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Californian Elitist

Californian Elitist

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Goofyernmost said:
It is pretty awesome, if you are part of it, however, these are all friends that probably meet in the parks two or three times a week. It's not like you can just go up and link arms and start your solo career. You have to be part of the group to be part of the group. That part is not a pleasant feeling.

If you lived there and frequented the place, made it your meeting place as well, you would be part of the group, but, that takes time.
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I don't usually post in this thread, but this comment caught my attention.

This statement is quite false. There is no "group" at Disneyland in which only Disneyland veterans are allowed to participate in, and I know you meant this metaphorically. Yes, there is a cult-like fandom for Disneyland, and yes, I have linked arms with my friends and swayed to and fro to "Let's All Sing Like the Birdies Sing" in Tiki Room (a few times), but I and other Disneylanders do not stop "outsiders" and newbies from joining in on the fun. It is very easy to make friends with complete strangers at Disneyland. While waiting for PtN one day, I met a family from Texas and San Diego, whom my friend and I invited to share our bench with. To make a long story short, I now annually meet up with the couple's son at Disneyland for his birthday, along with his buddies from Texas, Georgia, and other parts of California. Another time, on the day of Disneyland's 60th birthday, my friends and I met a high school senior who had come to the park by himself from Pennsylvania to celebrate the milestone. He explained that he tended to visit WDW more often than the DLR because he lived east, but enjoyed Disneyland for multiple reasons. To make another long story short, we talked about our admiration for Walt Disney and Disneyland and since he was alone, we invited him to spend the rest of the day with us, which he accepted. We took photos together and we still keep in touch. My family and I once had dinner with someone we met while walking from Mickey and Friends to the trams, and we met him that same night.

The point is, it's not hard to fit in at Disneyland, if one is a fan of WDW. We may express our love for the parks differently than WDW fans, but when it comes down to it, we all love Disney and we all love the parks. It's easy to make friends at the parks and it certainly doesn't take too much time. Speaking on my personal experiences, it only take a few minutes. Haha.
 
NYwdwfan

NYwdwfan

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PUSH said:
The first matchup between GB and ATL in the Georgia Dome was an entertaining game. Add 30 more seconds to the clock, and I think the Packers would have won. If the Packers can't get it done against Dallas, my next team would be the Falcons, followed by the Chiefs. The Steelers are solidly in the middle, and the Patriots and Cowboys are a big debate as to who gets the bottom (sorry @Nemo14).
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Nobody here wants me pulling for their team #loser #jinx so I'll just say Go Chiefs and try not to even think who I'd really like to see win so the team still has a chance.
 
Nemo14

Nemo14

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PUSH said:
If the Packers can't get it done against Dallas, my next team would be the Falcons, followed by the Chiefs. The Steelers are solidly in the middle, and the Patriots and Cowboys are a big debate as to who gets the bottom (sorry @Nemo14).
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I agree actually. I'd love to see the Pats in the Superbowl again, but I'm not seeing that happen this year.
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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raven24 said:
I don't usually post in this thread, but this comment caught my attention.

This statement is quite false. There is no "group" at Disneyland in which only Disneyland veterans are allowed to participate in, and I know you meant this metaphorically. Yes, there is a cult-like fandom for Disneyland, and yes, I have linked arms with my friends and swayed to and fro to "Let's All Sing Like the Birdies Sing" in Tiki Room (a few times), but I and other Disneylanders do not stop "outsiders" and newbies from joining in on the fun. It is very easy to make friends with complete strangers at Disneyland. While waiting for PtN one day, I met a family from Texas and San Diego, whom my friend and I invited to share our bench with. To make a long story short, I now annually meet up with the couple's son at Disneyland for his birthday, along with his buddies from Texas, Georgia, and other parts of California. Another time, on the day of Disneyland's 60th birthday, my friends and I met a high school senior who had come to the park by himself from Pennsylvania to celebrate the milestone. He explained that he tended to visit WDW more often than the DLR because he lived east, but enjoyed Disneyland for multiple reasons. To make another long story short, we talked about our admiration for Walt Disney and Disneyland and since he was alone, we invited him to spend the rest of the day with us, which he accepted. We took photos together and we still keep in touch. My family and I once had dinner with someone we met while walking from Mickey and Friends to the trams, and we met him that same night.

