Why does Disney charge so much?

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
and there are people that have a lot of money. some people go on vacation and aren't interested in getting the cheapest price. the know what they like and are willing to pay whatever price is being asked.
My family and I rented a house one year, yes it was cheaper but we don't rate our vacations on the cheapest options, saving a buck and then spending the entire time wishing you were some where else is a waste of money.

so the second answer imo is the best. disney charges that rate because there are folks who are willing to pay it for whatever reason AND more importantly, they are happy.

now of course there are better places off site for better prices.

Ahhh...that’s what I was saying on another thread yesterday...there’s a weird fetish for repeat Disney customers being overcharged. They think it’s a badge of honor. Pay more for the same or often less.

It’s upside down, but easy to spot psychology.

I fully get traveling and “not looking for the cheapest price”. I think the concept of “cheap travel” is archaic in the digital world...

But people with money generally still don’t want to be overcharged for the product. And I have some good anecdotes about that from famous names at a place that rhymed with “stand morbidian”...And that was long ago. Can’t imagine what they hear now?
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
and there are people that have a lot of money. some people go on vacation and aren't interested in getting the cheapest price. the know what they like and are willing to pay whatever price is being asked.
My family and I rented a house one year, yes it was cheaper but we don't rate our vacations on the cheapest options, saving a buck and then spending the entire time wishing you were some where else is a waste of money.

so the second answer imo is the best. disney charges that rate because there are folks who are willing to pay it for whatever reason AND more importantly, they are happy.

now of course there are better places off site for better prices.

Yeah but its more than that.

Some pay it because they know no better...
Some pay it because they actually think the value is there...
Some pay it because prices don’t concern them...

Many can pay it, but won’t because they don’t like feeling like they are being taken advantage of

Its not just about “cheapest prices”. Many prefer to value their dollar and spend where feel good about what it cost them.
 

eliza61nyc

Well-Known Member
Yeah but its more than that.

Some pay it because they know no better...
Some pay it because they actually think the value is there...
Some pay it because prices don’t concern them...

Many can pay it, but won’t because they don’t like feeling like they are being taken advantage of

Its not just about “cheapest prices”. Many prefer to value their dollar and spend where feel good about what it cost them.
Lol I think that's what I was trying to convey, as we always say "value" is so very subjective.
I totally agree, about the taking advantage thing, I'm arguing with my HOA because we are paying for a snow removal service that is crappy! Lol 4 days to remove 6 lousy inches of snow, from a drive way??

That's why I think telling someone to "stop going" is a great response, where folks here get insulted when you say that but it's that simple, why continue going some place you feel is ripping you off?

Now I've done both onsite and off, I won't go if off-site is the only option but that was the major reason we purchased our dvc membership, now that feeling may change again after our next trip in September 😜. People are posting how horrible it is now but if we do decide that I'm still not going off site.
My value in WDW comes from many many things collectively.

The only issue I don't totally agree with is the cheapest option. I think many here do use that as a litmus test. That's why you'll consistently hear the reference to motels.
 
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flynnibus

Premium Member
Lol I think that's what I was trying to convey, as we always say "value" is so very subjective.

Well, you kinda gave two extremes... 'dont care' and 'seeking the cheapest'. I was trying to elaborate there are multiple shades inbetween that :)

For instance... I am a frugal @%$ - but I will pay a premium for premium experience. I will fight over $10... but I will also throw $1k extra at something if it will give me piece of mind where i see value.

That's why I think telling someone to "stop going" is a great response, where folks here get insulted when you say that but it's that simple, why continue going some place you feel is ripping you off?

Sure... but this is also a community/discussion... so it is a place for people to voice their dislike of changes besides just make their personal changes.

But yes at the end of the day... the best way to make change happen is to change yourself :)
 

Dad 2 M & M

Well-Known Member
Very, very true.

In the end, I cancelled the Cabana Bay resort as well... And switched to a 3 bedroom 2 bathroom house with a full kitchen, private pool/hot tub, washer/dryer on Airbnb for $400 for the total stay.

