Where in the World Isn't Bob Saget?

trr1

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MinnieM123

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Interesting fact: Okefenokee means "The Trembling Earth". But for me it meant, "My new favorite place ever."

It looks so pretty there. Thank you for sharing those picture--very relaxing on the eyes after coming home from work. :)

Many years ago, a (Native American) man I knew. worked in the same building as I did. He grew up down in that area. He often spoke about the Okefenokee, and how he and his brothers would wrestle gators, and it was fun. I told him he was a big fibber, but he stuck to his story! :D :joyfull:
 

MinnieM123

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Since the middle class is disappearing there is only room for very high end prestige stores and Walmart/Target.

Interesting perspective, and my first reaction was that you were spot on. Then, I thought about another angle to ponder.

Have people's tastes changed, in terms of retail preferences? It's not just the popularity of online purchasing options, but I think about newer generations -- younger families with tweens and teens -- and those kids (and some of their parents) far prefer targeted stores (i.e., Old Navy, Under Armour, etc.). Their impression of department stores like Macy's or Sears, is that those stores were their grandparents' stores, and they are turned off.
 

JenniferS

When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
Interesting perspective, and my first reaction was that you were spot on. Then, I thought about another angle to ponder.

Have people's tastes changed, in terms of retail preferences? It's not just the popularity of online purchasing options, but I think about newer generations -- younger families with tweens and teens -- and those kids (and some of their parents) far prefer targeted stores (i.e., Old Navy, Under Armour, etc.). Their impression of department stores like Macy's or Sears, is that those stores were their grandparents' stores, and they are turned off.
I went to Sears today, and I was most assuredly the youngest person there. :(

The thing is, Sears (and Macy’s and the BonTon et al) do sell trendy clothes, in addition to Grandma clothes.
 

PUSH

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I went to Sears today, and I was most assuredly the youngest person there. :(

The thing is, Sears (and Macy’s and the BonTon et al) do sell trendy clothes, in addition to Grandma clothes.
When I worked at Kmart, 80-90% of the customer base was 50 or 60+. A huge chunk were people who went to the pharmacy. We had some nice clothes and products, but the way things were run was the reason the store went under. And that's the reason for the reputation. ShopYourWay (which I'm not sure if they have in Canada) was a big reason Sears Holdings (what they call Sears and Kmart combined) went downhill. The program held up lines, and often gave customers things for free, when they hadn't really done anything to earn it. And we could rarely resolve an issue in store when points weren't showing up. They had to call (we couldn't call, because SYW needed to talk to the customer), or a manager needed to go in and override the system, which usually took 15 minutes to do.
 

JenniferS

When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
When I worked at Kmart, 80-90% of the customer base was 50 or 60+. A huge chunk were people who went to the pharmacy. We had some nice clothes and products, but the way things were run was the reason the store went under. And that's the reason for the reputation. ShopYourWay (which I'm not sure if they have in Canada) was a big reason Sears Holdings (what they call Sears and Kmart combined) went downhill. The program held up lines, and often gave customers things for free, when they hadn't really done anything to earn it. And we could rarely resolve an issue in store when points weren't showing up. They had to call (we couldn't call, because SYW needed to talk to the customer), or a manager needed to go in and override the system, which usually took 15 minutes to do.
No ShopYourWay here.

Ironically, our local store has been in the midst of a multi-million dollar renovation for months, so it shouldn’t look all that different once the Court approves liquidation tomorrow.

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JenniferS

When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
Pandora (Continued):
Thoughts on Pandora:

I really like this new land. I was a bit surprised at how much of the show building you can see from the front/ parking area, but that's really a petty gripe compared to how amazing it looks & feels inside the park..which is what counts. Yes this was a spontaneous trip. No I didn't use FP or book any rides in advance. Yes I was able to do both FOP & RJ this day. No I will not tell you how long I spent waiting in standby lines. Yes every second was worth it. I will say this much: After arriving at the park near opening, hitting FOP, RJ, and grabing a cold bottled water at Windtraders...I barely made it to the 2:00pm Festival Of The Lion King show. You do the math. ;)

Was pleasantly surprised with River Journey after a lot of the negative feedback I had read. Sure, it's no Pirates, but it still has it's charm. FOP was hands-down brilliant, though it did seem a little fuzzy to me (I tried looking with glasses on & off...to see if maybe it was just my glasses). But yeah, a tad fuzzy both ways. Thought it was just me at first, until I overhead a gentleman talking to his wife about how it seemed "fuzzy this time" as we were exiting the ride. Still fun though, and is now tied with EE for my favorite attractions of the park.
I seemed to like NRJ more than most people too.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. It’s funny how we both took pictures of the same things - not just the headliners, but some of the quirkier smaller details too.
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MinnieM123

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The castle crane was out, but not active this day.
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I see you, Christmas lights.
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Top priority for any visit to the MK. This was my most-ridden attraction of the trip (4x).
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Daddy killer! :mad:
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Either I'm imagining things, or it looks like the top spire is missing from the carousel. Possibly from Irma preparations earlier in the Fall (?)
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Had a great mini-trip. Did a lot in a short amount of time. Now bring on January!

I enjoyed your mini-trip. Your photos were great, too. (I peeked under the spoilers. :cool: )
 

Goofyernmost

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Interesting perspective, and my first reaction was that you were spot on. Then, I thought about another angle to ponder.

Have people's tastes changed, in terms of retail preferences? It's not just the popularity of online purchasing options, but I think about newer generations -- younger families with tweens and teens -- and those kids (and some of their parents) far prefer targeted stores (i.e., Old Navy, Under Armour, etc.). Their impression of department stores like Macy's or Sears, is that those stores were their grandparents' stores, and they are turned off.
True... the loss of the middle class is probably just one of the many reasons. However, they didn't really keep up with that declining class. They were always fairly good with pricing in the earlier days. (Well, except for Sears which had a reputation for and were caught at, the old bait and switch scam) Then they started to raise prices to match the high end stores and people decided that if they had to pay more anyway they would go for the prestige name.

They tried bait and switch on me twice that I recall. The first time was when they had a guitar on sale. I went in to buy one (in my early 20's) and they were out of the sale ones, but, they would be happy to sell me the next grade up. So I asked them to sell me the display since they no longer had any to sell. After much moaning and lying (telling me the case for that one was missing) they finally decided that they might as well sell it to me, went out back and brought back the case. I still have that guitar. A few years later an upright freezer. On sale, not in stock. Would have to be ordered and it would take three weeks to get, but, look at this model it has an adjustable thermostat and everything for just $100.00 more. I told them that any degree of freezing would be just fine and that I had been all my life without a freezer, I could survive three more weeks. They gave up again and took my order. (It was delivered two days later) Used it, problem free, for 28 years. It was still going strong when I sold my house, with the freezer in place just freezing away. Wouldn't surprise me if it was still chugging away. You couldn't kill those early Kenmore items. Sears had things built to their own quality spec. back then. Never had a bad Kenmore item.

But, I have deeply digressed. There were many reasons why they didn't last. To me the biggest was when the catalog stopped, but, the writing was on the wall. Catalogs were early and primitive websites. I would have thought that Sears could have made an on line catalog and slowly transitioned, but, they didn't. Without the Christmas Wishbook the season was lost. The Christmas season has always been make or break for any retail variety store. That season determine if they had a great year, a good year, a mediocre year or went broke. They just couldn't keep up.
 

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