The point is, it's not hard to fit in at Disneyland, if one is a fan of WDW. We may express our love for the parks differently than WDW fans, but when it comes down to it, we all love Disney and we all love the parks. It's easy to make friends at the parks and it certainly doesn't take too much time. Speaking on my personal experiences, it only take a few minutes. Haha.
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Quite false? Really? So then when the guy came over to me and said... "you need to move because our group wants to sit here together", what he actually was saying, in Disneyland talk was... "Hey, we noticed that you sat here where we usually sit together and we would love for you to join us if you like. We welcome all outsiders that we have never seen before in our lives". Man, I wish someone would have given me a book of translations before that happened, because then I wouldn't have felt so unwanted. Damn, how foolish of me to not catch the tone.

I'm not saying that all groups are that direct, but, do you really think that the mob mentality promotes the warm, fuzzy's from people that have never met any of them before. They all know each others names, they all have connected with whomever they sit next too, but, gee, I should look at that as an invitation to join in. I understand that friends bond and part of their enjoyment is in doing stuff together, that's human nature, but, this is a public park, not their own personal property were they can dictate seating locations because it's there right to do so. All they would have had to do was say to me... we have a group of friends here that are together and wonder if it would be possible for you to move over to another spot so we can sit together, if it's not to much trouble. I would have moved without a problem. It's a roundish room any spot would have been a good place, I had just happened to sit there, for no other reason then it was open at the time. If you guys cannot see what message you are sending to outsiders by your actions, I don't expect to educate you at this point, but, don't tell me or imply that it didn't happen. I was there, and it happened.
 
Eric1955

Eric1955

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raven24 said:
I don't usually post in this thread, but this comment caught my attention.

This statement is quite false. There is no "group" at Disneyland in which only Disneyland veterans are allowed to participate in, and I know you meant this metaphorically. Yes, there is a cult-like fandom for Disneyland, and yes, I have linked arms with my friends and swayed to and fro to "Let's All Sing Like the Birdies Sing" in Tiki Room (a few times), but I and other Disneylanders do not stop "outsiders" and newbies from joining in on the fun. It is very easy to make friends with complete strangers at Disneyland. While waiting for PtN one day, I met a family from Texas and San Diego, whom my friend and I invited to share our bench with. To make a long story short, I now annually meet up with the couple's son at Disneyland for his birthday, along with his buddies from Texas, Georgia, and other parts of California. Another time, on the day of Disneyland's 60th birthday, my friends and I met a high school senior who had come to the park by himself from Pennsylvania to celebrate the milestone. He explained that he tended to visit WDW more often than the DLR because he lived east, but enjoyed Disneyland for multiple reasons. To make another long story short, we talked about our admiration for Walt Disney and Disneyland and since he was alone, we invited him to spend the rest of the day with us, which he accepted. We took photos together and we still keep in touch. My family and I once had dinner with someone we met while walking from Mickey and Friends to the trams, and we met him that same night.

The point is, it's not hard to fit in at Disneyland, if one is a fan of WDW. We may express our love for the parks differently than WDW fans, but when it comes down to it, we all love Disney and we all love the parks. It's easy to make friends at the parks and it certainly doesn't take too much time. Speaking on my personal experiences, it only take a few minutes. Haha.
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Hey @raven24! I don't really post in the Disneyland forum because I don't feel like getting in the middle of the back and forth that goes on, but I just wanted to tell you I appreciate what you have to say there.
 
