When do you think there will be a new park at WDW?

Padraig

Padraig

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ThatsWhat_UncleRemus_said said:
There isn't a need to add another park when there is so much available improvement/expansion to be had in the existing four. The next venture to me would be (and this may be unpopular) a world class casino/resort. One day gambling will be legalized in Florida and Disney will capitalize on it in a major way. I'm not saying I'm for the legalization of gambling here. I'm just looking at the potential of what Disney could do with it once its allowed. Disney has enough land to create their own mini strip
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Casinos are fine on the high seas but you won't find them on a Disney ship. It'd take a major turn around for Disney to embrace them. I (maybe) could see them opening up on a completely separate brand - think how they used Touchstone for more mature movies.

Brother in law is just back from Florida. His family spent almost 2 weeks in the Orlando area. He only visited Magic Kingdom and Epcot. He's a Universal man, but the fact that he flew 7,000kms and still couldn't be bothered with Animal Kingdom and Hollywood Studios tells its own story. I'd have to visit all four parks... but having said that we only spent four hours in HS last year. Disney do need to focus on what they already have.

In contrast to Disney; a poster on another site was arguing that had Comcast bought the rights to Star Wars, you'd see Universal moving almost immediately on a third gate. I agree.
 
Uncle Remus

Uncle Remus

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Padraig said:
Casinos are fine on the high seas but you won't find them on a Disney ship. It'd take a major turn around for Disney to embrace them. I (maybe) could see them opening up on a completely separate brand - think how they used Touchstone for more mature movies.

Brother in law is just back from Florida. His family spent almost 2 weeks in the Orlando area. He only visited Magic Kingdom and Epcot. He's a Universal man, but the fact that he flew 7,000kms and still couldn't be bothered with Animal Kingdom and Hollywood Studios tells its own story. I'd have to visit all four parks... but having said that we only spent four hours in HS last year. Disney do need to focus on what they already have.

In contrast to Disney; a poster on another site was arguing that had Comcast bought the rights to Star Wars, you'd see Universal moving almost immediately on a third gate. I agree.
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Im not saying I disagree but to play devils' advocate.....Cruise ships are a closed enviroment and you could detour families from going on one given the stigma that goes along with gambling. I for one wouldnt take my kids on a cruise featuring casinos because of the certain crowd it might attract.

Much like Pleasure Island back in the day Disney has shown that they are willing to market towards adults and adults only under their umbrella. A casino cruise could lose as much as it would gain with the potential loss of families. A Disney themed Casino resort would attract people who never wouldve thought about coming to Disney to begin with. Also like Pleasure Island, families could avoid the area altogether if they wished.

I 100 percent agree about how there is so much to be done at the existing parks to even consider expansion of any kind until that is handled.

I would also have to believe that if Universal purchased Star Wars I'd be strapped into a Millenium Falcon coaster within 2 years
 
WDWDad13

WDWDad13

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actually... here are my thoughts on this

Disney is starting to lose some people to other parks in the Orlando area... meaning when people go to "Disney" they are ALSO taking a day or 3 and going to Uni, SeaWorld, etc. ... Disney wants to keep everyone on property... this is obvious... so in order to do that, they need more to do and/or an incentive to stay (I know that sounds weird but hear me out)

What Disney needs to do is have a major refurb at EPCOT with some new attractions in place of Energy, JII, Soarin' update, maybe even a new ride in a county then move onto DHS where well, you know it needs a complete overhaul.... then DAK needs a new "land" and a few new must sees.

Once complete look into a 5th gate.

Each park needs to have at least one of the "oh I have to go see that" attractions...overhaul like Star Wars/Carsland at DHS would do that... Avartarland (not sure) or a World of Color type show would at DAK, EPCOT just needs a few updates of old attractions, and then we also can't leave out Disney Springs now that might be a full day adventure for some people once it's complete

So look at it this way as a possibility:
Magic Kingdom (1-2 days)
EPCOT (1 day)
DHS (1 day)
DAK (1 day)
Disney Springs (1 day?)
5th gate (1 day)
Total: 7 days

Waterparks are an optional 1 day (but with an extra ticket expense I didn't include that

then Disney needs to look at incentives to keep people on property... I'm not sure what to do here... but think about offering 1 free counter service meal per day per person (when staying on property) at each of the 5 parks/locations.

