Where does Tomorrowland go from here?

dweezil78

dweezil78

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Dr. Hans Reinhardt said:
The failure of that film to take off helps prove that it isn't a topic that has broad appeal today.
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Eh... I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that it was a pretty awful movie! It was a heavy handed message with nothing really in the movie to help inspire it. And this is coming from a guy who eagerly anticipated the movie from the moment it was announced and poured over ever detail leading up to the release! Watching Tomorrowland in the theater was a very similar experience to watching Phantom Menace. At some point early on, you just knew they messed this thing up badly and it got harder and harder to go along for the ride.
 
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Yeah, I see your point. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the film's insistence on staying aligned with Walt's Utopian ideals that form the basis of Tomorrowland contributed to the film's failure to attract an audience. Personal quibbles with the quality of the film aside, I question whether the idea of a Tomorrowland, a concept that is inherently flawed, can be executed (in film or in a theme park) in a way that would truly excite people today.
 
Curious Constance

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I think a lot of people today look far into the future and are glad they won't be around to see it. Take Global warming as just one example. In 100 years from now, I don't even want to know how bad off this planet will be.
 
dweezil78

dweezil78

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Curious Constance said:
Exactly! You don't want people being reminded of how doomed the planet is, lol. You want them happy and buying Mickey mouse plushes.
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I don't know... I think it's a great strategy for selling those pricey APs. It's like, Hey! We might all be dead in a few years when the sun swallows the earth. What's the point of saving that $$$ for more important things??
 
Phroobar

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Dr. Hans Reinhardt said:
Exactly. I had sort of hoped that the film Tomorrowland would be successful enough to reignite an interest in futurism and perhaps inspire a new vision for the land at DL and WDW. The failure of that film to take off helps prove that it isn't a topic that has broad appeal today.
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That is usually the case when the economy is down. Just like in the 70's when the economy was down, people thought about how to feed themselves and not about the future. It took Star Wars and Ronald Reagan and a up economy to make people think of the future and to innovate. Of course, that all got killed again in the 90s and the stock market crash.
 
Phroobar

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dweezil78 said:
I don't know... I think it's a great strategy for selling those pricey APs. It's like, Hey! We might all be dead in a few years when the sun swallows the earth. What's the point of saving that $$$ for more important things??
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Why is it the media must have something at all times that is going to kill us all? Terrorists, nuclear war, global warming/cooling, asteroids, solar flares, alien invasion, Clinton or Trump in the White House. In reality no of that is actually ever going to happen, so why not work towards a bright future by boosting the economy?
 
Curious Constance

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phruby said:
Why is it the media must have something at all times that is going to kill us all? Terrorists, nuclear war, global warming/cooling, asteroids, solar flares, alien invasion, Clinton or Trump in the White House. In reality no of that is actually ever going to happen, so why not work towards a bright future by boosting the economy?
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Please let's not go here. I'm trying to be good.
 
atsolomon

atsolomon

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Curious Constance said:
I think a lot of people today look far into the future and are glad they won't be around to see it. Take Global warming as just one example. In 100 years from now, I don't even want to know how bad off this planet will be.
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That's exactly why we need a Tomorrowland. Handling global warming is within our current technological capabilities -- let alone the breakthroughs that will occur. If you believe there isn't going to be a tomorrow, why take any actions to make tomorrow better than today? There's a wonderful Ray Bradbury short story called "The Toynbee Convector" that touches on this. With a lighter touch than the umm flawed film "Tomorrowland".
 
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I just don't see anyone going to DL to explore topics like climate change. I would enjoy it, but I think it would be more suitable for a Disney science museum experience outside of DL.
 
FerretAfros

FerretAfros

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Dr. Hans Reinhardt said:
I just don't see anyone going to DL to explore topics like climate change. I would enjoy it, but I think it would be more suitable for a Disney science museum experience outside of DL.
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For the record, climate change is the subject of a film in The Land at Epcot. The original film, Symbiosis, was updated in the mid-90's to include Timon and Pumbaa to help make it more interesting to guests. The helplessly self-unaware storyline revolves around the construction of a fictional vacation destination in undisturbed wilderness, which sounds suspiciously similar to how WDW came into being:

The film doesn't draw many guests, but it can be blamed on its awkward location (upstairs at The Land, while the main draws are all downstairs), dated presentation, and lack of anything to make it more than "just a film". It's currently closed for refurbishment, but is expected to return with no significant changes (digital projection perhaps)

That said, the wall carpet in the lobby is a national treasure, in all of it's 70's/80's glory!
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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How ironic that Disney preach about destroying the land while they did that to build Disney World. Also, that is the worst Mathew Broderick imitation I've ever heard.
 
Californian Elitist

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Endor Sightseer said:
In that same era, McDonald's was a sponsor of Animal Kingdom and there was even a restaurant inside the park.
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DCA as well:

And Burger Invasion in DCA has since been closed with no replacement ___.jpg
 

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