Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
The management has no tact across the board
They want to be apple so bad
“This is the price…cause it’s irresistible…”
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They want to be apple so bad
“This is the price…cause it’s irresistible…”
John park hopper
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Hey how about Bob volunteer and forgo his ridiculous salary and bonuses during these Disney financial hard times.
Disstevefan1
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This is perfectly fine by the volunteers and runners apparently.
runDisney Announces Policy Change: No complimentary park tickets for 2023 Wine and Dine volunteers
runDisney Announces Policy Change: No complimentary park tickets for 2023 Wine and Dine volunteerswww.wdwmagic.com
In keeping with the spirit of volunteerism, buy your own damn tickets to volunteer your time.
Oh, and thank you.
What is going on at WDW. Who ok'ed this nonsense?
Disney previously cut the tickets to half day tickets and when I voiced my opinion that I thought this was very bad thing to do to their volunteers, I got flamed.
Therefore, this time, I have no opinion.
Goofyernmost
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You don't have to enter the parks to attend or volunteer for the marathon. It was a nice perk and it is massively short sighted of Disney to do that (so what's new). I went and watched my sister do the marathon a few years back, had a lot of fun and never stepped foot into the parks. Wanna know why? Because after the marathon everyone headed for the parks and the added free entry for the volunteers and paying family and friends, caused massive crowds at the parks for that day. I can understand the mechanical reason for not doing it, but it sure seems like a poor marketing decision that really doesn't cost Disney anything to do. I don't know how it is figured but I will bet that there is a way to write off the cost of entry of the volunteers as a business expense, so an overall plus for them to let them in. They can see in increase in revenue from the families that had to pay for admission and I would guess that the volunteers will be spending some money on food and souvenirs. I agree that it might cause a bit of difficulty recruiting volunteers but that will be Disney's problem.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Goofyernmost
Well-Known Member
I'll probably get flamed too, but the difference between you and me is that I don't give a damn.
Disstevefan1
Well-Known Member
I don't care either, just a warning to others, thats all.
I think for a short time execs like Iger Chapek and fellow execs took 100,50,30% pay cuts during the peak of covid when thousands were furloughed and part of them were permanently laid off.
Volunteers like myself man the water stations on the WDW roadways support and cheer on the runners , clean up their vomit , trash , discarded wet clothing , clean up roadways so law enforcement can open up roads to vehicle traffic later in afternoon, other RN volunteers staff critical medical tent at finish line, volunteers at runners expo at ESPN, start line, finish line etc.
jloucks
Well-Known Member
As someone with a large staff and a large number of volunteers on top of that, I can share with you on good authority a little piece of wisdom...
You don't
on volunteers. There is no greater ROI when it comes to labor or advocacy. Volunteers are free walking advertisements for your brand.
The only time is if they are so toxic they are hurting your image or morale (includes embezzling). ...which given the nature of volunteering is exceedingly rare.
All that said, I am not sure this is the same thing? These volunteers are not doing it for Disney?
You don't
on volunteers. There is no greater ROI when it comes to labor or advocacy. Volunteers are free walking advertisements for your brand. The only time is if they are so toxic they are hurting your image or morale (includes embezzling). ...which given the nature of volunteering is exceedingly rare.
All that said, I am not sure this is the same thing? These volunteers are not doing it for Disney?
Cowboy Steve
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Not really sure why Disney would think free tickets are costing them anything. Does it push the occupancy of the park to a point they have to turn paying guests away? I mean, those volunteers are going to spend money in the park. I dunno... guess they figure eventually there will be enough turnover of volunteers that they won't know what they don't get anymore... lol
Disstevefan1
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Tha Realest
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This is as good as any explanation I’ve heard. The tax benefit/de minimis issue is another one, but I think that’s more of a problem for the volunteers than Disney?
Either way, it’s entirely in keeping with a growing tendency to take away nice benefits and experiences from guests in a way that feels petty and penny-pinching.
So even if we assume that RunDisney had to buy tickets and not buying tickets means saving expenses and showing growth for a business, the other side is that now parks are selling fewer tickets. It's all taxed revenue whether it's in increased park ticket sales or decreased Run Disney expenses, so it's just shifting chairs on the deck.
