Will there ever be a ride that surpasses Spiderman at IOA?

[retroeric]

Spidey opened up almost 7 years ago, and there stil hasn't been a ride (at either WDW or USF) to surpass it in terms of technological achievement. How long do you think it will be before either company designs a ride that tops this masterpiece?

 

[Legacy]

It will come. Busch Gardens Williamsburg opened Curse of Darkastle last year which uses the Spiderman technology, so the exclusive use of the technology has expired. But it will come. Once C.A.V.E. technology becomes cost efficient we will see more progress I'm sure.

 

[wdwmagic]

Spidey opened up almost 7 years ago, and there stil hasn't been a ride (at either WDW or USF) to surpass it in terms of technological achievement. How long do you think it will be before either company designs a ride that tops this masterpiece?

I would say Mission Space and Test Track surpass Spiderman in terms of technology. In terms of sheer enjoyment, lots of WDW attraction surpacess Spiderman. Such as ToT, Splash Mountain, and the list goes on.

 

[peter11435]

I would say Mission Space and Test Track surpass Spiderman in terms of technology. In terms of sheer enjoyment, lots of WDW attraction surpacess Spiderman. Such as ToT, Splash Mountain, and the list goes on.

I agree. Like it or not Mission: Space is far more technologicaly advanced than Spiderman. And as far as overall best attraction I don't think Spiderman ever held that title. To me it was never better than ToT, Indiana Jones or Splash Mountain.

 

[spacemtnfanatic]

Spiderman is fun, and definately has cool technology. But it's far from being on my list of favorites, and as previously stated, several Disney (and i'd even argue other Universal rides) surpass the Spiderman technology.

 

[Rayray]

Test Track, Mission: Space, Soarin', Winnie the Pooh in Tokyo (GPS Navigation), Tower of Terror, and now EE match or surpass spiderman's technology.

 

[SallyShine]

Spiderman is my favorite at Universal, maybe my top 5 for all Orlando parks. But, I haven't been on Soarin or EE, yet.

 

[crazydaveh]

Spidey is one of the top rides in the country (IMO). There are rides who's technology is more advanced than Spidey, but just about every major new dark ride will be compared to Spidey when it comes out.

M:S, EE, and other Disney attractions are different. They may have newer technology but it's a different thrill.

I love M:S, I think it's awesome. I'll still wait in a 70 minute line for ToT, but they're all different thrills!

It depends on the rider and honestly which park they favor! Believe it or not, there are some people who can't stand Uni rides, Disney rides, or other parks rides because they're loyal to their park! Me, I like them all. Why hate when they're there to give us a good time!

 

[DisneyWales]

Spiderman

I have to aggre with the OP to some extent. While I feel TOT, Test Track, Pooh and Aquatopia in Tokyo ec. ect. are very advanced rides, Spiderman is a very impressive ride and IMO the best use of 3D ive ever seen (Phillharmagic wins on execution and picture quality).

I would really like to see Disney use the cave technology, with all Disney's franchises this could be so cool. But im sure Disney have their own reasons for not wanting this.

I guess they would only want to introduce the system if they could improve it, make their experiance better than Universals, otherwise they are only offering something themed different from whats up the road. Just my thoughts on that.

 

[peter11435]

I have to aggre with the OP to some extent. While I feel TOT, Test Track, Pooh and Aquatopia in Tokyo ec. ect. are very advanced rides, Spiderman is a very impressive ride and IMO the best use of 3D ive ever seen (Phillharmagic wins on execution and picture quality).

I would really like to see Disney use the cave technology, with all Disney's franchises this could be so cool. But im sure Disney have their own reasons for not wanting this.

I guess they would only want to introduce the system if they could improve it, make their experiance better than Universals, otherwise they are only offering something themed different from whats up the road. Just my thoughts on that.

Just so you know Spiderman does not use C.A.V.E. technology. It is similar in some ways but it is not C.A.V.E.

 

[retroeric]

I agree. Like it or not Mission: Space is far more technologicaly advanced than Spiderman. And as far as overall best attraction I don't think Spiderman ever held that title. To me it was never better than ToT, Indiana Jones or Splash Mountain.

Test Track, Mission: Space, Soarin', Winnie the Pooh in Tokyo (GPS Navigation), Tower of Terror, and now EE match or surpass spiderman's technology.

Please tell me you are kidding. M:S, Soarin etc are great rides, but they are no where near as technoligically advanced as Spiderman. It would be silly to even try making an argument for them, especially Soarin'.

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[peter11435]

Please tell me you are kidding. M:S, Soarin etc are great rides, but they are no where near as technoligically advanced as Spiderman. It would be silly to even try making an argument for them, especially Soarin'.

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While Soarin is not. Mission: Space is more technologically advanced than Spiderman. Spiderman is great but the ride is a combination of existing technolgy. It is essentially a tracked EMV that combines sets and 3-D images. One could argue that Indiana Jones (which opened 4 years yearlier) is as advanced if not more so than Spiderman.

