What's the dilly-o with Peter Pan's Flight & 7 Dwarfs MT?

[thomas998]

Hence why I said it needs a complete overhaul to ramp up the complete system. The current boats are rather big. Take out the sail (which blocks your view anyway) and figure in a second row and it would work. The vehicles would travel the same speed but load 4 to 6 passengers at a time rather than 2 or 3 guests at a time.

I don't think you can eliminate the sail without damaging the aesthetics of the ride.... Then again simply removing the sail might damage the aesthetics enough you wouldn't have crowding problems anymore.

 

[MrHappy]

I don't think you can eliminate the sail without damaging the aesthetics of the ride.... Then again simply removing the sail might damage the aesthetics enough you wouldn't have crowding problems anymore.

Flying row boats, no. But flying Bucky's, I think we got something. Not to force Jake too much, but wouldn't it give a nice nod to Jake if the flying ships were bigger and "resembled" Bucky - I know my boy would get it!

 

[DisneyJeff]

I've only ever done the mine train once and that was near closing when they were done accepting fastpasses. Naturally the line moved much faster so it wasn't that long. However, this was the first Disney ride or ride in general that I can remember where they asked us how many and we then had to wait in another long queue. I thought we were about to get on but I was wrong. It was a nice little ride though. I tried riding again this past trip but the line was already long a few minutes after the park opened and I wasn't about to stand in line for it. But hopefully next week I'll get to do it again during the day.

And Peter Pan is just a classic attraction that's why the line is as long as it is. That and also because the capacity is low, but it's still a nice little ride, despite the fact it needs a good refurbishment.

I've never understood the philosophy behind splitting the line by group size (as they do on SDMT). Can someone explain how this is supposed to work? Is it odd/even number groups?

 

[francism]

Peter Pan's Flight is not only popular because it's a classic, it's also a ride my Mom is able to do with her granddaughter (who is 3). My Mom still does well getting around the parks but she's not up for some of the more 'thrilling' attractions (7DMT, SM, SpM, BTMRR would be on that list). Then again, I'm not sure how the 3 year old will do with some of the more 'thrilling' attractions until we go again. Wait and see I guess but the overlap between the age groups has to make it more popular.

As for the 7DMT, it's one of those rides that is thrilling for the younger crowd that may not be ready for something like Space Mountain quite yet and is also popular because it's such a new attraction. Every time I've exited the ride, I can always hear at least one young kid jumping up and down pleading with their parents to do the ride again. I cringe when I hear it because I know that the wait times don't really allow for it at any point during the day. People may complain that the ride is short but it's always seemed to me to be a hit as a 'family coaster'.

Also, the reasoning behind even/odd groups at SDMT is that they will take odd groups and make people who don't know each other sit together to fill all of the available space on the ride. Each seat is taken up this way and more people can ride per hour.

 

[disneygeek90]

I honestly don't think either are worth a FP or the long wait. 7DMT is too short, imo, and PPF is cute but nowhere near the wait it garners. I usually can hop on PPF in under 5 mins when the park is open past midnight, and all the kids leave the park. Recently did it as my last ride when the park was open till 1am. Got in line at about 12:50 and basically got right on.

 

[Princess Kaylee]

Are the wait times incredible for these two in particular because they're just super fantastic rides, are they the preferred rides for the junior set, or what? We're making our first trip to WDW, and I'm not sure if we should be getting FP+ for these. It'll just be me and DH this particular trip. Are these rides that two forty-somethings might enjoy?

Seven Dwarves Mine Train is still pretty new so everybody wants to ride it. Peter Pan is a classic Disney ride, it will always have long lines. I also get FP for both of them.

 

[thomas998]

Flying row boats, no. But flying Bucky's, I think we got something. Not to force Jake too much, but wouldn't it give a nice nod to Jake if the flying ships were bigger and "resembled" Bucky - I know my boy would get it!

Don't think most would get it. WDW caters to lots of foreign visitors, they are more likely to have seen Peter Pan than Jake and the Neverland PIrates.

 

[MickeyMomV]

I've never understood the philosophy behind splitting the line by group size (as they do on SDMT). Can someone explain how this is supposed to work? Is it odd/even number groups?

I think it has to do with ride photos and videos. Most of the rides do photo's of individual cars. So if you have a group of more than 3 or 4 your going to be on separate photos no matter what. On 7DMTR they have the ability to group cars together for the photos so if you have a group of 5 or more they may try to keep you in the same set of "cars" to make sure you are all in one photo/video.

