OK, why does it take so long for Disney to build new attractions, E.E. for example its due to open in 2006, so realisitcally it could be 2007, this is 3-4 years, Disney build their parks in this time scale.... why does it take so long?
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Katherine
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Think about how much extra stuff they put into it! Everyting has to be PREFECT when it comes to disney. everything must be themed, neat, and well done. This is why disney has made such a good name for itself. I'm sure other things like funding and stufff is part of it too though.
tenchu
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I do see your point though. I realise there is very little comparison, but if somewhere like Alton towers can build a new rollercoaster during their 'off' season, where they must contend with the british weather, you'd think disney, in the florida sunshine, could bring them out faster?
I do understand the lengths that Disney go to to produce its attractions, the fine detail and how picture perfect everything is, but they still do this with an entire park which takes 3-4 years to build, how is it cheaper to take longer to build an attraction?
Employ 4 staff over 4 years, or 8 over two years, it doesn't make much difference, also, the technology that is in the E.E. design may have been improved or an alternative found in 2006. Tenchu is right, OK, Disney and Alton Towers, are different, but its the closes thing that we have over here, they can build fantastic "themed" rides over here in the Winter, Disney take 4 years.
To me, Disney seem very slow.... and I wouldnt say it increases anticipation. The average guest wouldn't really care, nor read into it to much, and the fan..... well.... proberbly gets bored of it after discussing it inside out for 3 years, so when they experience, its kinda spoilt. I'm personally not reading into M:S too much, as I want a suprise.
Employ 4 staff over 4 years, or 8 over two years, it doesn't make much difference, also, the technology that is in the E.E. design may have been improved or an alternative found in 2006. Tenchu is right, OK, Disney and Alton Towers, are different, but its the closes thing that we have over here, they can build fantastic "themed" rides over here in the Winter, Disney take 4 years.
To me, Disney seem very slow.... and I wouldnt say it increases anticipation. The average guest wouldn't really care, nor read into it to much, and the fan..... well.... proberbly gets bored of it after discussing it inside out for 3 years, so when they experience, its kinda spoilt. I'm personally not reading into M:S too much, as I want a suprise.
Sorry, I know the above thread post sounds negative... but I'm just making my point and fustration clear.....
MouseMadness
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I can see what everybody means. On one hand, you'd think that by the time they announce to the pubic that a new ride is on the way, it'd be well under way,as far as planning, funding, etc. And, tenchu is right, the weather in Florida should be fairly permissive for them to work at a good pace. On the other hand, I also realize that when Disney does build a new attraction, particularly one on this scale, they are starting from absolute scratch. It' not like they're ordering prefabricated parts over the internet. I'm sure they have to plan for glitches and so on. Who knows, maybe they're saying 2006 just to be on the "safe side".... and avoid thousands of angry guests calling and sending nasty letters. :lol:
Thats quite funny! :lol:
Dayma
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You also need to consider things on the financial side. How much money does Disney keep liquid for project like this? How much money to they actaully get in loans? When is a good time to convert stock and or securities and mutual funds into cash for the project. It is not as simple as saying OK here is 400million for your new ride...... They could be looking to spread the costs out over the next 5 years or so especially with intrest rates the way they are.
ToTBellHop
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Everest will not open in 2007. Early 2006 is conservative; they would like to see this ride open in fall of 2005. The coaster itself will take no more than one year to construct, as is to be expected at any theme park w/ an advanced coaster like this (X took forever to build). It is the incredible theming that I know for a fact Alton Towers does not even get CLOSE to meeting that takes the extra time. Building a 200 foot mountain takes a while.
SpongeScott
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Stop and really look when you're at WDW next time and pay close attention to the detail of the queue and the ride. This is what sets Disney apart from other theme parks and this is what takes the time. Sure, they could build a coaster and throw up some bars and some ceiling fans and call it a ride, but Six Flags they ain't. I'd rather them keep the high standards that sets them apart than get cheap with the themeing.
You have to remember that when building a new park they would typically begin building the major attractions right at the start of park construction. The 2 - 3 year timescale for a major Eticket is disguised during the new park construction, as the 2 are done in parallel.
I wouldnt call any alton towers ride fantastic or themed!
They just consist of a prebuilt coaster, that they literally buy in from the manufacturer, attach a few buildings, bit of paint, and call it "themed". Its a totally different league in my opinion.
If you want Alton Towers type rides, visit 6flags in the USA, or stick with Alton Towers in the UK. If you want the premier league of themed experience, just hold out for the 2 years that Disney want to build these Erides.
MouseMadness
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YES! I live not too far from Cedar Point in Sandusky, Ohio (who, I believe, just opened the world's tallest, fastest, and steepest roller coaster, again) And while this is the place to go for thrills, Disney is where you go to "lose yourself." Cedar Point does just what Scott said... bars and ceiling fans for you to wait in and under. And you go because what the hell else are you going to do in the Michigan/Ohio area? :lol: I would hate to see the theming compromised for time purposes. I'll wait a couple years... besides, I still have to ride Pirates of the Caribbean. So I'm in no hurry; I have much catching up to do!
Dayma
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hmmmm...watch Lebron James play for the Cavaliers? he he JK
I totally agree. Coaster Technology is not anything new and can quickly be made. Hence why Cedar Point opens up so many coasters so quick......Disney is at a different standard for ALL parts of the ride. Go walk around Cedar Point and you will see that the place is down right dirty and ugly when compared to Disney. It is not the same standard as Disney nor are most most parks.
MouseMadness
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Originally posted by blackride
hmmmm...watch Lebron James play for the Cavaliers? he he JK
Go walk around Cedar Point and you will see that the place is down right dirty and ugly when compared to Disney. It is not the same standard as Disney nor are most most parks.
Luckily, I am not a basketball fan... get back to me when it's college football season. We'll talk.
Yes, I really don't like being at Cedar Point. It is dirty, and the people who work there are rude. It really is just a way to spend a day. (and, drifting here.. have you been on the new ride? I can't wait to try it!!)
PhotoDave219
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Continuing on the thread drift, why does it take the same 3 years to build an entire Park (DAK) to add two lanes to five miles of a road? Now thats unexcuable.
CAPTAIN HOOK
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Exactly - You CANNOT compare Alton Towers (lack of theming) with WDW