Where is Disney's B&M?

danlb_2000

danlb_2000

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Probably because it's not a company they work with. Most of Disney's recent coasters are from Vekoma. It also looks like B&M does a lot of high-intensity coasters which are not Disney's thing.
 
danlb_2000

danlb_2000

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HunnyHunter said:
I still do not understand, B&M has definitly the most thrilling coasters. And Vekoma doesn't deliver a Flying or Wing Coaster. And to be honest, Disney could use one.
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Because pure thrill rides are not Disney's "thing". Disney tries to build rides that have a pretty wide appeal, high-thrill coasters have a much narrower demographic then Disney's other rides. To please the thrill seekers a park really needs to build the next most thrilling coaster every year or two. Places like Six Flags can afford to do this because they can just put up an off the shelf coaster quickly and easily where ever they want in the park. Disney is more about building rides that tell stories, have heavy amounts of theming and fit into the overall theme of the park where they are being built. There is no practical way for Disney to constantly offer more thrilling rides and still keep this level of theme and quality.
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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danlb_2000 said:
Because pure thrill rides are not Disney's "thing". Disney tries to build rides that have a pretty wide appeal, high-thrill coasters have a much narrower demographic then Disney's other rides. To please the thrill seekers a park really needs to build the next most thrilling coaster every year or two. Places like Six Flags can afford to do this because they can just put up an off the shelf coaster quickly and easily where ever they want in the park. Disney is more about building rides that tell stories, have heavy amounts of theming and fit into the overall theme of the park where they are being built. There is no practical way for Disney to constantly offer more thrilling rides and still keep this level of theme and quality.
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Well...there is a way they could do that...they just don't want to spend the money, and don't feel they have to.
And yeah... Disney is not really about big thrills..
with Big Thrills comes Big Risk...
Look at Mission Space when it first opened...
 
Jwhee

Jwhee

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Vekoma sucks. Coasters are way to bumpy. The only vekoma rides that ARENT roller skaters that I find good are the Rockin Roller Coaster, Everest, and rhino rally.
 
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xstech25

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Lack of B&M at Disney Parks has nothing to do with money - it's all about control. Disney will probably never buy a B&M coaster because B&M does not allow anyone but themselves to write the programming for their rides in order to protect their reputation (safety reasons). Disney has Walt Disney Imagineering write the programming for their rides and would want to be able to change it at any time without having to get approval from the manufacturer.

Plus B&M coasters are generally much more restrictive than what Disney is comfortable with. B&M has extremely strict rules on missing limbs, passenger weight, etc, whereas Disney likes to be accommodating to as many people as possible.

Also while Vekoma's are extremely rough Disney's are not rough at all thanks to very comprehensive maintenance. You can definitely tell the difference between a normal Vekoma and Disney Vekoma by how they ride. The only rough coasters Disney has that I can think of are Space Mountain at MK and Matterhorn which I believe are both made by Arrow (not sure about Space).
 
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James122

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Many Vekoma coasters do tend to be rough but they have proven that they can build a smooth coaster, as evidenced by Rock N' Roller Coaster and Everest. However, you won't ever catch me on one of their other 'hang-n'-bang" coasters!

Disney has also worked with Intamin (the makers of Top Thrill Dragster at Cedar Point and Kingda Ka at Six Flags Great Adventure) to build California Screamin' at DCA and Indiana Jones and The Temple of Peril at Disneyland Paris.
 
Bairstow

Bairstow

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xstech25 said:
Lack of B&M at Disney Parks has nothing to do with money - it's all about control. Disney will probably never buy a B&M coaster because B&M does not allow anyone but themselves to write the programming for their rides in order to protect their reputation (safety reasons). Disney has Walt Disney Imagineering write the programming for their rides and would want to be able to change it at any time without having to get approval from the manufacturer.

Plus B&M coasters are generally much more restrictive than what Disney is comfortable with. B&M has extremely strict rules on missing limbs, passenger weight, etc, whereas Disney likes to be accommodating to as many people as possible.

Also while Vekoma's are extremely rough Disney's are not rough at all thanks to very comprehensive maintenance. You can definitely tell the difference between a normal Vekoma and Disney Vekoma by how they ride. The only rough coasters Disney has that I can think of are Space Mountain at MK and Matterhorn which I believe are both made by Arrow (not sure about Space).
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Interesting info here.
I'd always thought B&M and Disney would make a good fit due to how reliable B&Ms tend to be.

One vendor I'd really like to see work with Disney in the future is Gerstlauer.
Their Eurofighter coaster family has proven to be an exceptionally versatile platform for blurring the coaster/dark ride divide, particularly with attractions like Mystery Mine and The Curse of Novgorod.

 

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