Why are carnival rides disliked?

[Tim Lohr]

Taken literally, "carnival ride" usually implies something small enough and cheap enough that a traveling carnival could afford to buy the hardware and move it from place to place.

Technically, nothing at Disney World really fits that definition since even their flat spinners like Dumbo and Aladdin are permanent installations with concrete moats dug underneath them. Over at Disneyland, a lot of the stuff at A Bug's Land might qualify.

Maybe people are using "carnival ride" to imply a ride that has hardware that isn't hidden in a building a clashes so violently with the theming of the land that it's obvious that it shouldn't "exist" in that little fictional world.

I know nothing in Disney "technically" fits the description, I'm trying to figure out what the hell this thread is supposed to be about

 

[DManRightHere]

I know nothing in Disney "technically" fits the description, I'm trying to figure out what the hell this thread is supposed to be about

Read the first post.

 

[morningstar]

Wait...so if you imitate something, you become that something.

What's the difference in a rollercoaster themed to Everest and actually being in Nepal? A LOT

The same amount of difference in a theme park having a themed amusement park area and an actual amusement park.

Typically the imitation is less than or equal. So yeah maybe an imitation of an amusement park is even less good than an actual amusement park.

 

[Allym146]

Our local amusement park is $45.99 and it's dirty, depressing and the people there kind of scare me lol. Also, I am unable to ride 3 of the 5 coasters there. None of the coasters at Disney affect me that way.

If nothing else, while I'm enjoying my leisurely ride on a spinner at Disney, I'm looking around and seeing life, color and happiness.

Not that I'd complain if it was cheaper!!

 

[thomas998]

They do?

Then Disney has the right to soak them. That customer can't generate enough revenue in a day trip to make up for the enormous costs. It's a very common practice for many businesses. Spend more with us and we give you a better deal.

Disney isn't big and bad for doing this and they certainly aren't alone.

Are you daft? If Disney could pick any type of customer and have that customer type alone they would go for the ones that go for one day only. A park filled with one day only folks would be much more profitable than the multi-day customers.

 

[Andrew C]

Are you daft? If Disney could pick any type of customer and have that customer type alone they would go for the ones that go for one day only. A park filled with one day only folks would be much more profitable than the multi-day customers.

Says who? What about hotel, F&B, and merchandise revenue that multi day guests bring in? You should run those numbers for us.

 

[SMS55]

DIsney wasn't meant to be an amusement park or canival. Disney is a theme park. The rides were/ are supposed to tell a story.

 

[Goofyernmost]

DIsney wasn't meant to be an amusement park or canival. Disney is a theme park. The rides were/ are supposed to tell a story.

And they all do, to a varying degree. What story do the Tea Cups tell other then how many turns it takes to throw up. Or the Carousel or Dumbo that the same thing in DAK doesn't tell based on that theme. How about the Grand Prix or Space Mountain for that matter. Is that a story about how if you ride in the dark on a rough track your back will hurt. There are examples of that throughout WDW. Most of what I have listed (not all) are prime examples of basic carnival rides permanently bolted to the ground using themed ride distinction to make them different.

 

[Chef Mickey]

Are you daft? If Disney could pick any type of customer and have that customer type alone they would go for the ones that go for one day only. A park filled with one day only folks would be much more profitable than the multi-day customers.

Um, no for so many reasons. Plus, I told you they charge a lot to make up for you only staying one day bc there are fewer chances to make money off a 1 day guest. I never said the one day customers weren't profitable, but pretty sure they want you staying longer. You're clueless and we are done here.

 

[MrDee]

I watched a Disney documentary on Youtube about how they approached the designing of Disneyland. Basically, they thought of it like making a very good salad. They thought most parks (and carnivals, I suppose) were basically lettuce and tomato. Disney wanted, lettuce, tomato, garlic, pepper, dressing, etc.....

 

[thomas998]

Um, no for so many reasons. Plus, I told you they charge a lot to make up for you only staying one day bc there are fewer chances to make money off a 1 day guest. I never said the one day customers weren't profitable, but pretty sure they want you staying longer. You're clueless and we are done here.

There are only 24 hours in a day... The park is open the same number of hours for the customer that stays 1 day or 1 week. If you filled MK with the same number of customers on any given number of days there is no reason to expect the customers on a multi-day stay would spend more on any give day. In fact they would most likely spend less. A multi-day visitor isn't going to buy mouse ears every day they are there, so if the probability of a customer buying mouse ears is 10% then you would need only 10 days of single day customers to sell a pair of ears, while if you had multi-day visitors that each stayed 7 days you would need 70 days.... Which means in your multi-day scenario you sold one pair of ears in a 70 day period while my single day scenario sold 7 pairs. Then you need to look at the dinning... if you are there only one day you are more likely to do a nice expensive sit down meal than you are to do a nice expensive sit down meal every day for a 7 day trip... Simple logic would tell anyone that the most profitable customer isn't the one that stays the longest. The only caveat is that I'm assuming your one day stayer is still going to spend one night in the hotel.

 

[thomas998]

Says who? What about hotel, F&B, and merchandise revenue that multi day guests bring in? You should run those numbers for us.

You only have to assume that the one day visitor will also stay one day in the hotel either before or after the visit. Otherwise they should spend more in the park. Do you buy merchandise every day you are in the park when you are there for a week? Much more likely to buy merchandise on a single day... how many parents buy their kid a ballon everyday they are there? The parents that will buy a kid a balloon are going to buy him/her a balloon whether they are there for a day or a week, but are not likely to buy them one every single day of the week. So 7 parents that will buy balloons is worth more than one parent that will be there for 7 days and only buy a balloon once.