Why dislike for Iger?

[larryz]

He’s a member of the rebel alliance and a traitor! Take him away!

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Are you referring bad movie ideas?...or the execs that green light them?

 

[Makamah]

Everything with Iger is IP. If they can not market merchandise then it doesn't get built or green lit. Gone are the days of true imagineering. It is sad to think there will never be another attraction that is not based on some IP. No Pirates, No Everest, No Haunted Mansion, etc. If you look at some of the best rides ever created they are all non-IP based. Worst part is he doesn't seem to have a sense of Disney history and what it was founded on. His comment in Barron's when comparing Star Wars to some "non-descript coaster in India" when referencing Expedition Everest just goes to show.

Also while I fully understand Disney is a corporation and in it to make money, it just seems under Iger that greed wins out. Any penny they can pinch from the customer they do. Prices increase at a historical rate. Everything is now an add-on. I remember the days when doing a dessert party or hard ticketed event was the norm on a trip. While they were add-ons they were reasonably priced. Now they are out of hand.

Everyone gives Eisner a bad rap. While things did definitely fall apart towards the end, he had the biggest positive impact on Disney since Walt. Walt Disney World is what it is today because of him. The hotels, parks, new ride additions (Splash Mountain, Everest, etc) are all his doing.

With Iger it seems it is easier just to buy some one else's idea. Why come up with your own stories when I can buy Pixar, buy Lucas Films, buy Fox, etc.

 

[2Shoes]

Wow, where do I begin...?

I despise him because he's not just the flip side of Walt, he's in a despicable class of his own.

For instance, according to reliable insiders here, he tried to sell the Disney parks to a foreign country. Walt would deck him for that alone. The parks were Walt's pride and joy. To Iger they're a nuisance he'd rather not deal with.

His disdain for the parks is further illustrated by the fact that he's let a broken AA - the yeti figure in Expedition Everest - stay broken for literally years because he figures that park guests are too stupid to notice and dealing with it would cost money. Instead of fixing it, he put a strobe light on it. Because that's how contemptuous he is regarding quality and park guests, whom he sees as stooges and hicks who must be squeezed for every dime they have, usually via ridiculous "upcharge" events that involve such "pluses" as commemorative cupcakes.

Speaking of foreign influence, the brilliance and magic of overseas parks such as Tokyo Disneyland and Disneysea prove what a Disney park can really be like when its designers and builders are willing to spend the money. Whereas in the States, budget cuts are applied to just about every new attraction, and new builds are frequently subpar in quality - look at the mess the new Toy Story Land is in Florida, with peeling paint all over the place. Iger won't spend the money to enhance the parks the way they should be, because he'd rather spend the money buying up every studio in Hollywood that has some sort of decent profitability, because risk and innovation are words Iger hates. It's all about the stockholders - people Walt had little interest in if they threatened to curtail his creativity. Iger, in contrast, has no idea what creativity is, except that it costs a lot and therefore he despises it. And he's stupid too. He built a whole land in Florida's AK revolving around the snoozefest Avatar films because that was his solution to the Potter lands in Universal. He has no taste or appreciation for the Disney legacy. He cares about the Disney "brand" (a description that Roy Disney Jr. despised - "Disney is not a brand!") in that it can be leveraged for profit across "platforms". A man that crass should be head of Wal-mart, not the (Walt) Disney Company.

PLUS he was going to destroy the flawless Twilight Zone Tower of Terror in WDW to stick idiot Marvel characters in it. That destruction was necessary because he bought Marvel and by God the characters were going to be injected like a virus into the parks come hell or high water. Thank god public outcry saved the Tower in Florida. Too bad about the loud hideous eyesore in Anaheim, which is a brazen and all-too-accurate visual testament to Iger's lack of taste and class. A fitting monument to a man who turned the caricature of the Disney company being an evil greedy corporate empire into a reality. Nice work, Bob!