Airbnb-

*3 Bedrooms
*2 Bathrooms
*Free Parking
*Gated
*Online Check in
*Washer/Dryer
*Kitchen
*Living Room
*Balcony
*Movie Theater
*Private Pool/Hot Tub
*Tennis Court
*Basketball Court
*Arcade
*Game Room (Pool/Fuzzball/Table Tennis)
*Onsite Convenience Store
*Cafe/Restaurant/Bar
*2 Miles from Disney's Gates

At this point... If anybody out there is smart and staying onsite isn't a line, they'd just book an entire freakin house on Airbnb.
Wow, we've come almost full circle......can't keep up with the pivots.....

Is your next thread "Why are Uni-Cabana Bay PrIces So High"?
Disney prices are protected because the name “disney” is above it. They haven’t really cared about maintaining the brand quality in areas such as this for quite some time.
Any chance peeps might be willing to pay sub $125 for Pop nowadays? Disney surely has considered it, but would that eliminate Price-Psycho peeps from coming back at non-discounted? Some would fall in love, and others would EXPECT the price moving forward....

We stayed at one of the major brand places on Palm Parkway earlier this year, the place was very nice, for less than $70 per night total. Included breakfast (most here would say "free", right), no resort fee, etc. We'd never return if the price went to the mid $80ies.......
 

WondersOfLife

Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
Original Poster
Wow, we've come almost full circle......can't keep up with the pivots.....

Is your next thread "Why are Uni-Cabana Bay PrIces So High"?
You sound more offended than you are informative.

I still stand by my original post I’m saying Cabana Bay is a bigger bang for your buck. Especially if you want a themed hotel.

Ending up at Airbnb ended up being a process of elimination. And if thematic elements don’t effect you, then yea, I dont understand why someone wouldn’t choose Airbnb over an overpriced hotel.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
You sound more offended than you are informative.

I still stand by my original post I’m saying Cabana Bay is a bigger bang for your buck. Especially if you want a themed hotel.

Ending up at Airbnb ended up being a process of elimination. And if thematic elements don’t effect you, then yea, I dont understand why someone wouldn’t choose Airbnb over an overpriced hotel.
I think you took that the wrong way...I don’t think he was taking that approach
 

Dad 2 M & M

Well-Known Member
You sound more offended than you are informative.

I still stand by my original post I’m saying Cabana Bay is a bigger bang for your buck. Especially if you want a themed hotel.

Ending up at Airbnb ended up being a process of elimination. And if thematic elements don’t effect you, then yea, I dont understand why someone wouldn’t choose Airbnb over an overpriced hotel.
Not offended....
just pointing out you went full circle.....Cabana Bay bigger bang for your buck, followed by Airbnb for the same reason.

Further, Cabana Bay is now an over-priced hotel, as opposed to a previous relative value
 

MickeyLuv'r

Well-Known Member
Okay, I'll bite...
I have stayed on and offsite many times at WDW, Uni and offsite. I agree WDW prices are a bit crazy, and as someone else said, 3-beds doesn't fit the WDW room plan.

One reason to stay different places is variety.

I really like the Uni hotels. I've never stayed at C Bay. but have enjoyed Porto, HRH, Aventura, and Sapphire Falls. At WDW, I have stayed at just about al of them, except the purely DVC hotels. I've also stayed at the Swan/ Dolphin, and many offsite places a number of times.

In the before times, a practical consideration/benefit of any hotel was the amount of time it took to get from our room to the park, especially in the morning when every minute counted. When I say this, I mean the total time, not just the drive time. One of the downsides of the WDW moderate hotels is the amount of time it takes to walk from your room to the food court. Sometimes the offsite options are actually great. I also often took advantage of all the peripheral park hours - am and PM- so being able to walk to my hotel room at the end of the night was also a plus at both WDW and Universal.

A second factor for me is how fun each hotel is, namely the pool. At home, I have seasonal access to basic pool for a nominal fee, so a fun pool is a feature that often matters to me when I'm vacationing. It isn't important for short and winter visits. Overall, I like the pools at the Universal hotels, but they don't have water slides. A plus of the HRH was the live poolside musicians. A downside of HRH and some if the WDW/offsite hotels is the noxious fragrance they spray everywhere. The WDW value hotel pools are also just so-so: no water slide or hot tub. The WDW moderate hotels have great pools. Some offsite pools are great, others are beyond dull.