There's always going to be stuff we dont know so there's also the possibility that RunDisney purchased tickets at some discounted rate and Parks started charging more and maybe RunDisney feels it has some responsibility to not be raked over the coals. Or that's all hogwash. But it's at least plausible because the individual business groups are run separately enough that managers make business decisions to boost their own groups and management profiles without consideration to the larger Disney entity.
There's always going to be stuff we dont know so there's also the possibility that RunDisney purchased tickets at some discounted rate and Parks started charging more and maybe RunDisney feels it has some responsibility to not be raked over the coals. Or that's all hogwash. But it's at least plausible because the individual business groups are run separately enough that managers make business decisions to boost their own groups and management profiles without consideration to the larger Disney entity.
JIMINYCR
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DW and I volunteer many hours at a local hospital. To compensate for the hours put in we get a free lunch, coffee and soda. It comes no where close to compensate for the hours we put in. And the savings they get from not paying two staff members to do what we do is immense. We do it not for the free things but because we enjoy doing what we do and we are appreciated. Most volunteers give much more of themselves than they get and would continue to do so for perks or not. They do however want to be appreciated, valued, acknowledged and told what they do has made a difference.
Dis should realize that a ticket into the park doesnt compensate for the time and labor this crew of volunteers give to their event and taking this away will hurt them much more than the savings they hope to get from it going away. .
Dis should realize that a ticket into the park doesnt compensate for the time and labor this crew of volunteers give to their event and taking this away will hurt them much more than the savings they hope to get from it going away. .
ppete1975
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Thats as annoying as someone posting "when money is tight" instead of something related like "Run disney stops giving free tickets to volunteers"runDisney Announces Policy Change: No complimentary park tickets for 2023 Wine and Dine volunteers
runDisney Announces Policy Change: No complimentary park tickets for 2023 Wine and Dine volunteers
In keeping with the spirit of volunteerism, buy your own damn tickets to volunteer your time.
Oh, and thank you.
What is going on at WDW. Who ok'ed this nonsense?
I think they were genrerous before, I volunteer for a ton of races and get nothing but a sunburn and maybe a crappy tshirt. A ticket in the park and a Disney related shirt is more than any race I have ever seen.
There is the argument that they should pay everyone, but look at any of these events and most run almost completely on volunteers. I volunteered for 4 12 hour days for crossfit and got an event tshirt, a hoody and a sunburn. Talk about a place that should pay and not use volunteers. I didnt even get to see any of the events.
So while they used to be super generous, sounds like Disney is just copying its competitors at this point.
Please go Google tongue in cheek.....
Not all posts need to be titled literally what the thread is about.
Man, people literally whine about anything.
Curiosity anyone?
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ppete1975
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No.
Maybe you need to google clickbait.
This isn't youtube. Why make a title clickbait? The entire reason for a title, is for people to read what post they want. When you name it something nonsensical then people have to click on it, in case its something they do care about. If you make a half intelligent post title, then people know if they want to read it or not.
Not whining, wondering why people just want to see how many people click on their post.
Why does a post title need to spark curiosity? The subject, the original post and the intellectual conversation afterwards should spark curiosity.
If you read the article then my title makes perfect sense.
You just want to whine and complain about anyone who does something different than you?
I have met your type before.
I don't care who reads my post - just trying to be a little different.
You ok with that? - Of course you're not, you are a complainer.
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ppete1975
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You still haven't answered my question. Why make a title that has nothing to do with your post? Why not make a title that makes sense, is easy to read, and is clear on its intent. Thats how all forums work, there are outliers that think its cute to have clickbait titles. I simply pointed it out, and by your over reaction clearly you get triggered easily, and I feel bad for you. I dont have time for "people that want to be different, or do their own thing" so I will simply block all your posts. And I pray that you do the same for mine.
BTW you have never met anyone like me. And I rarely say anything negative on here, I pointed out your needless need for attention and you got your feelings hurt. This has nothing to do with Disney though at this point, so I am sure the moderator would love for this conversation to cease.