Why doesn't the Cheshire Cat have a meet and greet at WDW?

lunchbox1175

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Out of curiosity, does anyone think if they had all characters available more regularly that they might be able to drive and raise more interest in them and possibly find new ways for marketing and making more money off of them?
 

asianway

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Out of curiosity, does anyone think if they had all characters available more regularly that they might be able to drive and raise more interest in them and possibly find new ways for marketing and making more money off of them?
Perhaps. But execs looking at the company holistically stopped a long time ago. And the studios has only been subsidizing character creation in the US in recent years
 

asianway

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Yup. WAY more important, as a matter of fact. Though, lest I let you get away with gross hyperbole, there's exactly ONE place to meet Anna and Elsa. Not a billion. Not three. Not two. One. But nice try.

Let's say you're going to open an ice cream stand, eh? Your freezer has room for three tubs of ice cream. Are you going to stock chocolate, vanilla, and strawberry? Or butter pecan, pistachio, and orange sherbet? Probably the first bunch, eh? The ones people care about and pay money to enjoy.

True story: I was at the Magic Kingdom yesterday and Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb went skipping by on their way back stage. A grand total of zero guests tried to stop them for a picture and I heard more than one ask "who is that?" Converseley, when Tigger walks by it's a mob scene. So why no cheshire? Because nobody cares except the Disney crazies. Rare characters are a bonanza for lunatic off duty cast members and lifestylers, but do very little for the satisfaction of regular guests.
4 Anna & Elsas at WDW they are two rooms back to back. 8 if you want to count both shifts. A better example are the dozens and dozens of mickeys. But I do agree, people prefer vanilla
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
4 Anna & Elsas at WDW they are two rooms back to back. 8 if you want to count both shifts. A better example are the dozens and dozens of mickeys. But I do agree, people prefer vanilla
Yeah I meant one location, not one performer. Like you can't meet Elsa in Fantasyland AND Norway AND Discovery Island AND Hollywood Boulevard.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
Out of curiosity, does anyone think if they had all characters available more regularly that they might be able to drive and raise more interest in them and possibly find new ways for marketing and making more money off of them?
I don't think so. People want to meet characters they already like, not the other way around. I can't imagine anyone waiting in line for a character they've never heard of and then being so inspired that it becomes their new favorite such that they want a plush and a t-shirt.
 

asianway

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Yeah I meant one location, not one performer. Like you can't meet Elsa in Fantasyland AND Norway AND Discovery Island AND Hollywood Boulevard.
Not yet...

It is important to consider this in terms of shifts worked though because that's what consumes the budget. Every time a sidekick or oddball character was cut in recent years it was to shift those labor dollars to a high capacity greet area. When you consider the labor at town square theatre for Mickey including the magic words staff, it's no wonder there are not a lot of one offs
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
Not yet...

It is important to consider this in terms of shifts worked though because that's what consumes the budget. Every time a sidekick or oddball character was cut in recent years it was to shift those labor dollars to a high capacity greet area. When you consider the labor at town square theatre for Mickey including the magic words staff, it's no wonder there are not a lot of one offs
Fair. But on the flip side, it's really an exact proxy for guest demand. If Anna and Elsa had a 5 minute wait, they wouldn't need all that capacity.
 

cookiee_munster

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not so much of a meet and greet, but i'd love for some kind of interactive element placed within fantasyland.

I really liked the Movie version using Stephen fry's voiceover. id love for some kind of element hidden away somewhere where you could talk with him somehow.
 

Cmdr_Crimson

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Out of curiosity, does anyone think if they had all characters available more regularly that they might be able to drive and raise more interest in them and possibly find new ways for marketing and making more money off of them?

Problem is since they don't have space since Mad Tea Party is the only attraction based on the film in FL...It would bottleneck that area if all the characters were there..
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Also found out that there is actually a King of Hearts but is used in TDL Happiness is Here parade..
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Piebald

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There are a LOT of new characters created recently that , along with Cheshire, will probably never be seen stateside. Lampwick, Sultan, March Hare, a bunch of Aristocats, etc.

You can always be rich and just travel around all the Disney parks to specifically meet random characters like some oddballs do.

Sorry poor people!
 

Cmdr_Crimson

Well-Known Member
There are a LOT of new characters created recently that , along with Cheshire, will probably never be seen stateside. Lampwick, Sultan, March Hare, a bunch of Aristocats, etc.

You can always be rich and just travel around all the Disney parks to specifically meet random characters like some oddballs do.

Sorry poor people!

Just type "Disney Dreamers Everywhere" and you can see what characters you'll never get to see..
 

Sped2424

Well-Known Member
Yup. WAY more important, as a matter of fact. Though, lest I let you get away with gross hyperbole, there's exactly ONE place to meet Anna and Elsa. Not a billion. Not three. Not two. One. But nice try.

Let's say you're going to open an ice cream stand, eh? Your freezer has room for three tubs of ice cream. Are you going to stock chocolate, vanilla, and strawberry? Or butter pecan, pistachio, and orange sherbet? Probably the first bunch, eh? The ones people care about and pay money to enjoy.

True story: I was at the Magic Kingdom yesterday and Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb went skipping by on their way back stage. A grand total of zero guests tried to stop them for a picture and I heard more than one ask "who is that?" Converseley, when Tigger walks by it's a mob scene. So why no cheshire? Because nobody cares except the Disney crazies. Rare characters are a bonanza for lunatic off duty cast members and lifestylers, but do very little for the satisfaction of regular guests.
I agree with anna and elsa. But as for the ice cream analogy, when your a billion dollar company with very vast resources I expect you to have more flavors than the classics everyone loves. They can afford to stock em, but they choose not too.
 

HouCuseChickie

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The thing is...there's enough Cheshire Cat merch out there to suggest they know he's fairly popular. I mean, he's more popular from what I've seen than the White Rabbit, yet we see him in MK from time to time. I think Chesire would be wildly popular if he was put into rotation. I certainly would go out of my way to see him and I know many others who would. It's a really good costume and I could see how it could be a very fun M&G.
 

asianway

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To be fair, the Tweedles are increasingly out and I'd think the Cheshire Cat is more popular than them.
They have many tweedles costumes from years past that are paid for that draw a line.

Even Tokyo the most likely buyers didn't purchase Cheshire. WDW is more likely to cut White Rabbit than pay for several new Cheshires. Sad but true
 

Thumper 32

Well-Known Member
There are a LOT of new characters created recently that , along with Cheshire, will probably never be seen stateside. Lampwick, Sultan, March Hare, a bunch of Aristocats, etc.

You can always be rich and just travel around all the Disney parks to specifically meet random characters like some oddballs do.

Sorry poor people!

Actually Lampwick existed long before, as he used to be in the MSEP, at least up until it closed at Disneyland in the 90s. On the float next to Pinocchio, where now the current version at MK just has a random donkey boy.

A version of March Hare also existed quite a while back, maybe in the 80s in some Disneyland parades.

But yes, the number created for that crazy group is pretty absurd.
 

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