In the before times...another consideration is the hotel breakfast options. Mostly, how quick are they? Mostly, aside from Mickey waffles, and decent coffee, breakfast food is fairly standard. As long as a place offers quick access to the basics, including some fruit, I'm not very picky. What I don't want to do though is wait in a 20minute line, or spend 10 minutes hunting for a table. Also, I'm not picky about décor, but CLEAN is important.

I also really like a few other basic amenities: a nightlight, a vanity/shave mirror, light, plenty of electric outlets, and plenty of counter/desk space. Oh, and I'm not too picky, but I need to be able to shower. (adequate water flow, no sudden temp changes, towels, and a shelf for my shampoo/soap. )

I think one reasons people stay onsite is more just habit than anything else. At one point, WDW offered deals and pricing that made staying onsite worthwhile, and some folks just like to return to something familiar. They look forward to seeing giraffes, talking to their favorite staff members, and eating at the Pop food court, so they return to the same place.

Lots of folks think it is crazy to return to WDW year after year.
 

WondersOfLife

Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
Original Poster
Not offended....
just pointing out you went full circle.....Cabana Bay bigger bang for your buck, followed by Airbnb for the same reason.

Further, Cabana Bay is now an over-priced hotel, as opposed to a previous relative value
It's not a full circle though. If anything, it's just a straight line. Airbnb > Cabana Bay > Disney Value Resorts.

At no point did I go back to "Disney Value Resorts are worth the price." That would be a full circle.
 

Dad 2 M & M

Well-Known Member
It's not a full circle though. If anything, it's just a straight line. Airbnb > Cabana Bay > Disney Value Resorts.

At no point did I go back to "Disney Value Resorts are worth the price." That would be a full circle.
I hear ya....

My thought was a starting point at over-priced , a price driven move to Cabana Bay, then determining Cabana Bay was over-priced. I didn't see that as linear......almost full circle

Anywho, enjoy your time down there as it is a blast
 

Dad 2 M & M

Well-Known Member
Okay, I'll bite...
I have stayed on and offsite many times at WDW, Uni and offsite. I agree WDW prices are a bit crazy, and as someone else said, 3-beds doesn't fit the WDW room plan.

One reason to stay different places is variety.

I really like the Uni hotels. I've never stayed at C Bay. but have enjoyed Porto, HRH, Aventura, and Sapphire Falls. At WDW, I have stayed at just about al of them, except the purely DVC hotels. I've also stayed at the Swan/ Dolphin, and many offsite places a number of times.

In the before times, a practical consideration/benefit of any hotel was the amount of time it took to get from our room to the park, especially in the morning when every minute counted. When I say this, I mean the total time, not just the drive time. One of the downsides of the WDW moderate hotels is the amount of time it takes to walk from your room to the food court. Sometimes the offsite options are actually great. I also often took advantage of all the peripheral park hours - am and PM- so being able to walk to my hotel room at the end of the night was also a plus at both WDW and Universal.

A second factor for me is how fun each hotel is, namely the pool. At home, I have seasonal access to basic pool for a nominal fee, so a fun pool is a feature that often matters to me when I'm vacationing. It isn't important for short and winter visits. Overall, I like the pools at the Universal hotels, but they don't have water slides. A plus of the HRH was the live poolside musicians. A downside of HRH and some if the WDW/offsite hotels is the noxious fragrance they spray everywhere. The WDW value hotel pools are also just so-so: no water slide or hot tub. The WDW moderate hotels have great pools. Some offsite pools are great, others are beyond dull.

In the before times...another consideration is the hotel breakfast options. Mostly, how quick are they? Mostly, aside from Mickey waffles, and decent coffee, breakfast food is fairly standard. As long as a place offers quick access to the basics, including some fruit, I'm not very picky. What I don't want to do though is wait in a 20minute line, or spend 10 minutes hunting for a table. Also, I'm not picky about décor, but CLEAN is important.

I also really like a few other basic amenities: a nightlight, a vanity/shave mirror, light, plenty of electric outlets, and plenty of counter/desk space. Oh, and I'm not too picky, but I need to be able to shower. (adequate water flow, no sudden temp changes, towels, and a shelf for my shampoo/soap. )

I think one reasons people stay onsite is more just habit than anything else. At one point, WDW offered deals and pricing that made staying onsite worthwhile, and some folks just like to return to something familiar. They look forward to seeing giraffes, talking to their favorite staff members, and eating at the Pop food court, so they return to the same place.