I can't wait for that soulless cement-head to be shown the door. The only downside of that is that the toadies that will remain will likely pick someone worse. I think the Walt part of the Disney company is truly dead now. And I weep because everything Walt worked for has been discarded in favor of quick and easy profit. Iger sold the company's soul to enrich himself. And he's destroying the company's legacy not only of quality, but of values, demonstrated by his rehire of a man posing as a pedophile on Twitter (funny how Iger was disparaging Twitter the other day - how awful that those pesky Tweets from James Gunn came to light, eh?) despite what that did to Disney's legacy of family values and entertainment. He is a lowlife scumbag. I wish that every fate that happened to Disney villains would befall him. Because to me, he's a Disney villain in real life. And that's my take.

So well said , I certainly have nothing to add. Totally agreed and saddened.

 

[Zebsterama]

I don't post often - but this caught my attention.

I don't know the man or follow his work, but the sense I get is that he lacks empathy to true/blue Disney fans & ideals - based on the comments I'm seeing.

I think, especially with a brand like Disney, having someone less bottom line oriented (i.e. investor return focused) and more balanced to the ideals of making Walt Disney World parks places (an experience) where middle class America (I'm Canadian - but I think you get the gist) can make great memories without getting gouged financially ever step of the way - would be fantastic. I think some of that has gone out the window.

The WDW park(s) that I've gone to (since 1974) and still love, have not always been true and kind to Walt Disney's ideals.
Perhaps I'm misguided, perhaps unrealistic ... maybe even a socialist (I am Canadian after all - hahaha!) ... but that's my perception.

That being said - our family and extended family (of 9) will be at WDW, at a Deluxe Resort (GF), enjoying Deluxe Dining and enjoying a DCL excursion this summer -- I guess I'm just a sucker . LOL!!!

 

[juniorthomas]

The summary of this thread: people miss Walt Disney.

 

[Indy_UK]

Igor is the CEO needed when he joined. 99.9% of people are die hard park fans so are not going to like him because yeah, he did let the parks stagnate but he taken the company to a point where they are th biggest powerhouse going.

I think he's a brilliant businessman and amazing for the company

 

[Texas59]

Wow, where do I begin...?

I despise him because he's not just the flip side of Walt, he's in a despicable class of his own.

For instance, according to reliable insiders here, he tried to sell the Disney parks to a foreign country. Walt would deck him for that alone. The parks were Walt's pride and joy. To Iger they're a nuisance he'd rather not deal with.

His disdain for the parks is further illustrated by the fact that he's let a broken AA - the yeti figure in Expedition Everest - stay broken for literally years because he figures that park guests are too stupid to notice and dealing with it would cost money. Instead of fixing it, he put a strobe light on it. Because that's how contemptuous he is regarding quality and park guests, whom he sees as stooges and hicks who must be squeezed for every dime they have, usually via ridiculous "upcharge" events that involve such "pluses" as commemorative cupcakes.

Speaking of foreign influence, the brilliance and magic of overseas parks such as Tokyo Disneyland and Disneysea prove what a Disney park can really be like when its designers and builders are willing to spend the money. Whereas in the States, budget cuts are applied to just about every new attraction, and new builds are frequently subpar in quality - look at the mess the new Toy Story Land is in Florida, with peeling paint all over the place. Iger won't spend the money to enhance the parks the way they should be, because he'd rather spend the money buying up every studio in Hollywood that has some sort of decent profitability, because risk and innovation are words Iger hates. It's all about the stockholders - people Walt had little interest in if they threatened to curtail his creativity. Iger, in contrast, has no idea what creativity is, except that it costs a lot and therefore he despises it. And he's stupid too. He built a whole land in Florida's AK revolving around the snoozefest Avatar films because that was his solution to the Potter lands in Universal. He has no taste or appreciation for the Disney legacy. He cares about the Disney "brand" (a description that Roy Disney Jr. despised - "Disney is not a brand!") in that it can be leveraged for profit across "platforms". A man that crass should be head of Wal-mart, not the (Walt) Disney Company.

