Why Didn't Disney Build a Hawaiian Themed Hotel Instead?

EPCOTCenterLover

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Why is this new upcoming hotel look so much like the child of the Disneyland Hotel and Florida's Contemporary Resort? It should have instead taken Californians love of Tiki culture to a new level. A 50s inspired Hawaiian resort. Would have been a nice companion to the others. What a missed opportunity.
 

kkocka

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Why Didn't Disney Build a Hawaiian Themed Hotel Instead?
Because there's Aulani for an actual, culturally-authentic Hawaiian experience instead of Polynesian pop.

There is a love in California for Tiki culture? I lived here all my life and never encountered that except in someone cheesy backyard pool.
Really? Yeah, tiki as we know it was born in Los Angeles. Much of its former glory still exists, although it was once flourishing in nearly every city cross the country.
 

Phroobar

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Because there's Aulani for an actual, culturally-authentic Hawaiian experience instead of Polynesian pop.


Really? Yeah, tiki as we know it was born in Los Angeles. Much of its former glory still exists, although it was once flourishing in nearly every city cross the country.
The only reason tiki culture was big in the 50s because of the fascination with Hawaii becoming state. It didn't endure.
 

bluerhythym

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I really like that the new hotel seems to be a modern take on the Disneyland Hotel. We've been increasingly losing "Disneyland" as a brand, and this is a step back towards that. While there was nothing inherently "Disney" about the original DLH, it became an integral part of the DLR's identity. I think this new place can do the same.

After seeing Pixar Pier it would be easy to imagine them building a budget WDW style resort here, with big static characters and cheesily themed rooms, so I'm very happy with what we're getting.
 

kkocka

Active Member
The only reason tiki culture was big in the 50s because of the fascination with Hawaii becoming state. It didn't endure.

It lasted approximately from 1934-1970s, a pretty long run. It started to die in the 60s though the larger more popular venues lasted a bit longer.

The popularity of Trader Sam's is largely related to the revival of the tiki scene, not to mention well-crafted cocktails (also in revival) and some excellent staff who are aware of both and live the lifestyle outside of the work environment. The fact that it's all tied into the Enchanted Tiki Room and Adventureland as a whole puts it over the top. It's an excellent environment.
 

dweezil78

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That's because it's related to the Jungle Cruise.

I don't know if it really has to do with the Jungle Cruise connection (which probably flies over the heads of many visitors)... I think despite tiki culture not being a huge deal these days, there are plenty of tiki bars across California (and elsewhere in the US) that are still thriving and have big draws simply because they're kitschy and offer interesting, sugary drinks. Combining that with the interactive quality of Trader Sam's, and you've got a pretty great formula for success!
 

EPCOTCenterLover

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I think Poly West would be a great addition to the resort if/when they tear down the PPH? That being said, I doubt it ever happens. Kinda loses a bit of it's coolness if it's not on the water like in Orlando.
Bet they could come up with something very creative to give it some water. I'm thinking TDS here. Besides even though it looks great in WDW, you can't swim in the lagoon.
 

Phroobar

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Themed restaurants always do well if the food is decent. If they were smart they would put Jock Lindsey's Hanger Bar in Disneyland's Aladdin's Oasis. A nice Indiana Jones themed restaurant.

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kkocka

Active Member
Themed restaurants always do well if the food is decent. If they were smart they would put Jock Lindsey's Hanger Bar in Disneyland's Aladdin's Oasis.
Well, there is Tropical Hideaway coming soon enough, that sorta fits the bill. I agree with themed restaurants though and when the announcement of various Downtown Disney locations closing (particularly House of Blues) I had really hoped of something along the lines of Jock Lindsey's - something of that scale and quality would be very much loved here in Anaheim, but alas we get nothing of the sort.
 

ght

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I think Poly West would be a great addition to the resort if/when they tear down the PPH? That being said, I doubt it ever happens. Kinda loses a bit of it's coolness if it's not on the water like in Orlando.
I was going to post something similar to this. Part of what makes the Poly so great is not only being on the water but the openness of the grounds gives the feeling of being at a resort in Hawaii (sort of, but probably as close as you are going to get in central Florida). I think being crammed in the space they are putting this hotel would have less of a Hawaii feel and more of a cheesy island-themed restaurant. They can recreate that kind of lush feeling in a small area like Adventureland where things like sight lines can be controlled but I don't think there is the space to do it properly for something like a hotel.
 

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