Which time period represents "peak" Disneyland to you?

Phroobar

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Interesting. When this question was asked a few years ago 1991 was my answer but today I’m not as sure. You visited Disneyland in the 60s and 70s right? How would you compare the atmosphere, crowds, and customer service from the mid 60s/70’s to the 80’s/ early 90s?
60's/70s was when I was a kid so the park was amazing. 80's/90s was when I was teenager. Disneyland was for little kids by then. In either time period, you didn't have adults without kids roaming the parks. It was a family atmosphere with dancing and rock shows. The Main Street windows where amazing because they previewed new Disney movies. The place was much more relaxed and lines where manageable because of ticket books.
 

Rich T

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Interesting. When this question was asked a few years ago 1991 was my answer but today I’m not as sure. You visited Disneyland in the 60s and 70s right? How would you compare the atmosphere, crowds, and customer service from the mid 60s/70’s to the 80’s/ early 90s?
Oh, I am soooo emotionally attached to 60’s/70’s era of DL. So many great family memories. I was just a kid in the 60’s, but I had an older brother who was an early Disney fan, and he shared everything he learned about the park operations with me, which in turn made DL even more fascinating. I can’t give an objective take on the park at that point—as I loved every bit of it—except to say that part of the magic of DL when I was a small kid was the fact that much of it WAS scary and intimidating. It gave the park so much depth and weight. That’s why I can’t stand Enchanted Wish. Kids need safe Scary Adventures to conquer.

In the 70’s, I was spending more time off on my own in the park (mornings and evenings with family, but not going back to the hotel with them in the afternoon— I was 8 AM to 1 AM nonstop every day! :D) and paying more attention to the workings and the details.

CMs in the 70’s: I’d say very comparable to today. Not a single bad memory. Wait… okay, one bad memory. But she was tired and I was being a smart-alec teen calling her out for lying to my face about why the Matterhorn line was closing early (there was a special event scheduled that—I guess—CM’s weren't allowed to discuss). I quickly backed down.. the look she gave me! 😃

Operations: Far superior in the 70’s, IMO. I don’t remember EVER seeing a nonfunctioning AA. That would’ve been unthinkable back then. And part of the park’s magic was that, except for the canoes, keelboats and island, everything ran full blast from opening to closing. This meant that you could head to the quiet areas of the park (mainly Frontierland, New Orleans Square and Bear Country), and sometimes nearly have the attractions to yourself. I rode Pirates late at night as the only passenger in the boat, and there was no one in the boat ahead of me or the boat following behind. It was great!

Disney, back then, seemed willing to spend the money on wages to keep everything available for every guest… even a 7th grader who loved being the only guest in the stretching room at midnight.

The one exception: the FL dark rides in that era didn’t seem to get all the TLC they deserved. I loved the dark rides and rode them a LOT in the 70’s, so I noticed when something was amiss. Sometimes an effect wouldn’t work, sometimes a pop-up character… wouldn’t. My pet peeve was when, for whatever reason, not enough time was allowed between vehicle dispatches, so you’d enter rooms and see effects resetting and crash doors closing, only to activate for you before even getting a chance to completely settle. Aargh. More than once, this completely ruined the screaming door hallway for me on Alice. What a strange specific childhood memory! 😄

Atmosphere: Similar but more relaxed. And people were in a better mood because prices were reasonable, crowds weren’t as crazy, and there was more live entertainment everywhere. At night though, much more varied in the best way: Peaceful relaxing strolls along the Frontierland riverbank, energetic pop music in TL, Big Bands at the Plaza Gardens… and an uncrowded, colorful Fantasyland.

I feel very, very fortunate that my family and I got to vacation at DL during those decades.
 
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Okee68

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Interesting. I posted my thoughts before reading your post. Seems like we’re on the same page. My issue with going with 84 is that if you bump it 5 years to 89 you get Star Tours and Splash. But then again crowds are likely increasing, less of Walt is being felt, TL is starting to lose it’s luster etc.
I know I'm outing myself as a bit of a psychopath by saying this, but I think Inner Space actually outdoes Star Tours, hence why I didn't move the date up to 1989 or some time in the early 1990s. Inner Space is a more interesting concept than Star Tours in my opinion (and is more relevant to Tomorrowland), and I'll take a dark ride with physical sets over a motion simulator any day of the week just because I think the former is more engaging and atmospheric.

Additionally, I'm a massive detractor of IP presence in the parks (aside from the native Disney properties, of course). Even in instances like the original Star Tours, where the implementation of an IP is exceptionally well done, I would still rather do without it simply on the grounds that it's taking up space that could have gone to an experience that's entirely original to the park (which in my opinion is inherently more immersive).
 