PLUS he was going to destroy the flawless Twilight Zone Tower of Terror in WDW to stick idiot Marvel characters in it. That destruction was necessary because he bought Marvel and by God the characters were going to be injected like a virus into the parks come hell or high water. Thank god public outcry saved the Tower in Florida. Too bad about the loud hideous eyesore in Anaheim, which is a brazen and all-too-accurate visual testament to Iger's lack of taste and class. A fitting monument to a man who turned the caricature of the Disney company being an evil greedy corporate empire into a reality. Nice work, Bob!

I can't wait for that soulless cement-head to be shown the door. The only downside of that is that the toadies that will remain will likely pick someone worse. I think the Walt part of the Disney company is truly dead now. And I weep because everything Walt worked for has been discarded in favor of quick and easy profit. Iger sold the company's soul to enrich himself. And he's destroying the company's legacy not only of quality, but of values, demonstrated by his rehire of a man posing as a pedophile on Twitter (funny how Iger was disparaging Twitter the other day - how awful that those pesky Tweets from James Gunn came to light, eh?) despite what that did to Disney's legacy of family values and entertainment. He is a lowlife scumbag. I wish that every fate that happened to Disney villains would befall him. Because to me, he's a Disney villain in real life. And that's my take.

Well said! It hits Iger to a tee!

 

[TheDisneyMom]

Wow, where do I begin...?

I despise him because he's not just the flip side of Walt, he's in a despicable class of his own.

For instance, according to reliable insiders here, he tried to sell the Disney parks to a foreign country. Walt would deck him for that alone. The parks were Walt's pride and joy. To Iger they're a nuisance he'd rather not deal with.

His disdain for the parks is further illustrated by the fact that he's let a broken AA - the yeti figure in Expedition Everest - stay broken for literally years because he figures that park guests are too stupid to notice and dealing with it would cost money. Instead of fixing it, he put a strobe light on it. Because that's how contemptuous he is regarding quality and park guests, whom he sees as stooges and hicks who must be squeezed for every dime they have, usually via ridiculous "upcharge" events that involve such "pluses" as commemorative cupcakes.

Speaking of foreign influence, the brilliance and magic of overseas parks such as Tokyo Disneyland and Disneysea prove what a Disney park can really be like when its designers and builders are willing to spend the money. Whereas in the States, budget cuts are applied to just about every new attraction, and new builds are frequently subpar in quality - look at the mess the new Toy Story Land is in Florida, with peeling paint all over the place. Iger won't spend the money to enhance the parks the way they should be, because he'd rather spend the money buying up every studio in Hollywood that has some sort of decent profitability, because risk and innovation are words Iger hates. It's all about the stockholders - people Walt had little interest in if they threatened to curtail his creativity. Iger, in contrast, has no idea what creativity is, except that it costs a lot and therefore he despises it. And he's stupid too. He built a whole land in Florida's AK revolving around the snoozefest Avatar films because that was his solution to the Potter lands in Universal. He has no taste or appreciation for the Disney legacy. He cares about the Disney "brand" (a description that Roy Disney Jr. despised - "Disney is not a brand!") in that it can be leveraged for profit across "platforms". A man that crass should be head of Wal-mart, not the (Walt) Disney Company.

PLUS he was going to destroy the flawless Twilight Zone Tower of Terror in WDW to stick idiot Marvel characters in it. That destruction was necessary because he bought Marvel and by God the characters were going to be injected like a virus into the parks come hell or high water. Thank god public outcry saved the Tower in Florida. Too bad about the loud hideous eyesore in Anaheim, which is a brazen and all-too-accurate visual testament to Iger's lack of taste and class. A fitting monument to a man who turned the caricature of the Disney company being an evil greedy corporate empire into a reality. Nice work, Bob!

I can't wait for that soulless cement-head to be shown the door. The only downside of that is that the toadies that will remain will likely pick someone worse. I think the Walt part of the Disney company is truly dead now. And I weep because everything Walt worked for has been discarded in favor of quick and easy profit. Iger sold the company's soul to enrich himself. And he's destroying the company's legacy not only of quality, but of values, demonstrated by his rehire of a man posing as a pedophile on Twitter (funny how Iger was disparaging Twitter the other day - how awful that those pesky Tweets from James Gunn came to light, eh?) despite what that did to Disney's legacy of family values and entertainment. He is a lowlife scumbag. I wish that every fate that happened to Disney villains would befall him. Because to me, he's a Disney villain in real life. And that's my take.

