentic or even better than authentic. It is not pleasing to the eyes during the daytime. Too much structure is exposed, too many ideas directly evolve from the real world.
BUT, I don't really want a Pixar invasion either. Whatever it does become, I would like to see a new nighttime show (i.e., Illuminations) come to DCA. I think the whole park has great potential.
Maybe they could make the park into city, forrest, and coastal areas
(kinda already is, I guess). That way, ocean motifs could be added to the pier area.
3IAlienKid
Member
The website you refer to is usually pretty accurate when it comes to breaking news of Disneyland activity. So I'd say what's in the article is generally true for now - although as with everything Disney, plans do get modified before they are eventually built.
As for the Paradise Pier retheming, the article doesn't make it sound to me like Pixar will be that much of an influence as the San Francisco theming will. Where Pixar fits in is that one of the new rides - Midway Madness - would have specifically Toy Story characters since toys are what you'd win in a midway game like the ones they currently have there, so I'd hope we don't have to worry about heavy Pixarization throughout the entire area.
As for the Paradise Pier retheming, the article doesn't make it sound to me like Pixar will be that much of an influence as the San Francisco theming will. Where Pixar fits in is that one of the new rides - Midway Madness - would have specifically Toy Story characters since toys are what you'd win in a midway game like the ones they currently have there, so I'd hope we don't have to worry about heavy Pixarization throughout the entire area.
Actually, to me it does seem like it will be all Pixar. Like I said before, they are taking pretty much everything out. I think personally that it is a well done theme, because it does remind me of the coastal amusement parks from years ago, only cleaner.
Saying that it is too much real world is like saying Epcot is bad because it is too much the real world from the countries.
DisneyRoxMySox
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I think they should just turn it in to a water park..
I think it is the most un-like Disney park out there.
I think it is the most un-like Disney park out there.
I think it is the most un-like Disney park out there.
What do you mean by that? If you are comparing the park to the Magic Kingdom/original Disneyland park, then every park Disney has built since is "un-Disney." But I will miss it if it truly does go. I really enjoyed it. I certainly got the Disney feeling when I walked through the park. But I guess different strokes for different folks. If it does go away, maybe my DCA monorail toys will go up in value.
DisneyRoxMySox
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Let's break it down by lands.
The entrance to the park is similar to any Disney park. Shops filled with great Disney merchandise leading up to the park's icon. In this case..it's a sun? What's so great about this? It doesn't compare at all to the wonderful icon's we have in other Disney parks..Great Casltes, Spaceship Earth, Tree of Life. The sun, is small and ugly.
Hollywood Pictures Backlot-As I like to call it..the smaller version of the Disney-MGM Studios. Porbably the best area in the park. Quality rides and attractions. This section of the park, I really don't have a problem with this area of the park.
A Bug's Land-The smaller version of Animal Kingdom! I suppose this park was needed for smaller kids. Because other than the rides in this section of the park, there isn't a whole lot to do for smaller kids. I didn't step foot into this area becasuse..there was nothing for me to do there.
Golden State-The theming for this land, I guess is just..California? I really couldn't tell you. GRR takes up the entire land! Too much space for a water raft ride. I know, space is an isslie in DL..but come on. Soarin' is great! But then a torillia tour? I have never seen so much corporate sponsorship in any Disney park.
Paradise Pier-No theming land! Come ride an ordinary roller coaster! Play carnival games! Ride a swing in an orange or do the same thing with no orange! Ride the Tower of Terror..outside..with no theming! I think that land..is a Six Flags.
Ok, I'll admit I am not the best at proving my point or expressing my feelings. It just seems to me that Disney fell short of producing the Disney Theme Park, that I have come to know and love.
Well, the sun is supposed to represent California's spirit. It is in the Sunshine Plaza after all. The raft ride has to take up a lot of space, or it wouldn't be that much or a ride. A Bug's Land really has no similarity to Animal Kingdom apart from the It's Tough to be a Bug! attraction, which has a completely different outside fascade. The tortilla tour is supposed to demonstrate the diverse culture of California. As for Corporate sponsorship, I don't really understand where you are coming from. There is a ton of corporate sponsorship in WDW. Many rides are sponsored like Kodak sponsors all the 3-D shows. Practically everything in Epcot has a sponsor. Just look at the post show area/General Motors car display at the end of Test Track. All I can say is that for Paradise Pier, the amusement park is the theme. They probably wouldn't have put the Maliboomer in the park if they built the Tower of Terror first, but then again, in the Magic Kingdom; Dumbo, Magic Carpets of Aladdin, and Astro Orbitor are all the same, relatively speaking.
Tim G
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Very unlikely... unless they're talking about in 10 years or so...
DisneyRoxMySox
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IMHO, I think it is still the worst icon out there. It's just a lame principle.
Yeah, you're right. But the ride isn't that good for it to be the parks signature attraction, or at least..one of them.
That's what the area reminds me of, a small Animal Kingdom. As I said, I never went in there, I don't know what it is like.
Aside from Test Track, all other sponsorships get signs. They don't get advertising like restaurants in the parks, factories, wineries. They could put something much better there than a totilla factory.
Yeah well, it's a bad theme. It's bad at AK with Chester and Hester's Dinorama and it's bad in DCA.
Aladdin was built out of necessity for a shorter lines at Dumbo. Let me tell you, there is no problem with lines at DCA.
Let's face it, the park isn't that great and that is shown by attendance numbers, something simply has to be done.
What about Dinoland U.S.A.? It is sponsored by McDonalds, and even has a McDonald's restaurant. I personally like Chester and Hester Dinorama. As for attendance, they have certainly gone up at DCA, despite what many think. Many people I have spoke to think Paradise Pier is a great area. It is beautiful when it is all lit up at night. DCA has a nice atmosphere, and is quite enjoyable. I went during the spring and some lines at DCA were over an hour and a half.
disneylandkid
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Wow, lets take a quick look at disneyland circa 1955... there was a ton of corporate sponsorship, there had to be in order for disneyland to even be in existence and without disneyland you people would not have had your beloved disney world. And i don't hear you damming walt for using sponsors to bring us unique attractions. Take a look at epcot too!
That is what I'm saying. Sponsorship is certainly nothing new.
DisneyRoxMySox
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...I said I have never seen so much. I wasn't in Disneyland in 1955. I don't have problems with sponsorships..I have problems with companies sponsoring sorry excuses for attractions.
Yes, I forgot about the Mickey D's in AK. I stand corrected.
What Miceage.com is saying seems too extreme too quickly. I think we'll be with Paradise Pier for a while. (Thankfully! 
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ScrapIron
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What Miceage.com is saying seems too extreme too quickly. I think we'll be with Paradise Pier for a while. (Thankfully!
It can't be quickly enough. One can see a seaside amusement park right now in either Santa Monica or Santa Cruz; a reproduction isn't needed. And too quickly? I respectfully suggest you find some ariel photos of DL in 1955 and 1960 and see how much changed in 5 years. The only thing new in DCA after 5 years is Bug Land (decent idea poorly executed) and ToT; a few other things are different. In 1959, the Matterhorn, Subs and Monorail opened on the same day! The Viewliner train lasted one year. Not because it was problematic or unpopular, but because there were new and better ideas. Losing Mulholland Madness (makes PW look like a masterpiece), Orange Stinger (available in shopping center parking lots when the carnival rolls through), Jumping Jellyfish (exciting if you're under 5), Golden Zepher (exciting to no one and unuseable with winds over 10 MPH-NO exaggeration on that either) and Maliboomer (the only one I even bother with) will not cause many tears to be shed.
Cheers.