Californian Elitist

Californian Elitist

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Goofyernmost said:
Quite false? Really? So then when the guy came over to me and said... "you need to move because our group wants to sit here together", what he actually was saying, in Disneyland talk was... "Hey, we noticed that you sat here where we usually sit together and we would love for you to join us if you like. We welcome all outsiders that we have never seen before in our lives". Man, I wish someone would have given me a book of translations before that happened, because then I wouldn't have felt so unwanted. Damn, how foolish of me to not catch the tone.

I'm not saying that all groups are that direct, but, do you really think that the mob mentality promotes the warm, fuzzy's from people that have never met any of them before. They all know each others names, they all have connected with whomever they sit next too, but, gee, I should look at that as an invitation to join in. I understand that friends bond and part of their enjoyment is in doing stuff together, that's human nature, but, this is a public park, not their own personal property were they can dictate seating locations because it's there right to do so. All they would have had to do was say to me... we have a group of friends here that are together and wonder if it would be possible for you to move over to another spot so we can sit together, if it's not to much trouble. I would have moved without a problem. It's a roundish room any spot would have been a good place, I had just happened to sit there, for no other reason then it was open at the time. If you guys cannot see what message you are sending to outsiders by your actions, I don't expect to educate you at this point, but, don't tell me or imply that it didn't happen. I was there, and it happened.
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???

The comment I quoted from you mentioned nothing about people asking you to move your spot, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. In that case, that was very rude of them to ask you to get up, and I would never condone that.

You made broad strokes of generalizations about the Disneyland crowd in the comment I quoted, and yes, they're false. I'm not going to repeat what I said in my response. And mob mentality? You're exaggerating. The fellow from Pennsylvania my friends and I encountered at the 60th? Well, he came up to us, not the other way around. He wasn't afraid to come up to us for chat, and clearly he didn't get a "don't come near us" vibe. And he was 17.

You went once, 12 years ago. I gave you multiple examples of outsiders being welcomed in. But again, you went one time, during the 50th celebration, mind you, when the Disneyland hype for fans was supercharged. And you haven't bothered to return since, so I'm not going to waste my time, seeing as my response went through one ear and out the other.
 
Californian Elitist

Californian Elitist

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Eric1955 said:
Hey @raven24! I don't really post in the Disneyland forum because I don't feel like getting in the middle of the back and forth that goes on, but I just wanted to tell you I appreciate what you have to say there.
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Hi! Yes, you are smart to not jump in. You'd be sparing yourself some headaches haha.

In case you're interested in a meet-up the next time to visit Disneyland, stop by the forum. I know at least two of us would be down. :)
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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raven24 said:
???

The comment I quoted from you mentioned nothing about people asking you to move your spot, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. In that case, that was very rude of them to ask you to get up, and I would never condone that.

You made broad strokes of generalizations about the Disneyland crowd in the comment I quoted, and yes, they're false. I'm not going to repeat what I said in my response. And mob mentality? You're exaggerating. The fellow from Pennsylvania my friends and I encountered at the 60th? Well, he came up to us, not the other way around. He wasn't afraid to come up to us for chat, and clearly he didn't get a "don't come near us" vibe. And he was 17.

You went once, 12 years ago. I gave you multiple examples of outsiders being welcomed in. But again, you went one time, during the 50th celebration, mind you, when the Disneyland hype for fans was supercharged. And you haven't bothered to return since, so I'm not going to waste my time, seeing as my response went through one ear and out the other.
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Yes, I did make broad strokes based on actual experience and attitude that I saw, experienced or assumed. It doesn't matter, it was my experience and that singular experience that stuck with me over the last 12 years far and away above any other memory of the place. I did mention specifics a few posts later, sorry you missed that. I also said in my response to you that I think (or certainly hope) that isn't a prevalent manner that outsiders are treated, because it only takes one time for the memory and the subsequent judgments to linger on. If you have never done that, great, I obviously wasn't taking about you specifically, but, whether or not you were part of that particular situation does not mean it didn't happen or that it doesn't happen to others. Let me add that it didn't alter my opinion of DL itself, just some of the locals, not all. But, you know the old saying... a few bad apples!
 
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