 

[StevenT]

The problem with the question of "Will there ever be a ride that surpasses the technology of Spiderman?" is the word "technology". Technology can be used in so many different ways to enhance the experience of a ride. It is impossible to say that one ride (in this case Spiderman) is the current pinnacle of technology. For this reason it is impossible to use Spiderman as a common place amongst the users of this forum as the universal technological comparison point.

One could argue that the complexities of the motor vechicle is one of the greatest acheivments in human innovation and that it remains one of the great technologies due to it's far reaching impact and long standing usefulness. Combining a large, do anything off road vehicle with advances in landscape engineering and zoological practices to keep the animals visible and the barriers not; Kilimanjaro Safari could be argued to be the one of the most technological advanced rides. Even though a ride seems simple it doesn't mean it isn't really innovative. Kilimanjaro Safari is technologically innovative in ways completly different from Spiderman, and likewise so are Tower of Terror, Expedition Eversest, Mission Space, Indiana Jones and so on.

To put my point simply, you can't choose the most technologically advanced ride because there is such a variety.

 

[retroeric]

Spiderman.. is essentially a tracked EMV that combines sets and 3-D images.

Well if you want to simplify it like that, Mission Space is essentially a Gravitron with a television. Spiderman excels at doing something no other ride has ever done. Combine those three different elements and turns it into a seamless ride experience. M:S is more one-dimensional. It's pretty much just a 3D movie while you're spinning in a circle, at different speeds. And no real life sets either.

I think it's safe to say Spiderman was an infinitely more challenging ride to create than M:S.

 

[peter11435]

I think it's safe to say Spiderman was an infinitely more challenging ride to create than M:S.

If thats what you want to believe.

 

[retroeric]

If thats what you want to believe.

I really do like both rides. Maybe you can explain why M:S is a more technologically advanced ride. Enlighten me, because I obviously don't know what I am talking about.

 

[WDWFantasmic]

If thats what you want to believe.

:lol:

 

[grandmath]

I agree with retroeric. As much as I love Mission Space and other Disney rides, I never found one that blew me away as Spiderman did. To me, it was groundbreaking because it mixed such different technologies to create one seamless experience. Every scene has new effects, is beautiful, is greatly executed.

Mission Space is great but yeah, the thrills are always the same. Splash is cool, but it is one big dark ride with some drops in it. Indy is GREAT but is still an EMV with giant dark ride sets. Soarin is great but reminds me of BTTF the ride, and is still a suspended simulator in front of an Omnimax screen. Everest is a wonderfully themed coaster, but still a coaster, with a big AA thrown in. TOT is a wonderfully themed freefall ride with the biggest innovation coming in the horizontal movment of the elevator.

I have yet to find another ride that will provide a complete new experience as Spiderman did the day it opened. Even the Mummy was disappointing, for that they promised a ride superior to Spiderman, but it was just a coaster mixed in with a dark ride. Whatever the technological advances used, I speak about the "experience". To me Spiderman is different (is it a dark ride, a 4d film, a live sfx show, a spinning ride, a simulator, a simulated free fall etc...?), the other rides are just advanced "coasters or simulators or free falls or dark rides or flume rides".

 

[Epcot82Guy]

As much as this debate will rage on as it always does every time these questions come up, I agree the OPs question has the problem of technology. I will agree that Spiderman is up there is bringing together technology. M:S is also, but the technology used for the two are very different. It would be more appropriate to compare Spiderman to Indy, although the "age" gap of their creation is great. It's a tough question to answer. As for experience, I have never been reserved in saying Spiderman was one of the greater disappointments I have seen in an attraction. When I finally made it to IOA in 2002, we went right to it, and it did nothing for me. I am one that doesn't like screen technology, though. 3-D has never done much for me, and the combination of real sets with that just adds to the distinction to me.

I am not trying to say anyone who likes it is wrong at all. I guess I just can't understand feeling that Spiderman is an objectively "mind blowing" experience. Technology is useless in art unless it is put into creative contexts. The attractions that are exceptional have something beyond amazing tech in Orlando. It's an X factor of sorts, and I think that, albeit a more difficult one, is a better comparison.

 

[dxwwf3]

I think a better question would be "Will there be another thrill ride that is as thrilling and is as much fun as Spider Man?" and I haven't seen one since Spidy was created. ROTM tried and failed miserably (in my opinion) and I do not expect Expedition Everest to be as thrilling as Spidy. I think Spider Man deserves to be in the same sentence with Splash Mountain and Tower of Terror as being the top 4 or 5 attractions in Central Florida. Mission Space is fun and is themed well, but I just do not find it to be all that intense or thrilling (but maybe that's just the tone of the attraction). The motion combined with the effects of Spidy make it seem so much more fun.

So I, for one, am still waiting for something to top Spider Man and I hope I don't have to wait too many more years