 

[graphite1326]

Ahh..However, There is a ride that does it much better and a few miles down the road...But, with bikes..

I had to laugh when I rode this. They ask your name as you enter. I couldn't figure out why until we got off and then someone says bye (your name), I thought that was the so corny. Peter Pan a much better ride.

 

[Worldlover71]

Have to agree, for me there is no comparison between Peter and ET. ET is ok but odd, Peter is traveling into a fantasy world.

 

[mimitchi33]

Ahh..However, There is a ride that does it much better and a few miles down the road...But, with bikes..

And...it has shorter wait times. (I just saw the wait time there, and found it ironic.)

I had to laugh when I rode this. They ask your name as you enter. I couldn't figure out why until we got off and then someone says bye (your name), I thought that was the so corny. Peter Pan a much better ride.

They didn't do that the last time I went.

I think it has to do with ride photos and videos. Most of the rides do photo's of individual cars. So if you have a group of more than 3 or 4 your going to be on separate photos no matter what. On 7DMTR they have the ability to group cars together for the photos so if you have a group of 5 or more they may try to keep you in the same set of "cars" to make sure you are all in one photo/video.

That sounds interesting.

 

[Nastory4]

Those two rides are definitely worth getting a FP for. Peter Pan is just a classic ride that is a must-see for everyone in the park. The wait times are always AT LEAST an hour. That would be short compared to how I have seen it. Even on days where the park is typically considered "less crowded", the wait time is still long. The same goes for 7DMT. This ride is popular because it is a roller coaster (and there aren't many in MK), and it is the newest attraction. Even as an adult, I love both of them.

Agreed. With today's technology, it's nice to see yesterday's technology.

 

[Ali Mouse]

Last time we went we did Peter Pan at rope drop---because we wanted to walk through the new line queue---and I think you miss it if you have a fast pass. (We liked the queue, btw) We had a fast pass for the Mine Train. My husband, daughter, and I LOVED both attractions. You will too, if you are a kid at heart.

That is our plan as well. I just booked fast passes and I did not get one due to wanting to see the new ride que. Hopefully it all works out! Was it a long wait at rope drop?

 

[Darth Figment]

Get there during magic hrs rope drop, ride them both fastpass something else that you would like to ride .

 

[PinnySmart]

Are the wait times incredible for these two in particular because they're just super fantastic rides, are they the preferred rides for the junior set, or what? We're making our first trip to WDW, and I'm not sure if we should be getting FP+ for these. It'll just be me and DH this particular trip. Are these rides that two forty-somethings might enjoy?

For visitors of your age the fp+ choices you should absolutely choose are Hall of Presidents, carousel of progress and the people mover.

 

[Tavernacle12]

I think part of the appeal for both is that they're just good enough and just appealing enough IP-wise that most people entering the park will want to do them at some point. Some people may not like the mountains or not be into Mansion or Pirates or think Jungle Cruise is stupid but I'd wager most people entering those gates have at least some fondness for Peter Pan and Snow White. Add interesting ride systems, the fact Pan doesn't have the capacity it probably should and Mine Train is the new ride everyone visiting for the first time in awhile, and that's why they have such big lines. It's somewhat similar to Toy Story Mania, it appeals to the largest amount of people.

Personally I like Pan more than Mine Train, but I don't think either are worth more than an 30 minute wait. I usually get at least one FP for Mine Train per trip, and use late night EMH to ride Pan.

 

[danyoung]

For visitors of your age the fp+ choices you should absolutely choose are Hall of Presidents, carousel of progress and the people mover.

Huh? Unless I missed a joke somewhere, this is just stunningly bad advice. These three attractions NEVER have a long line, and can be seen without FP+'s any time of day.

 

[seabreezept813]

If you have a soft spot for the film, then PPF is pure magic. The mine train is fun, short but fun.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

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[Noellikechristmas]

It's kind of funny, I've been to Disney 5 times in the past 6 years and I've only been on the peter pan ride once. The time I went on it, I was going with all my in-laws and I had made a fastpass to go on it. Well I thought it was a cool ride, my sister in law got off and was like "people wait 2 hours to go on this?" haha I liked it and I knew it was a Disney original, so I appreciated it.