Well stated! The parks have suffered tremendously! Never thought I’d say it, but I’d take Eisner back, in a heartbeat. If nothing else, he understood the parks!

 

[larryz]

Are you referring bad movie ideas?...or the execs that green light them?

Darth Iger is clearly Darth Sidious' new apprentice.

 

[Indy_UK]

Well stated! The parks have suffered tremendously! Never thought I’d say it, but I’d take Eisner back, in a heartbeat. If nothing else, he understood the parks!

He did get the parks, but not much else

 

[2Shoes]

Wow, where do I begin...?

I despise him because he's not just the flip side of Walt, he's in a despicable class of his own.

For instance, according to reliable insiders here, he tried to sell the Disney parks to a foreign country. Walt would deck him for that alone. The parks were Walt's pride and joy. To Iger they're a nuisance he'd rather not deal with.

His disdain for the parks is further illustrated by the fact that he's let a broken AA - the yeti figure in Expedition Everest - stay broken for literally years because he figures that park guests are too stupid to notice and dealing with it would cost money. Instead of fixing it, he put a strobe light on it. Because that's how contemptuous he is regarding quality and park guests, whom he sees as stooges and hicks who must be squeezed for every dime they have, usually via ridiculous "upcharge" events that involve such "pluses" as commemorative cupcakes.

Speaking of foreign influence, the brilliance and magic of overseas parks such as Tokyo Disneyland and Disneysea prove what a Disney park can really be like when its designers and builders are willing to spend the money. Whereas in the States, budget cuts are applied to just about every new attraction, and new builds are frequently subpar in quality - look at the mess the new Toy Story Land is in Florida, with peeling paint all over the place. Iger won't spend the money to enhance the parks the way they should be, because he'd rather spend the money buying up every studio in Hollywood that has some sort of decent profitability, because risk and innovation are words Iger hates. It's all about the stockholders - people Walt had little interest in if they threatened to curtail his creativity. Iger, in contrast, has no idea what creativity is, except that it costs a lot and therefore he despises it. And he's stupid too. He built a whole land in Florida's AK revolving around the snoozefest Avatar films because that was his solution to the Potter lands in Universal. He has no taste or appreciation for the Disney legacy. He cares about the Disney "brand" (a description that Roy Disney Jr. despised - "Disney is not a brand!") in that it can be leveraged for profit across "platforms". A man that crass should be head of Wal-mart, not the (Walt) Disney Company.

PLUS he was going to destroy the flawless Twilight Zone Tower of Terror in WDW to stick idiot Marvel characters in it. That destruction was necessary because he bought Marvel and by God the characters were going to be injected like a virus into the parks come hell or high water. Thank god public outcry saved the Tower in Florida. Too bad about the loud hideous eyesore in Anaheim, which is a brazen and all-too-accurate visual testament to Iger's lack of taste and class. A fitting monument to a man who turned the caricature of the Disney company being an evil greedy corporate empire into a reality. Nice work, Bob!

I can't wait for that soulless cement-head to be shown the door. The only downside of that is that the toadies that will remain will likely pick someone worse. I think the Walt part of the Disney company is truly dead now. And I weep because everything Walt worked for has been discarded in favor of quick and easy profit. Iger sold the company's soul to enrich himself. And he's destroying the company's legacy not only of quality, but of values, demonstrated by his rehire of a man posing as a pedophile on Twitter (funny how Iger was disparaging Twitter the other day - how awful that those pesky Tweets from James Gunn came to light, eh?) despite what that did to Disney's legacy of family values and entertainment. He is a lowlife scumbag. I wish that every fate that happened to Disney villains would befall him. Because to me, he's a Disney villain in real life. And that's my take.

