Where in the World Isn't Bob Saget?

Lilofan

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Unless you work in mental health or have had PTSD yourself it's all conjecture on your part.
Yes that’s real world experiences in what I’ve seen and worked with ones with PTSD. Our work teams and family on different occasions banded together to get the person help with PTSD because we cared about them.
 

Mr Ferret 75

Thank you sir. You were an inspiration.
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Yes that’s real world experiences in what I’ve seen and worked with ones with PTSD. Our work teams and family on different occasions banded together to get the person help with PTSD because we cared about them.
For someone with so.much experience of every topic in the world you are showing a real lack of respect here.
 

Goofyernmost

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Take a chill pill and no need to overreact. My friend the Vietnam vet was a manager I reported to in my younger days. He did say I will never forget it that his biggest accomplishment is he survived his tour in Nam but a number of his buddies did not.
Sorry, but when someone says that a tour in Vietnam only was damaging if one was shot, was incorrect and not to be fluffed off as just a mental illness and not as painful as a physical wound. If a wound doesn't kill you, it will heal. Not so with PTSD.
 

Lilofan

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Sorry, but when someone says that a tour in Vietnam only was damaging if one was shot, was incorrect and not to be fluffed off as just a mental illness and not as painful as a physical wound. If a wound doesn't kill you, it will heal. Not so with PTSD.
Yes, PTSD won't heal as like a wound or injury that helps with physical therapy.
 

JenniferS

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Happy Tuesday everyone! To whom it applies, enjoy your short work week!

Today, I am assembling our picnic table; after which, there is almost nothing left to do but sit back and enjoy the rest of the summer here at the campsite.

Our improvised deck came out not too bad, all things considered. Nobody got stitches, nobody got divorced, and nobody said anything off the charts mean … at least not loud enough for the other to hear.

Where we started. A VERY blank slate.
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Drop off day. Dump it and run.
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When you buy recycled pallets, you get what you get. None of them square. None of them the same size. A couple of them not even the same height. And oh yeah, the ground has a very significant east to west slope.
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When all else fails. Tie it together with metal brackets and screws.
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And then hide your sins with a turf carpet.
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NYwdwfan

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Happy Tuesday everyone! To whom it applies, enjoy your short work week!

Today, I am assembling our picnic table; after which, there is almost nothing left to do but sit back and enjoy the rest of the summer here at the campsite.

Our improvised deck came out not too bad, all things considered. Nobody got stitches, nobody got divorced, and nobody said anything off the charts mean … at least not loud enough for the other to hear.

Where we started. A VERY blank slate.
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Drop off day. Dump it and run.
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Step One:
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When you buy recycled pallets, you get what you get. None of them square. None of them the same size. A couple of them not even the same height. And oh yeah, the ground has a very significant east to west slope.
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When all else fails. Tie it together with metal brackets and screws.
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And then hide your sins with a turf carpet.
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It's lovely! Daisy is so happy in her spot.
 

Songbird76

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PTSD is a huge issue in the military and for me to state that its a mental illness ( fact ) apparently set him off among other things . One former peer of mine at work served in Desert Storm came back with PTSD and got help after quitting his job, relatives of mine who served got the help they needed etc so I'm somewhat familiar on the subject.
I don't think it was you stating that it's a mental illness that upset him. You asked how it could be considered an actual injury, which implies that it's not as serious as a physical injury. As though it's not a real issue, but it is. My uncle came back from WWII with PTSD and he never talked about the war. He was actually shot, but recovered from that, whereas the mental injury never went away. He suffered for decades from that. It seemed like you were minimizing mental illness, and PTSD in particular, and I think that's what he found offensive. Yes, it's a mental illness. Everyone knows it's a mental illness. I'm not sure what you were trying to say if it wasn't that mental illnesses don't count as "real" injuries? I think that's what's unclear maybe, and comes across as insensitive.
 

Lilofan

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I don't think it was you stating that it's a mental illness that upset him. You asked how it could be considered an actual injury, which implies that it's not as serious as a physical injury. As though it's not a real issue, but it is. My uncle came back from WWII with PTSD and he never talked about the war. He was actually shot, but recovered from that, whereas the mental injury never went away. He suffered for decades from that. It seemed like you were minimizing mental illness, and PTSD in particular, and I think that's what he found offensive. Yes, it's a mental illness. Everyone knows it's a mental illness. I'm not sure what you were trying to say if it wasn't that mental illnesses don't count as "real" injuries? I think that's what's unclear maybe, and comes across as insensitive.
I never " minimized " as you say PTSD but that's pure conjecture on your part . Yes I agree I stated PTSD is a mental illness and he reacted after I stated a fact.
 