Ex. 1 day at MK, 1 day at EPCOT, 1 day at DHS, 1 day at DAK, 1 day at Disney Springs (could even throw in the water park to get people to do that as well).
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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ThatsWhat_UncleRemus_said said:
Im not saying I disagree but to play devils' advocate.....Cruise ships are a closed enviroment and you could detour families from going on one given the stigma that goes along with gambling. I for one wouldnt take my kids on a cruise featuring casinos because of the certain crowd it might attract.
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Yup...those blue haired old ladies playing those nickel slots are a tremendously bad influence on our youth.
 
Uncle Remus

Uncle Remus

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Goofyernmost said:
Yup...those blue haired old ladies playing those nickel slots are a tremendously bad influence on our youth.
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Im leaving for Vegas tomorrow morning. We go every year. I've been on casino cruises. We dont take the kids. Not because of elderly women. It's the 21st birthday idiots and frat boys who cant handle their "fun" that I was referring to. Has nothing to do with "influence". 5 year olds and bachelor parties dont mix. At least not in my world
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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ThatsWhat_UncleRemus_said said:
Im leaving for Vegas tomorrow morning. We go every year. I've been on casino cruises. We dont take the kids. Not because of elderly women. It's the 21st birthday idiots and frat boys who cant handle their "fun" that I was referring to. Has nothing to do with "influence". 5 year olds and bachelor parties dont mix. At least not in my world
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And it was a joke...sorry I didn't have the talent to make that clear. :oops:
 
Uncle Orville

Uncle Orville

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When I'm and imagineer (I hope) in 30 years or more I will design a new park that will be a Disney mixed park. it will have the most popular rides from all the Disney parks across the world.
 
Uncle Remus

Uncle Remus

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Goofyernmost said:
And it was a joke...sorry I didn't have the talent to make that clear. :oops:
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I didn't mean to come across as I was on the attack. My apologies if I did. I was just trying to be more specific. My post was pretty vague and could've been read as though I was painting gambling with a broad brush.
 
Victor Kelly

Victor Kelly

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If they did a thrill ride only park, I and many others would want to see attractions that have been taken away and replaced with thrill rides brought back. Like Horizons, World of Notion hint hint wink wink.
 
Wikkler

Wikkler

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ThatsWhat_UncleRemus_said said:
There isn't a need to add another park when there is so much available improvement/expansion to be had in the existing four. The next venture to me would be (and this may be unpopular) a world class casino/resort. One day gambling will be legalized in Florida and Disney will capitalize on it in a major way. I'm not saying I'm for the legalization of gambling here. I'm just looking at the potential of what Disney could do with it once its allowed. Disney has enough land to create their own mini strip
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Downtown Disney Disney Springs
 
jw24

jw24

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Disney needs to repair their own parks first before they can build a new theme park. So I'm not expecting any new parks anytime soon.
 
wogwog

wogwog

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New gate no. Those saying much work needs to be done on the current parks are sadly correct. Strange math going on at Disney. $3 billion and growing on all the My Magic Minus (some still cling to the name My Magic +) junk and it is not yet ready for debut. WDW need s a lot of you to really by the extras for the new bands to wear to pay for the program. Friends working at WDW say they are getting new training every few weeks on "upgrades" or if you prefer "fixes" to MMM. Sometimes the next change comes out before they even have the complete cast trained on the previous change. The rumored budget for the Studios fix is not even one third of the MMM $3 billion price tag.

Disney just sold some WDW land to Four Seasons hotels. Sold a golf course recently and the remaing courses are outsourced now to Arnold Palmer to operate. That doe not sound like expansion.

WDW just decided a great upgrade to the MK is to rip out sections of sidewalks on Main St USA and build new ones flush with the street. How many are excited about that new addition on your next visit?
 
ajrwdwgirl

ajrwdwgirl

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In theory a new park sound cool and thrilling but Disney really needs to spruce up some of their existing parks. Ak needs more attractions, sorry I still think this is a 1/2 day park. Epcot, love it dearly but World Showcase hasn't had a new country since when the late 1980's? And Immagination needs a redo, and the Wonders of Life area is dead. Also when most people like me go to Universe of Energy because it is a nice long nap, it probably needs an update too. Of course the Studios is in need of something new too. After wasting all that money on the magic + stuff they need to put some investments into attractions of current parks.
 

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