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Why so long?
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CTXRover
Well-Known Member
I totally agree Philharmagic seems to be taking longer than needed, but not to be nitpicky
) ) its really taking closer to 1 1/2 yrs to build Philharmagic, not 2 years (if it soft opens in early Sept.). As I said before, from what I understand, Shrek is going into a theater already designed for a 3D show of its physical size (the theater is being renovated, obviously) while Philharmagic's theater needed to be completely REDESIGNED to accomodate its respective 3D show (i.e. the theater wasn't designed for a 3D show of its size.) If I'm correct, I think this would obviously make Philharmagic take longer. Probably another 1/2 year to tear out the old theater and build the new one (within the shell of a building) as compared to renovating an existing theater. (This is the last time I will say this. I promise. I'm beginning to sound like a broken record :lol:
)As Steve said, it will really depend on how extensive each went with its renovations, but I think Philharmagic was more extensive and thus its longer time required to build.
Sir Hiss527
New Member
You have no idea how long it takes to build an attraction. First you got to come up with the idea, and concept. Next build the basic building, then make all the little nessicites that make up the ride, and then they have to ride the ride millions of times to see if everything is ok. Then it will be open to guests. You can't just make a ride, and just start letting people ride it.
magicjay1989
New Member
like they have been saying befor. Shrek was already started in hollywood befor it was started here in florida. That means the whole entire idea was already made and finished. All they are doing is makeing a repleca from the one in holywood. I would also point out that this ride is also being built in there over sea park. They are also recrating the mummy coaster at more than USF. This ride is also opening in there hollywood park I belive next year. All universal is doing is creating the same ride at every park they own. This is only killing there buissness because if all the parks have all the same rides it gives tourest no reason to go to all the diffierent parks. Disney on the other hand is taking a completely new Idea and making the movie from scratch and has to do what Disney does best, THEAM. That is what sets disney above the rest and that is what makes me return to disney again and again.
Pan
Member
I also believe Universal HAS to keep coming up with these rides quicker to keep up the public's interest in the place. If Disney didn't put a new attraction in for the next 3 years, we might all be disappointed, but that wouldn't stop anyone from going to WDW to experience the magic that only Disney can provide. Unfortunately, the executives at Disney know this, and it probably allows them to drag their heels on bringing out new attractions. I'm sure money has a lot to do with it.
AndyMagic
Well-Known Member
I don't know where to begin. Shrek starting construction a month earlier than the Orlando version has nothing to do with anything. Both are taking the same amount of time (6 months) and because all of the versions of Shrek are being built around the same time, having multiple versions doesn't speed up construction! Lastly, it is funny that you are claiming that building clones of attractions at their various parks will "kill" their business when Disney is the king of cloning their attractions. In fact, Disney is fond of cloning attractions that are already a decade old! (ToT at DCA) Opening clones of attractions in two parks that are located on opposite ends of the country doesn't hurt business at all.
AndyMagic
Well-Known Member
I agree and good point. It makes sense that Philarhmagic would take longer. I think what I am questioning is why it is taking SO much longer.Originally posted by CTXRover
I totally agree Philharmagic seems to be taking longer than needed, but not to be nitpicky
As I said before, from what I understand, Shrek is going into a theater already designed for a 3D show of its physical size (the theater is being renovated, obviously) while Philharmagic's theater needed to be completely REDESIGNED to accomodate its respective 3D show (i.e. the theater wasn't designed for a 3D show of its size.) If I'm correct, I think this would obviously make Philharmagic take longer. Probably another 1/2 year to tear out the old theater and build the new one (within the shell of a building) as compared to renovating an existing theater. (This is the last time I will say this. I promise. I'm beginning to sound like a broken record :lol:
As Steve said, it will really depend on how extensive each went with its renovations, but I think Philharmagic was more extensive and thus its longer time required to build.
gibsonc
UK Disney Geek
Essentially what i'm trying to say is that because there is a Hollywood version of Shrek which is a month - 2 months ahead then clearly the 3D film itself is going to be ahead / already available for Universal Florida when they have completed the construction required for the new attration. Additionally also they will be working with prior knowledge of setting up the attraction after doing it in Hollywood so the process should be quicker.
jmarc63
New Member
you have to understand a few things about design and construction, usually when a new attraction is announced the project is just in the concept phase, then they have to do all the enginerring , site surveys, techinal drawings for the frabrication plant as well as the onsite crews to set the footings and ancilarry structures that theme to the attraction. there is soil testing to see where they can and cannot put footings and how large the footings have to be ( when cedar point built there new dragster coaster top thrill dragster last year, due to the forces on the track because of the high speed and weight.each support footing for the track is 6X6X6 feet and the foundations for the tower are 70X70) and they have to do structural engineering so the coaster doesn't fall down or the trains have enough volosity to make each hill section( learned that from RTC), sometimes they have to make change on site if an unforseen problem occurs durring assembly of the track structure or ground conditions.
With all thoes factors to consider ,three to four years isn.t a long time. in fact cedar point started planning for top thrill since 2000 and opened it this month.
hope this helps
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Are you talking about the same Vivendi thats been discused on Bloomberg every week saying that their looking for a buyer for the parks? I suggest you aquaint yourself with the financial news and youl find that many companys involved in entertainment hotels and travel are feeling the pinch.
AndyMagic
Well-Known Member
Ok, I guess one more time wouldn't hurt. The Hollywood version was finished in 6 months and the Florida version will be finished in the same amount of time. I don't understand what you are trying to say? If you want to pretend that the Florida version is "learning" from the other version which only began construction a few weeks earlier, then that you can go ahead. If you are having trouble comparing Philarhmagic with the Florida version of Shrek, then simply do it with the Hollywood version because that one took 6 months too! It makes no difference. As for the film being done. The actual films should be done way before construction on a 3-D film even begins in the first place. I hope you understand now.