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Will DCA be a Complete, Well Rounded and Full Day Park after the New Rides Open?
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Disney Vault
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The park will still need more entertainment. Something new and fresh in the hyperion. An avengers drone show like Paris would be great in the Campus. And the pier really needs a better update because the last one made it uglier.
DarkMetroid567
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Yes — it practically already is, it’d be hard to argue what is a full day park if this somehow isn’t post-Pandora
haha I was going to put "Not until Pixar Pier gets a retheme" but I ran out of slots
While that would be nice I don't think thats what it would be holding it back from being a complete park. It has WOC and has parades off and on. I don't know - maybe because I'm not a huge entertainment/ spectacular guy. Now streetmosphere/ bands - yes.
I didn't really think about what my answer was going to be when I created this poll. My brain wants to say it'll certainly be a full day park after the new four rides open. My heart though wants another coaster and another dark ride based on beloved Disney IP or Up. I guess I think it'll be a full day park but not necessarily complete (for me) if that makes any sense.
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PiratesMansion
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I think at the very least the Hyperion needs to be running with either a show that people love OR Disney needs to be willing to put in a rotating array of shows. It's such a wasted asset as it stands right now.
DCA has also lost a lot of streetmosphere-type entertainment from 2012. Goofy Concert, Minnie's Fly Girls, Mickey's Red Trolley Show, Glow Fest/Mad T Party, etc. As much as we go after Disneyland for cutting back entertainment, they still have some strolling acts. DCA is basically down to Five & Dime, that stupid Toy Story Toy Soldier show, and Citizens of BVS AND has recently cut a lot of the Marvel entertainment.
My best DCA visit recently by far was actually over Christmas/New Years Week, where the park was positively bursting with entertainment. It really brought the park to life in a way I hadn't experienced in ages. It made me actually want to stay in the park and not hop over to Disneyland.
Ride-wise, it'd be great if they'd stop sabotaging their lineup for no reason, but I think what it most needs are some knockout, must-experience family rides, something to take some pressure off of RSR. Right now, you have RSR as one of the top resort experiences and a bunch of stuff surrounding it that's varying degrees of fine but not particularly exciting or stimulating. And as much as I don't personally care much for the ride, there should be some sort of replacement for Monsters Inc.
Most importantly, once all of these big flashy additions are in place, Disney needs to avoid the temptation to fix what isn't broken, something they have seemed utterly unable to do outside of Cars Land, ruining in large and subtle ways much of the promise that 2012 brought. What's the point of spending billions to add rides and make the park better if it's just going to be undone by the spontaneous whims of another clueless exec five years later?
BrianLo
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You can always find an excuse for wanting more. But yes as a single day full day offering it started to meet that benchmark successfully in 2012.
As an AP day trip burning through highlights? Close, but maybe not.
The only overt issue is the current missing entertainment that needs to technically return. But the attraction menu is quite diverse. Would an indoor coaster be nice? Yes. Does it need one? No, it has already a few good thrill rides.
As an AP day trip burning through highlights? Close, but maybe not.
The only overt issue is the current missing entertainment that needs to technically return. But the attraction menu is quite diverse. Would an indoor coaster be nice? Yes. Does it need one? No, it has already a few good thrill rides.
I kind of just assume it’s inevitable that the Hyperion becomes a ride at some point considering where it’s located and how much it’s been neglected but yeah it’s a shame how it’s just sitting there empty.
Yeah the only streetmosphere I actually enjoy is the 5 n Dime but also don’t particularly feel like the park is lacking in that department. Perhaps because I’m accustomed to or perhaps because the stage at Paradise Gardens does some heavy lifting. It’s my favorite place to relax at DCA and you have a good band playing there often.
Tell me about it. So much money/ resources wasted on Mission Breakout and Pixar Pier. Hoping the new rides will be the family rides the park needs. The boat rides won’t have a height requirement so that’s good. I mean yo can throw San Fransokyo and Soarin Around the World in there too even if they are not as egregious.