Amusing that Coke will have product placement in Star Wars Land at DHS. Also amusing that people get to walk from Star Tours ride, then left in to New York City pizza restaurants and downtown decor and Sesame Street, then back to Star Wars land.. What ?? I'm sorry.. I like flow , ya know ?

 

[olinecoach61]

who cares? seriously, i doubt many people on these boards are vacationing in st. barts off of the dividends of their disney stock. also, that's basically the point: iger is a great businessman for/subservient to wall street. it just so happens that eschewing quality to prop up profits is a strategy that was diametrically opposed to the company's standards, and also what made it the company many of us fell in love with in the first place.

As a stockholder I care.

 

[danyoung56]

Universe of Energy maybe saw 100 visitors a day prior to its closure.

Sorry, but I just can't let that stand. Every time I went on UofE there were perhaps 70 to 100 people in my showing. Did it draw small crowds? Yeah. But 100 a day? That's just silly hyperbole.

 

[Cado603]

Yeah, and then he tried to save his hinder from it but, the damage was already done...

I guess he also lies too. Expedition was Eisners too so he hated people loved it.

 

[SirWillow]

I get both sides of the debate. What Iger has done for the company as a whole has been very positive. What he's done for the parks, especially the US based ones- meh.

I did want to comment on one thing though:

I get that for many years, DL and WDW were more affordable than they are today. But I think a very good case would be made that they were very underpriced in those years and, if prices were comparable now, the parks would be completely overwhelmed and have regular phased closures.

I understand a lot of people seem to think this, but really it's nostalgia. The parks have never been cheap or "affordable." They've always been expensive, especially when compared to comparable locations. When you compare the price of a Disney vacation historically to average household incomes and what they spent on vacations and entertainment, it's always been on the upper edge price wise.

As a kid we saved for several years before we were able to make our first family trip to Disneyland. Then it was another 3 years of saving after that before we were able to go again. And that was in the late 70's and early 80's when it was supposedly cheap, with my parents both working and making a decent income and being a half day drive away. Honestly in a comparitive sense it's really not that much more now than it was in the past, and the small bump it has had has happened in the last 6 or 7 years as the crowds have gotten really bad. But it's still not that much of a difference overall.

Just wish that we could kill this idea that the parks used to be "affordable for the common family to come whenever they wanted to." No, they weren't. They never have been. And that's one of the major reasons why if you look at old video the parks are so much less crowded than they are now- because they cost a lot to go.

 

[gobstoper27]

Wow, where do I begin...?

I despise him because he's not just the flip side of Walt, he's in a despicable class of his own.

For instance, according to reliable insiders here, he tried to sell the Disney parks to a foreign country. Walt would deck him for that alone. The parks were Walt's pride and joy. To Iger they're a nuisance he'd rather not deal with.

His disdain for the parks is further illustrated by the fact that he's let a broken AA - the yeti figure in Expedition Everest - stay broken for literally years because he figures that park guests are too stupid to notice and dealing with it would cost money. Instead of fixing it, he put a strobe light on it. Because that's how contemptuous he is regarding quality and park guests, whom he sees as stooges and hicks who must be squeezed for every dime they have, usually via ridiculous "upcharge" events that involve such "pluses" as commemorative cupcakes.

Speaking of foreign influence, the brilliance and magic of overseas parks such as Tokyo Disneyland and Disneysea prove what a Disney park can really be like when its designers and builders are willing to spend the money. Whereas in the States, budget cuts are applied to just about every new attraction, and new builds are frequently subpar in quality - look at the mess the new Toy Story Land is in Florida, with peeling paint all over the place. Iger won't spend the money to enhance the parks the way they should be, because he'd rather spend the money buying up every studio in Hollywood that has some sort of decent profitability, because risk and innovation are words Iger hates. It's all about the stockholders - people Walt had little interest in if they threatened to curtail his creativity. Iger, in contrast, has no idea what creativity is, except that it costs a lot and therefore he despises it. And he's stupid too. He built a whole land in Florida's AK revolving around the snoozefest Avatar films because that was his solution to the Potter lands in Universal. He has no taste or appreciation for the Disney legacy. He cares about the Disney "brand" (a description that Roy Disney Jr. despised - "Disney is not a brand!") in that it can be leveraged for profit across "platforms". A man that crass should be head of Wal-mart, not the (Walt) Disney Company.