Lots of folks think it is crazy to return to WDW year after year.
Well done!
 

koalacat

New Member
1). I’m 22 right now. I was 12 in 2010. I’ve only been doing solo trips for about 4 years. And even then, I did Airbnb’s because broke college kid. Graduated now, I’m finally seeking out the hotel threads.

2). Yes you’re correct. I meant to say we were looking to upgrade to art of animation for a suite because it’s the cheapest suite option onsite. I’ll fix that in the original post.

3). Hell no it was definitely over 2K for May 31st - June 5th, 2021.

4). The point of this post: Universal has much better quality resorts at a much cheaper price than even Disney’s lowest of lows, value
Having stayed at a Universal resort, I really don't agree. I stayed at the Royal Pacific and it wasn't awesome. I found it to be kinda dingy and the room was just ok. (on the whole I found Universal to be kinda grungy) On the same trip we also went to WDW and stayed in the Bay Lake Tower with an MK view, the room was much nicer and extremely clean. I guess the best Universal resort might compare with a moderate WDW resort? I still think the cabins at fort wilderness are awesome, if you can get a bunch of people it's not very expensive and so relaxing.
 

WondersOfLife

Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
Original Poster
Having stayed at a Universal resort, I really don't agree. I stayed at the Royal Pacific and it wasn't awesome. I found it to be kinda dingy and the room was just ok. (on the whole I found Universal to be kinda grungy) On the same trip we also went to WDW and stayed in the Bay Lake Tower with an MK view, the room was much nicer and extremely clean. I guess the best Universal resort might compare with a moderate WDW resort? I still think the cabins at fort wilderness are awesome, if you can get a bunch of people it's not very expensive and so relaxing.
I should have specified from the beginning, I’m mostly referring to value resorts.

(I cant afford anything higher 😂)
 

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
Having stayed at a Universal resort, I really don't agree. I stayed at the Royal Pacific and it wasn't awesome. I found it to be kinda dingy and the room was just ok. (on the whole I found Universal to be kinda grungy) On the same trip we also went to WDW and stayed in the Bay Lake Tower with an MK view, the room was much nicer and extremely clean. I guess the best Universal resort might compare with a moderate WDW resort? I still think the cabins at fort wilderness are awesome, if you can get a bunch of people it's not very expensive and so relaxing.

I had the complete opposite experience. I stayed at the Royal Pacific a couple of years ago and it was nicer (in a certain sense) and cleaner than any of the Disney deluxe resorts. I still prefer some of the Disney deluxes for other reasons, but the rooms and beds at Royal Pacific were much better than at Disney.

Basically, I felt like the Royal Pacific was more or less worth the price they were charging for it -- I've stayed in similarly priced hotels in other places and they were pretty comparable overall in cleaniness, comfort, and so on. The Disney deluxes really aren't worth their price beyond the fact you're in the WDW bubble and the elaborate theming and location (which only exists at some of them).
 

wbostic12

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
Disney seems to be taking their late-Eisner-era approach to things right now, assuming that everyone will be satisfied because they are Disney. Sooner rather than later, they are going to hit the price point where people are going to have to say no, and that is going to be a rude awakening for the current executive group.
 

hsisthebest

Well-Known Member
There are many reasons to the high prices at Disney Hotels/Villas. But you don't have to pay them. I used to stay onsite for every trip we made in the earl 2000's. Now I am much wealthier and in my 40's, but I have no desire to pay so much for so little value. We had a fantastic time in 2018 staying at Caribe Royale (5 min. drive to Magic and Epcot) . Next time I think we'll stay at WBC- it looks to be as every bit as good as a villa but for less than 1/2 the price. (we are a family of 6, so a 2 bedroom suite is needed). I was surprised at how little I missed being in the "Disney bubble."
 

"El Gran Magnifico"

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My new hobby is analyzing new WDWMagic members and their posting patterns in the first few days after they join. This thread has provided many case studies for my research.

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BASS

Well-Known Member
I've traveled a fair amount. I think some of the Disney hotels are fairly priced, considering what you get. Others--not so. I've been to nearly every Disney resort and I select resorts based on the price at the time and whether it's in line with what you'd reasonably expect for that price point.
 

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