When do you think there will be a new park at WDW?

cyanaye

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Original Poster
I'm not talking an expansion, I'm talking a whole new park! AK was the last one to open, 15 years ago, with DHS opening about 10 years before that. Do you think there will be a new park in the near future, (not exactly being built, but announced) and what would you want from it (themes, types of rides, etc) ?

EDIT: a lot of you are saying they need to make improvements to the current parks. What do you think they should do to each?
 

Master Yoda

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I just do not see anything outside of a boutique park opening at WDW in my lifetime and even that is a long shot.
 

disney4life2008

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Honestly, I do not see this happening in the next 10/15 years. While WDW is still able to attract millions of people to its resort - the great masses are still only going to the Magic Kingdom (or making 2/3 day trips and going to 1 other park).

Lets be honest here - Hollywood Studios is a mess right now. And its stuck in the 90s. I give credit to the rumurs of a huge rebuild of HS in the near future but nothing has been confirmed. I would expect lots of money will be put in this.

Animal Kingdom is not a mess but there is not enough there to equate spending $90 on a single day ticket. Avatarland has been announced forever and nothing has come of it.

And lots of money is being put into Disney Springs. So I think they will use what revenues they have and make the parks better.

If there is to be a new park - I have no idea what kind of theme it could be???
 

PUSH

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Even if they started construction today, it'd take them 20 years to build the park. It takes them over a year to build a meet and greet, imagine a whole park.

I don't think it will happen for a long time, if ever. Something would seriously have to go wrong in order for Disney to even consider it.
 

Zman-ks

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About the 12th of never, would be my guess.
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Unfortunetly...this.
 

Master Yoda

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Even if they started construction today, it'd take them 20 years to build the park. It takes them over a year to build a meet and greet, imagine a whole park.

I don't think it will happen for a long time, if ever. Something would seriously have to go wrong in order for Disney to even consider it.

Epcot, DHS and AK were all built in around 3 years, Mk came in near 4. If they were to build another park I have no doubt that the 3-4 year time frame would hold.
 

PUSH

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Epcot, DHS and AK were all built in around 3 years, Mk came in near 4. If they were to build another park I have no doubt that the 3-4 year time frame would hold.

I know, but it's just hard to imagine the current Disney building something so quickly when they take forever to build minor things now. But I guess a new park itself would draw immediate money from ticket sales whereas a meet and greet isn't necessarily making any money right away.
 

Master Yoda

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I know, but it's just hard to imagine the current Disney building something so quickly when they take forever to build minor things now. But I guess a new park itself would draw immediate money from ticket sales whereas a meet and greet isn't necessarily making any money right away.

That is pretty much it. When it comes to the books, a park expansion spread over multiple quarters has a lower impact on the bottom line especially since Disney is not financing any of the construction costs. When it comes to a new park, that sucker needs to start collecting admission ASAP.
 

Disney_Dad88

Active Member
It seems that even for people who spend a couple of weeks there, there is still too much to do. With everything Disney has to offer, I think they benefit more from doing things to the parks they already have and other things around the world than building a whole new park. Definitley worth a good discussion though.
 

STITCHGEFAN

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I'm a believer that it will be between 2035-2040. There will come a time when technology grows too quick for Disney to maintain the four parks. They will all become stale and WDW will need a new state-of-the-art park to pull in the customers and slowly rebuild the other 4.

In regards to what I would like to see, I really, really don't know. I don't want Marvel in honesty. Maybe a 'cooler' park. A retro area, villains area, Kingdom Hearts etc, based more on larger rides. That, would be EPIC.
 

wdwfan4ver

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Never.

I am saying that because adding another park wouldn't increase the attendance of WDW a lot. All it would do is decrease the attendance of the existing parks by all 5 parks fighting for the same visitors.

The other problem is take a look at how many theme parks in Orlando or in that area right now. Once Universal adds a 3rd park in Florida, the market can't handle anymore theme parks in the Orlando area.
 

cheezbat

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I'll put it this way: if WDW doesn't get moving on some major additions and improvements in its 4 current parks, Universal is going to give them a kick in the pants when they open their third gate...

In which case I see WDW scrambling to find a way to excite the masses again...possibly by adding the long wished for fifth gate. I give it 25 years.
 

Spikerdink

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Never.

I am saying that because adding another park wouldn't increase the attendance of WDW a lot. All it would do is decrease the attendance of the existing parks by all 5 parks fighting for the same visitors.

The other problem is take a look at home many theme parks in Orlando or in that area right now. Once Universal adds a 3rd park in Florida, the market can't handle anymore theme parks in the Orlando area.

^^^^^ This.

I don't remember where I saw it, but research was done (or maybe it was Disney data) that pretty much eliminates the idea of a 5th gate. Here's what it boils down to: Disney has done everything it can to keep tourist dollars on site. The Magical Express, Dining Plans were concepts that locked visitors, and thier wallets, to Disney property.

When MK was a stand alone park, people stayed for X amount of days. When they opened Epcot, it became X + Y days. Then came (then) MGM and AK. The idea was that with the 4 parks, people would stay even longer and Disney would capture even more money from tourists. But when MGM and AK opened, there was no increase in length of stays by visitors. IF [and that is a big if] Disney brainstormed a 5th gate, they would need to be convinced beyond any reasonable doubt that they by spending the billions of dollars they would increase visitor stays. If not, they are just cannibalizing their own product.

What is happening now is that Sea World, USO are both peeling off days from Disney. People come for seven days and spend 2 at MK, 2 at Epcot, 1 day at HS and AK combined and then spend one or two days at SW or USO. Or, they cut back on E/HS/AK and increase thier time at the other major attractions. Disney can, and will, put a boatload of money into improving the offerings at HS and AK over the next five to ten years to try to steal some of this traffic back. But to do that they need to dream big, think bigger, and open the corporate vault wide. They have no problem dreaming, and thinking....but the money part kills them.

There has to be a cost/benefit for Disney to OK the expansion. If the powers that be don't see a return (Ie people staying on site and spending time and money in their parks for a significant amount of time) then the plans will be scaled back. Scaled back plans will allow them to say we are bringing new excitement to the parks and to some people it will be enough to check out. To those of us here, we may react like the bride who married the village eunuch on her wedding night. It's just like NFL - some people were excited....some of us here said, "that's it"....but it did what it needed to do in that it got Disney some press, it allowed them to promote the 'newness' and use it in marketing. It's no Harry Potter by any means....but I don't know if Disney wants to go that 'big' right now.

If everything we hear about HS and Avatar in AK are true - then Potter will be big and Disney will be bigger. It just comes down to: "We can spend 3 billion dollars on this expansion at Hollywood studios and Animal Kingdom, but will we ever see a return on this investment?" If they decide that USO is bleeding thier customers by a decent percentage (and wanna wager that Disney has people at the airport looking to see how many people are going home with kids brandishing wands, butterbeer flasks, stuffed Hedwigs rather than bags bursting with Mickey and Minnie?) then the redo of HS will be mind boggling.

But a 5th gate? It won't pass the cost/benefit analysis and won't happen
 

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