PLUS he was going to destroy the flawless Twilight Zone Tower of Terror in WDW to stick idiot Marvel characters in it. That destruction was necessary because he bought Marvel and by God the characters were going to be injected like a virus into the parks come hell or high water. Thank god public outcry saved the Tower in Florida. Too bad about the loud hideous eyesore in Anaheim, which is a brazen and all-too-accurate visual testament to Iger's lack of taste and class. A fitting monument to a man who turned the caricature of the Disney company being an evil greedy corporate empire into a reality. Nice work, Bob!

I can't wait for that soulless cement-head to be shown the door. The only downside of that is that the toadies that will remain will likely pick someone worse. I think the Walt part of the Disney company is truly dead now. And I weep because everything Walt worked for has been discarded in favor of quick and easy profit. Iger sold the company's soul to enrich himself. And he's destroying the company's legacy not only of quality, but of values, demonstrated by his rehire of a man posing as a pedophile on Twitter (funny how Iger was disparaging Twitter the other day - how awful that those pesky Tweets from James Gunn came to light, eh?) despite what that did to Disney's legacy of family values and entertainment. He is a lowlife scumbag. I wish that every fate that happened to Disney villains would befall him. Because to me, he's a Disney villain in real life. And that's my take.

I really enjoyed the colorful adjective choice used to describe Iger and the decisions he made. I don't necessarily have the same passionate feelings, only because I didn't get to experience Disneyworld when it was in it's prime (before the IP takeover) but this really put things into perspective for me. I have a basic knowledge of Disney history and I always thought Iger was the lesser of two evils (between Eisner) but now I'm not so sure.

 

[FCivish3]

Wow, where do I begin...?

I despise him because he's not just the flip side of Walt, he's in a despicable class of his own.

For instance, according to reliable insiders here, he tried to sell the Disney parks to a foreign country. Walt would deck him for that alone. The parks were Walt's pride and joy. To Iger they're a nuisance he'd rather not deal with.

His disdain for the parks is further illustrated by the fact that he's let a broken AA - the yeti figure in Expedition Everest - stay broken for literally years because he figures that park guests are too stupid to notice and dealing with it would cost money. Instead of fixing it, he put a strobe light on it. Because that's how contemptuous he is regarding quality and park guests, whom he sees as stooges and hicks who must be squeezed for every dime they have, usually via ridiculous "upcharge" events that involve such "pluses" as commemorative cupcakes.

Speaking of foreign influence, the brilliance and magic of overseas parks such as Tokyo Disneyland and Disneysea prove what a Disney park can really be like when its designers and builders are willing to spend the money. Whereas in the States, budget cuts are applied to just about every new attraction, and new builds are frequently subpar in quality - look at the mess the new Toy Story Land is in Florida, with peeling paint all over the place. Iger won't spend the money to enhance the parks the way they should be, because he'd rather spend the money buying up every studio in Hollywood that has some sort of decent profitability, because risk and innovation are words Iger hates. It's all about the stockholders - people Walt had little interest in if they threatened to curtail his creativity. Iger, in contrast, has no idea what creativity is, except that it costs a lot and therefore he despises it. And he's stupid too. He built a whole land in Florida's AK revolving around the snoozefest Avatar films because that was his solution to the Potter lands in Universal. He has no taste or appreciation for the Disney legacy. He cares about the Disney "brand" (a description that Roy Disney Jr. despised - "Disney is not a brand!") in that it can be leveraged for profit across "platforms". A man that crass should be head of Wal-mart, not the (Walt) Disney Company.