Unfortunately Monsters is the sacrificial lamb. Not because it’s my favorite ride (it’s fine) but you’re losing a much needed family ride at DCA. So if we don’t count Avengers or Star Flight Lab as family rides that means we have a net gain of only one family attraction and that’s if Avatar doesn’t scare some people away. I have to imagine it’ll at least have a slightly narrower demo that can or will be willing to ride. In a perfect world they could have found a way to keep it but that would require Avatar going to the Simba Lot which would make it a much longer term project.
Yeah it definitely will be a full day park in 2030. So I guess I voted wrong and went with my heart and skewed more toward what completion feels like to me. I’m not quite sure I’d classify it as a full day park now unless one is willing to spend a lot of time on flat / carny rides. As far as being “complete” that’s a bit more subjective. An indoor coaster and a suspended Up ride or just any attraction (or two) based on any Disney or Pixar IP with some heart would really round off the park for me. The latter don’t even need to be E tickets. DCA will have the “fun” and “adventure” down. I just feel like it’s missing some charm/ heart. It’s losing a little of that with Monsters. It’ll be getting a lot back with Coco though.
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Well for sure it’ll never be Disneyland. I didn’t really touch on park cohesion, “soul” or thematic integrity as I don’t think that has any bearing on DCA being a full day park but to your point I think it has a lot do with it feeling “Complete.”
Rich T
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It’s hard for me to judge DCA as a stand-alone entity because of its location and its (odd) history.
I look at it this way: If parkhopper options weren’t available, would I gladly pay full price for a day at DCA? If it was in the middle of Nebraska, and I happened to be in Nebraska with no other park options, then yes.
But in Anaheim with Disneyland a Frisbee toss away? No way. But as a DL add-on for a couple of hours, sure. Will the additions change my mind? I’m not counting on it, but I’d love to be wrong.
I see your point. It’s just hard for me to play along with the hypothetical because as a long time AP I wouldn’t pay full price for a day with the family at Disneyland either at today’s prices. As long as DCA is right next door and park hopping is included, both parks are one product for all intents and purposes.
EPCOTCenterLover
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I think DCA is still lacking. 2012 was a good beginning but they started replacing a great theme that was working with layovers that diluted the charm and cohesiveness.
It needs one more major coaster, some smaller Disney quality rides that are not flat rides, and it needs some sort of transportation bringing energy. Here's hoping Coco is done excellently and that they don't blow the chance they had with Mermaid. (It should have been fully fleshed out without the cheaper scenes.)
Even with the additions to Avengers Campus and Pandora, I'm skeptical about how it will all turn out.
It needs one more major coaster, some smaller Disney quality rides that are not flat rides, and it needs some sort of transportation bringing energy. Here's hoping Coco is done excellently and that they don't blow the chance they had with Mermaid. (It should have been fully fleshed out without the cheaper scenes.)
Even with the additions to Avengers Campus and Pandora, I'm skeptical about how it will all turn out.
BrianLo
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Ya and I guess you asked three different questions there.
Will it be full day? Ya, it will have 11 D/E tickets. A huge smattering of flats. A solid night spectacular (+/- the parade and Hyperion as conditions of my thumbs up). Very good food options.
Will it be well rounded? Two massively spectacular unique F tickets (Radiator Springs and Pandora). A much better assortment of indoor dark rides. Indoor boat rides! Two of the forthcoming ones seem all ages accessible. Then the third one I'm quite high on the Spider-pan system. Despite no indoor coaster, it does have a great assortment of thrill rides of all sorts. Coco will ensure another needed animatronic adventure.
Will it be complete? No park is.
Ya I guess I did. To create more thoughtful conversation. It’s pretty clear in 2030 that it’ll be a full day park if we’re going off sheer stuff to do
True. And If they do ever expand on the Simba lot of imagine an indoor coaster is in order.
Except Disneyland