Songbird76

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I never " minimized " as you say PTSD but that's pure conjecture on your part . Yes I agree I stated PTSD is a mental illness and he reacted after I stated a fact.
You asked how a mental illness could be considered an actual injury....those were YOUR words. That is absolutely minimizing PTSD, because if you don't consider it to be an "actual" injury, then it must be fake or made up. And THAT is when he got mad. He even bolded that question in his reply to you, indicating that it was that to which he took offense. It had nothing to do with you stating it's a mental illness. I don't think there's anyone who would disagree about whether or not it's a mental illness. The problem is when you ask how it can be classified as an actual injury. That's extremely insensitive to anyone who has a mental illness, because it sounds like you are saying mental illnesses aren't "actually" problems, like if there's no visible wound, it doesn't exist. And you can argue all you want, but 3 different people from 3 different places have now told you that that's how it came across. Maybe you worded it poorly and that's not what you meant to say, but regardless of your intent, that's how it appears from other people's perspectives. I literally gasped out loud when I read it because I was so shocked by the insensitivity. I'm sorry to sound harsh, but it seems like you are defending the position that mental illnesses aren't real, and I HOPE that's not what you mean to say, so I just want to explain to you that that's what it seems you are saying.
 

Lilofan

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You asked how a mental illness could be considered an actual injury....those were YOUR words. That is absolutely minimizing PTSD, because if you don't consider it to be an "actual" injury, then it must be fake or made up. And THAT is when he got mad. He even bolded that question in his reply to you, indicating that it was that to which he took offense. It had nothing to do with you stating it's a mental illness. I don't think there's anyone who would disagree about whether or not it's a mental illness. The problem is when you ask how it can be classified as an actual injury. That's extremely insensitive to anyone who has a mental illness, because it sounds like you are saying mental illnesses aren't "actually" problems, like if there's no visible wound, it doesn't exist. And you can argue all you want, but 3 different people from 3 different places have now told you that that's how it came across. Maybe you worded it poorly and that's not what you meant to say, but regardless of your intent, that's how it appears from other people's perspectives. I literally gasped out loud when I read it because I was so shocked by the insensitivity. I'm sorry to sound harsh, but it seems like you are defending the position that mental illnesses aren't real, and I HOPE that's not what you mean to say, so I just want to explain to you that that's what it seems you are saying.
Wrong again. PTSD are problems and your conjecture of me thinking that illness is not real is wrong again. Those who have it and it's critical they get needed help which I and others have helped family and peers get the help they needed. One who was my manager sadly decided to find peace in his own terms.
 
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PUSH

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I was preparing a Kidz Bop Spotify playlist to use in my class the last few days. It turned into over an hour of finding songs from elementary, middle, and high school that I haven't heard in years. The playlist currently has 111 songs. My students are about to be cultured, but also annoyed by me jamming out the next few days.
 
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NYwdwfan

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I was preparing a Kidz Bop Spotify playlist to use in my class the last few days. It turned into over an hour of finding songs from elementary, middle, and high school that I haven't heard in years. The playlist currently has 111 songs. My students are about to be cultured, but also annoyed by me jamming out the next few days.
What are some of the songs?!
 

Songbird76

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Wrong again. PTSD are problems and your conjecture of me thinking that illness is not real is wrong again. Those who have it and it's critical they get needed help which I and others have helped family and peers get the help they needed. One who was my manager sadly decided to find peace in his own terms.
I'd urge you to go back and read this thread. You are saying I'm wrong about you thinking PTSD isn't a problem, and I'm glad that is the case. But I'm NOT wrong in how I read it. That IS how it comes across. Like I said, maybe that's not how you meant it, and I HOPE that's the case. But you can not deny that several people read it that way and not one person took your side. You have to at least entertain the idea that your wording was unclear. You are really defensive about how other people perceive it, and that's probably because you meant something other than what you wrote and don't understand why we called you out because you don't think you are wrong. And that is always frustrating when people misunderstand you, but go back and read and try to be objective. When everyone who reads it reads the same thing, and it's not what you meant to say, the problem is in your communication, not in everyone else's understanding. If you didn't mean it like that, just apologize and explain what you DID mean. "oh, I'm sorry it sounded like that. What I meant was...." goes a lot farther than doubling down and insisting everyone else is wrong. You were the one who brought up PTSD and @Goofyernmost actually agreed with you, that it is indeed included in the remembrance on Memorial Day as it is an effect of war on these Veterans who died. You then asked how that could be considered an actual injury. The war caused those deaths just as surely as it caused the physical injuries that lead to death. You maybe couldn't see the wounds on the outside, but if not for the war, they would still be alive. That's what we have trying to explain to you. With that, I'm done responding, because if you can't admit making even an honest mistake, or being unclear, I won't waste my time. I really do honestly hope that you truly do understand how serious PTSD is and that you don't think they should be excluded from remembrance on Memorial Day like it sounds, and I hope that you just aren't good at expressing what you actually mean.
 

Songbird76

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Pocketful of Sunshine
Accidentally in Love
Pon de Replay
Blue (Da Ba Dee)
Complicated
Bleeding Love
Irreplaceable
How to Save a Life
Girl Next Door

And many, many more.
Have you ever heard of Acapop kids? I just discovered them yesterday and they are amazing! I don't know if they've done any of the songs on your list, but it's a group of kids singing a capella, which is very challenging... It might be cool for your kids to see other kids doing something like that. The youngest girl I saw started in the group when she was only 9! They are all seriously talented!
 

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