PLUS he was going to destroy the flawless Twilight Zone Tower of Terror in WDW to stick idiot Marvel characters in it. That destruction was necessary because he bought Marvel and by God the characters were going to be injected like a virus into the parks come hell or high water. Thank god public outcry saved the Tower in Florida. Too bad about the loud hideous eyesore in Anaheim, which is a brazen and all-too-accurate visual testament to Iger's lack of taste and class. A fitting monument to a man who turned the caricature of the Disney company being an evil greedy corporate empire into a reality. Nice work, Bob!

I can't wait for that soulless cement-head to be shown the door. The only downside of that is that the toadies that will remain will likely pick someone worse. I think the Walt part of the Disney company is truly dead now. And I weep because everything Walt worked for has been discarded in favor of quick and easy profit. Iger sold the company's soul to enrich himself. And he's destroying the company's legacy not only of quality, but of values, demonstrated by his rehire of a man posing as a pedophile on Twitter (funny how Iger was disparaging Twitter the other day - how awful that those pesky Tweets from James Gunn came to light, eh?) despite what that did to Disney's legacy of family values and entertainment. He is a lowlife scumbag. I wish that every fate that happened to Disney villains would befall him. Because to me, he's a Disney villain in real life. And that's my take.

This has to be the best post ever made on these forums.

He's a network hack who started out as an admittedly bad weatherman and who still thinks like a network hack.

Bob Iger thinks Disney is about the pursuit of money. It never was that, under Walt Disney. Under Walt, it was about the pursuit of imagination, bringing joy and happiness, and leading the world into a better future. Yes. THAT is what Walt Disney was all about, and his company was his expression of how to do that. Money was NEVER the prime motivating force. Money was simply a tool to be used, to achieve other goals. It was not the be all and end all of existence. Oh how far we have fallen, and Bob Iger, you are the loser who took us there.

I have no problem with money. Money is great. To me, money provides FREEDOM, and the ability to do what I want. I too use it as a tool. But I never am in love with the money itself. It never is the prime motivating force, by itself. And for all the people who say, "Well, THAT is how a company is. THAT is what money is. Any company that doesn't pursue profits above all is failing its stock holders," I say that, yep, many other companies ARE like that. Perhaps most of them. Some of them are great companies, if you want to invest in them. But there are, and always have been companies that had another purpose. Companies whose main purpose is not to just 'make money' but to achieve some other goal, often a social goal, to make the world a better place. Do you think Google has spent so many many millions of dollars driving its mapping vehicles up and down the roads of the world, in order to make money? Does Elon Musk have Tesla, just because he thinks it is a good way to make money? Or Space-X, or his Mars project?

These are just a few, minor examples. Thank god that there are still people in the world whose greatest desire is to make the world a better place. I just wish the Walt Disney Company could still be counted among them. Go home, Bob Iger, and no thanks.

 

[danheaton]

In regards to the old EPCOT Center attractions being empty near the end, I think we have to be careful with equating popularity with long lines. A few factors have changed things dramatically. First of all, attractions like Horizons, World of Motion, and others had huge hourly capacities. Compared to new attractions like 7DMT and Frozen, it's not even near the same amount. So while they definitely weren't as popular as the early days, those pavilions still had fans. Second, there was no FastPass, which also plays a huge role in messing with hourly capacities. Spaceship Earth now has long lines, and much of the reason is that so many pick it as a Tier 2 FastPass.

Attractions like World of Motion and Horizons could have used updates, but they were hardly just dead zones that no one liked. The approach of current management is to make shorter attractions that aren't continuous loaders (for the most part) and can't handle the demand. Part of that is due to the nature of the industry and the movement away from longer attractions overall. Even so, the issue is a lot more complicated than nostalgia vs. moving forward. There are ways for Disney to maintain a coherent theme at Epcot without just letting it stagnate. They just haven't gone that route and instead have created a mishmash in Future World.

 

[justintheharris]

Sorry, but I just can't let that stand. Every time I went on UofE there were perhaps 70 to 100 people in my showing. Did it draw small crowds? Yeah. But 100 a day? That's just silly hyperbole.

I don’t believe you.