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Phroobar

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Star Tours was brought in at a time when Disney wasn't considered hip by the public. Disney wanted to appeal to the teenager market and bringing in the hottest IP really helped bring people to the park. That is reason we also got Videopolis. Teenagers needed a place to hang out and dance to music videos. Toon Town was brough in because of the success of the Disney Afternoon block on TV.

Having ridden the original Inner Space ride, there was a reason the ride didn't have a ticket. It was scientific, boring and psychedelic. It didn't really hit with the attitude of the 80s. Same can be said of Mission to Mars. NASA was more concerned with the space shuttle than going to Mars. The park needed something more thrilling. Space Mountain helped but more was needed.
 

Professortango1

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99. All the benefits of 95, but with the added benefit of TL 98 and Rocket Rods.

I know TL 98 wasn't popular as a whole, but I hated the dated TL prior to the refurb and HISTA was so much better than EO. Plus, the Carousel Theatre was occupied again and revolving with AA's inside.
 

Rich T

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…Having ridden the original Inner Space ride, there was a reason the ride didn't have a ticket. It was scientific, boring and psychedelic….
Excuuuuuuse me?!?!???? It was scientific, beautiful, imaginative, mind-expanding and had a fantastic narration by the great Paul Frees! Plus one of the best 1960’s-Disney-through-and-through theme songs ever!

Well, art certainly is subjective, right? This ride definitely was (and continues to be) somewhat divisive. 😃 But I’m in the camp that loved it to bits and rode it several times on each visit!

When it debuted, everyone got a free ticket for it in their ticket books because it was sponsored by Monsanto. Bell Telephone’s America the Beautiful was also free. As time went on, however, the ride’s high capacity led to the unfortunate side effect of “mischievous” kids and teens—once all their other tickets had been spent in the park—riding it over and over and causing damage. At that point, Adventure Thru Inner Space began requiring a C Ticket.

It was a ride of its time, and Star Tours was a worthy replacement. But to this day, I think Inner Space remains the best science fiction attraction (talking “hard science” science fiction as opposed to space fantasy) that has ever been created.
 

Phroobar

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Excuuuuuuse me?!?!???? It was scientific, beautiful, imaginative, mind-expanding and had a fantastic narration by the great Paul Frees! Plus one of the best 1960’s-Disney-through-and-through theme songs ever!
Not really to a eight year old. It was just weird.
 

Too Many Hats

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I'm a recent Los Angeles transplant, so what do I know.

1995 post-Indy/1930s-Anglo-Explorer-Adventureland-retheme certainly seems like a wonderful moment for the park.

I'm sure the 1980s were an anxiety-inducing but ultimately exciting period, with Eisner coming aboard and raising ticket prices while adding Videopolis, Captain EO, Star Tours, Splash, etc.

But man, I'd kill to take a DeLorean back to the late-1960s. Pirates and Haunted Mansion and New Orleans Square and 1967 Tomorrowland (Adventure Thru Inner Space!!) were brand new, Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland was still around, the Indian Village (yes I know it's problematic, but it'd be kind of fascinating to witness) and Tahitian Terrace (yes I know it's problematic, but it sounds fun) were there... It must've been such an exhilarating time. 1960s Imagineering will never be topped.
 

duncedoof

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I would second this, specifically the period between March and August, or after Indy opened and before the People Mover closed. You could say the arrangement of old and unspoiled classics like Pirates, Haunted Mansion, and the original Submarine Voyage, along with new classics like Star Tours, Splash, Fantasmic, and Indy, represents the pinnacle of the original Magic Kingdom. Almost everything, save for a few enhancements like the Fantasyland dark ride upgrades, that came afterward was a regression in some way, shape, or form: Tomorrowland 1998, Pirates alterations, it's a small world Disney character implementations, removal of the Country Bear Jamboree, the building of Galaxy's Edge instead of Discovery Bay, and yes, Splash Mountain's removal, I would consider Imagineering malpractice with regards to Walt's park.
I would kill to spend a day at that Disneyland.
 

SuddenStorm

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True. It was a good time. I just wouldn’t say it’s the pinnacle.

What's sad is that after Galaxy's Edge came and was met with indifference, it looked like Disneyland was going to be on the right track going into 2020.

Snow White was getting a promising overhaul.
Indy had an incredible renovation announced.

I remember being optimistic for the future of the park and then 2020 happened and everything took a 180.
 

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